Seadweller 43 is a mixed bag

[Malum]

Never let go .

[JRedford]

I was unaware that gratuitous trolling was allowed.

[interestedinwatches]

Originally Posted by JRedford

I was unaware that gratuitous trolling was allowed.

What? Why am I trolling?

Watches get criticized all the time on this website.

Because SD43 owners are butthurt about it, I'm trolling?

[SDGT3]

If anyone who like to take some action on this thread, I'm placing the over/under at 10 pages. Minimum bets apply.

[2loaded]

Originally Posted by garyk

Do ferraris come with the big gold chains for the owners or is that an acquired habit?

They used to. Now the gold is funneled into Ukraine who now has over 3,000 Tons, yet they have very little active mines..? Ferrari owners wouldn't dare take from the war bond.

"Bless Ukraine"

[2loaded]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

If anyone who like to take some action on this thread, I'm placing the over/under at 10 pages. Minimum bets apply.

I'm in. What's the post count penalty ?

[Toproll85]

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

I'm not going to reply

Interesting way to discuss.
As it has been said before, you dismiss anything that goes against your opinion and don't bother to open your mind to other testimonies, in superiority and against your point of view here. You just repeat it, and that's it, your truth is the truth.

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

you were so offended by my opinion

Your opinion touches me one without moving the other, I assure you. I am having fun with a person who created a topic to understand why the bottom of a 4000ft waterproof watch must be more resistant and thicker than another, and who would like Rolex to direct its excellence in the field for its selfish aesthetic preference .

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

This is the vocal minority fallacy.

It's cause it's big and ridiculously thick to most people.

You who like so much the error of logic, know that this proportion of people intervening is unknown to you.
For the rest, there are 7.7 billion individuals and you still don't know, it's pure fabrication to join your opinion.

Yet another fact, the entire Rolex manufacture is pre-sold, SD included.
It has continued to grow in recent years (virtually doubling to 1'200'000 pieces).
The demand is such that the possibility of producing for the demand is impossible.
Whether you like it or not, it's not a product that most people shun, but one that sells very well, in constant progress, against your tastes.

[interestedinwatches]

" As it has been said before, you dismiss anything that goes against your opinion and don't bother to open your mind to other testimonies, in superiority and against your point of view here. You just repeat it, and that's it, your truth is the truth."

This is an emotional hobby. There is no opinion you have, nor can you convince me, that the SD43 is not ugly with a horrid caseback. This is not a logical discussion.

" Your opinion touches me one without moving the other, I assure you. I am having fun with a person who created a topic to understand why the bottom of a 4000ft waterproof watch must be more resistant and thicker than another, and who would like Rolex to direct its excellence in the field for its selfish aesthetic preference . "

You are clearly offended and take much offense otherwise you wouldn't be writing essays full of logical fallacies to convince someone your watch isn't ugly.

Regardless of its merits on paper, this is an aesthetic hobby, the luxury watch game. The SD43 can reach Saturn and back and I'll still think it looks nasty. That's just how emotional hobbies go.

You who like so much the error of logic, know that this proportion of people intervening is unknown to you.
For the rest, there are 7.7 billion individuals and you still don't know, it's pure fabrication to join your opinion."

You're the one who gauged the statistics of this topic cause of how offended you are, not me. Look in the mirror when talking about proportions. Another contradiction from the fallacious SD43 guy.

"Yet another fact, the entire Rolex manufacture is pre-sold, SD included.
It has continued to grow in recent years (virtually doubling to 1'200'000 pieces).
The demand is such that the possibility of producing for the demand is impossible.
Whether you like it or not, it's not a product that most people shun, but one that sells very well, in constant progress, against your tastes.

Why are you telling me that many other people buy the watch? Why do I care? I simply said it's not for me. Who cares how well its doing? Why do I care? It does not look good to me. Simple as that.

I'd like you also to know, that I never said it doesn't have its fair share of followers. It just has a lot more who would never wear it. You act like I said it's worthless. It is just not for me cause of a disgusting caseback. The SD43 is very easy to get at ADs for a reason.

Your watch is fat and unattractive to me buddy, that doesn't mean you can't like it. I have a YM and many people dislike it. I'm confident enough not to care, this is very subjective, and I absolutely love my YM.

Let me level with you here, you're not trying to convince me. You're trying to convince yourself, it's obvious. Deep down you know you don't like it and are trying to convince yourself it was the right decision. Anyone truly in love with their SD43 would shrug their shoulders and move on.

You'll be alright.

[Toproll85]

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

This is an emotional hobby. There is no opinion you have, nor can you convince me, that the SD43 is not ugly with a horrid caseback. This is not a logical discussion.

You are right it is personal.
You had agreed to measurable facts. The watch is not disproportionate at all.
Whether you don't like it, you're right everyone is free.

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

You are clearly offended and take much offense otherwise you wouldn't be writing essays full of logical fallacies to convince someone your watch isn't ugly.

At no time did we discuss the beauty of the object.

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

Let me level with you here, you're not trying to convince me. You're trying to convince yourself, it's obvious. Deep down you know you don't like it and are trying to convince yourself it was the right decision. Anyone truly in love with their SD43 would shrug their shoulders and move on.

You'll be alright.

