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darkmachine · 11 June 2017, 12:57 PM

Hey guys!

I just joined this group and really hope you can help me on a purchase I am about to make. The watch is a 2008 two tone submariner, the gentlemen is asking 10,750 Canadian, he sounds like a complete gentlemen and I am committed to the purchase, just want to know if you guys can tell if it is real? I know there is a lot of good fakes going around and just want to feel assured to know it's real. What do you guys think? And what should I look for when I see the watch in person? Thank you!

cwieb · 11 June 2017, 01:31 PM

Any pictures available?

Jaycnyp · 11 June 2017, 01:35 PM

The price seems right. Make sure you get the gox and papers if possible. For 2008, the bracelet should have hollow center links. Also, the end link that connects to the watch should be solid. The clasp should have gold all the way through the center. Bracelets are a really good indicator for authenticity on the TT models. Also, remove bracelet at 12 o'clock side of the watch head will be the model number 16613 and on the 6 o'clock side will be the serial number which will match the paperwork. I also recommend googling pictures of the things I mentioned so you will know what I am saying. Good luck and congratulations!

ttnpb · 11 June 2017, 03:13 PM

Without pictures, nothing stands out as fake (or real).

GLADIATOR · 12 June 2017, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkmachine

Hey guys!

I just joined this group and really hope you can help me on a purchase I am about to make. The watch is a 2008 two tone submariner, the gentlemen is asking 10,750 Canadian, he sounds like a complete gentlemen and I am committed to the purchase, just want to know if you guys can tell if it is real? I know there is a lot of good fakes going around and just want to feel assured to know it's real. What do you guys think? And what should I look for when I see the watch in person? Thank you!

You are kidding
How could anyone comment on authenticity with out photos.
Its hard enough to make assumption with a photo - without is IMpossible.

Adam

haven_seeker · 12 June 2017, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

You are kidding
How could anyone comment on authenticity with out photos.
Its hard enough to make assumption with a photo - without is IMpossible.

Adam

This. There are too many fakes and just as many scammers out there to risk this kind of cash IMHO.

And around Toronto there are great dealers who will sell you examples of this watch for that price or less, everyday.

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 02:01 AM

Hey guys!

I just joined this group and really hope you can help me on a purchase I am about to make. The watch is a 2008 two tone submariner, the gentlemen is asking 10,750 Canadian, he sounds like a complete gentlemen and I am committed to the purchase, just want to know if you guys can tell if it is real? I know there is a lot of good fakes going around and just want to feel assured to know it's real. What do you guys think? And what should I look for when I see the watch in person? Thank you!

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 02:04 AM

Sorry the PICS did not upload. Here they are!!

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 02:06 AM

Something wrong with this site and attachments?? Jeez. Now I have to upload one by one??

cwieb · 12 June 2017, 02:16 AM

Watch appears genuine from what I can see. Rehaut is time period correct from the information you had provided us. Enjoy!

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

You are kidding
How could anyone comment on authenticity with out photos.
Its hard enough to make assumption with a photo - without is IMpossible.

Adam

I added pics.

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 06:44 AM

Anyone else??

123Blueface · 12 June 2017, 07:18 AM

Nice looking Serti.

Jaycnyp · 12 June 2017, 09:02 AM

From the pics, it appears authentic, if the serial number matches the paperwork I think it's good. Congratulations! And thinking about this makes me miss my 16613.

ttnpb · 12 June 2017, 10:33 AM

Some of these seri dials are suspect. This one is good, if it genuine factory Rolex, can't confirm. It could be a higher end aftermarket/custom/"refinished" dial.

darkmachine · 12 June 2017, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttnpb

Some of these seri dials are suspect. This one is good, if it genuine factory Rolex, can't confirm. It could be a higher end aftermarket/custom/"refinished" dial.

I'm going to get the watch opened up at a rolex reseller, what do we have to look for inside the watch when we open it up? Anything in specific?

GLADIATOR · 12 June 2017, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkmachine

I'm going to get the watch opened up at a rolex reseller, what do we have to look for inside the watch when we open it up? Anything in specific?