You're wrong to think because someone is reacting to you it's because they're offended or they made a mistake.
You still have the same problem to correct, yet even children learn to progress and do better next time.
I'm just responding to your comments about substance and proportions. For me you say anything publicly to the discredit of Rolex, this SD43 can correspond to many men, without doing the hockey puck style.
For all the reasons, clarifications and details invoked in this thread.

Don't worry about me, I'm more than alright, just yesterday I wore my RO which looks like a truck nut to some and will continue to wear my SD to swim in my private lake spot, my Freak and Zeitwerk by fascination and watchmaking passion, along with all the others. 'Cause I don't need nobody's consent We agree at least on this point.

[interestedinwatches]

Originally Posted by Toproll85

You are right it is personal.
You had agreed to measurable facts. The watch is not disproportionate at all.
Whether you don't like it, you're right everyone is free.





At no time did we discuss the beauty of the object.





You're wrong to think because someone is reacting to you it's because they're offended or they made a mistake.
You still have the same problem to correct, yet even children learn to progress and do better next time.
I'm just responding to your comments about substance and proportions. For me you say anything publicly to the discredit of Rolex, this SD43 can correspond to many men, without doing the hockey puck style.
For all the reasons, clarifications and details invoked in this thread.

Don't worry about me, I'm more than alright, just yesterday I wore my RO which looks like a truck nut to some and will continue to wear my SD to swim in my private lake spot, my Freak and Zeitwerk by fascination and watchmaking passion, along with all the others. 'Cause I don't need nobody's consent We agree at least on this point.

Beauty was always the entire point of this thread.

To me the proportions are off. I do not like the proportions. Even if it travels to the core of the Earth, no matter how you justify it, visually the caseback is disproportionate to the rest of the watch even when there is a purpose to it.

I do not like it. Simple as that.

I am glad that you do like it. Allegedly at least.

I have an RO 15500 as well and I love that watch!

[Toproll85]

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

Beauty was always the entire point of this thread.

To me the proportions are off. I do not like the proportions. Even if it travels to the core of the Earth, no matter how you justify it, visually the caseback is disproportionate to the rest of the watch even when there is a purpose to it.

I do not like it. Simple as that.

I am glad that you do like it. Allegedly at least.

I have an RO 15500 as well and I love that watch!

I love it too, but a bit flimsy.
I preferred my VC 4500v in use, but its French bracelet when it comes from Geneva shot me (stupid principle, I grant you, another debate). I kept the RO, more for heritage purposes and out of admiration for manual work, also the perpetual calendar one for the complication and success.

Sorry for the HS, and thank you anyway for the exchange despite the fact that we couldn't agree on the subject.

[Noahgraph]

I agree with TS that there are way more comfortable watches than the SD43. I have sold both my James Cameron as well as it's replacement, the SD 43. They are simply not as comfortable as pretty much any other Rolex I ever owned. I have thick wrists yet the heaviness at the top sucks. When it comes to looks I would say they are both amazing!

To each their own!! No need to argue about that kids.

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Always appreciate your insights Victor and just goes to show what I was saying earlier about the comfort of this reference.



I’m happy it suits you well. I’m also getting on better with mine these days

Thanks, Brian.

I know you went back and forth with the SD43. I remember the days you first got yours, let it go due to discomfort but recently decided to give it a second chance. I hope you find a way to wear it that suits your wrist.

Some watches are not meant to be daily wearers, depending on our lifestyle and wrist shape. Some of my 45mm divers with large flat casebacks become painful after a few days of wearing them, especially with long sleeves and tight cuff sweaters. I accept that and try to leave them for the summer with t-shirts, which in my case considerably reduces discomfort.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

Thanks, Brian.

I know you went back and forth with the SD43. I remember the days you first got yours, let it go due to discomfort but recently decided to give it a second chance. I hope you find a way to wear it that suits your wrist.

Some watches are not meant to be daily wearers, depending on our lifestyle and wrist shape. Some of my 45mm divers with large flat casebacks become painful after a few days of wearing them, especially with long sleeves and tight cuff sweaters. I accept that and try to leave them for the summer with t-shirts, which in my case considerably reduces discomfort.

Thank you Victor, and I agree … as part of a collection there are aspects of comfort and wearability that I’m prepared to sacrifice for the sheer pleasure of owning a watch in rotation. The SD43 definitely falls into that category for me, as does the 690.

[Brian Page]

Well... I'm glad that's settled....

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[gwozhog]

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

My wrist is as flat as it gets. The extruding caseback makes the case not hug the wrist fully and no flat wrist would help that, unless you wear the watch ridiculously tight, which would defeat the purpose of enjoying a watch.

just put an aftermarket caseback on it thats flat and problem solved. When you sell switch it back.

[amh]

Originally Posted by interestedinwatches

Beauty was always the entire point of this thread.

To me the proportions are off. I do not like the proportions. Even if it travels to the core of the Earth, no matter how you justify it, visually the caseback is disproportionate to the rest of the watch even when there is a purpose to it.

I do not like it. Simple as that.

I am glad that you do like it. Allegedly at least.

I have an RO 15500 as well and I love that watch!

[GMTMasterNJ]

I have a smaller wrist but it's definitely flat. I don't have an SD4000 or SD43 but rather the Deepsea JC. Yes, it's thick but it sits properly above the wrist bone and I don't feel the heft at all. Sure, some shirtcuffs are tight but that's OK.
I still want an SD43 though.