If its a ROLEX movement they can tell immediately.
If unsure take photos of it - especially the balance wheel. and post here.

Best

ttnpb · 12 June 2017, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkmachine

I'm going to get the watch opened up at a rolex reseller, what do we have to look for inside the watch when we open it up? Anything in specific?

A calibre 3135 movement.

darkmachine · 14 June 2017, 02:51 AM

Just picked up the watch. Super excited. Jeweller checked it and said authentic but here is a pic of inside for you guys to tell too https://ibb.co/jZJ3TQ

usrudiver932 · 15 June 2017, 11:56 AM

Nice!!!!! Enjoy

offrdmania · 15 June 2017, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkmachine

Just picked up the watch. Super excited. Jeweller checked it and said authentic but here is a pic of inside for you guys to tell too https://ibb.co/jZJ3TQ

That is some nasty rotor wear on the main plate

Gtecko · 15 June 2017, 11:20 PM

Congrats on your purchase !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by offrdmania

That is some nasty rotor wear on the main plate

could you explain to me how you can tell from the picture ? I am super curious to know
thanks !

GLADIATOR · 15 June 2017, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtecko

Congrats on your purchase !!

could you explain to me how you can tell from the picture ? I am super curious to know
thanks !

You can see the brassing on the top plate (left side and all round) where the rotor has been rubbing VERY badly

Gtecko · 15 June 2017, 11:33 PM

thanks for the quick answer @GLADIATOR , I actually never seen this before so this is good to know. are you referring to the black lines on the rotor( kinda fingerprint looking?)
is that caused from a lose rotor shaving off the back of the watch ?

GLADIATOR · 15 June 2017, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtecko

thanks for the quick answer @GLADIATOR , I actually never seen this before so this is good to know. are you referring to the black lines on the rotor( kinda fingerprint looking?)
is that caused from a lose rotor shaving off the back of the watch ?

No
Its NOT the rotor that is marked BUT the plate under neath it.
Look for brassing (gold where it should be steel color)

Gtecko · 16 June 2017, 12:29 AM

totally see that now @gladiator !! thank you friend.
what usually causes this to open and what are the long term issue with this ?

GLADIATOR · 16 June 2017, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtecko

totally see that now @gladiator !! thank you friend.
what usually causes this to open and what are the long term issue with this ?

The bearings are worn on the rotor.
Rotor will not spin easily, so watch will not wind efficiently.
In time noisy.

But this is not a watch class. So no more from me
a

splashlou · 18 June 2017, 09:32 AM

woe

Abdullah71601 · 18 June 2017, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtecko

totally see that now @gladiator !! thank you friend.
what usually causes this to open and what are the long term issue with this ?

For example, this thread - https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=bearings

More can be found in the Watch Tech forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

The bearings are worn on the rotor.
Rotor will not spin easily, so watch will not wind efficiently.
In time noisy.

But this is not a watch class. So no more from me
a

Here's

for your priceless expertise...

ttnpb · 19 June 2017, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

The bearings are worn on the rotor.
Rotor will not spin easily, so watch will not wind efficiently.
In time noisy.

But this is not a watch class. So no more from me
a

Great attitude.

A lot of your advice and opinions should be taken with caution anyways.

11 June 2017, 12:57 PM	#1
darkmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 62	2008 two tone Submarine - FAKE or REAL? Hey guys! I just joined this group and really hope you can help me on a purchase I am about to make. The watch is a 2008 two tone submariner, the gentlemen is asking 10,750 Canadian, he sounds like a complete gentlemen and I am committed to the purchase, just want to know if you guys can tell if it is real? I know there is a lot of good fakes going around and just want to feel assured to know it's real. What do you guys think? And what should I look for when I see the watch in person? Thank you!

12 June 2017, 07:18 AM	#13
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,939	Nice looking Serti. __________________ Rolex 228235 DD40 Olive, 126710BLRO, 116710BLNR, 116613LB, 116500LN White, 126610LN, 116500LN Black, 126610LV, 116610LV Breitling Navitimer 01, Cartier Santos Large

11 June 2017, 01:31 PM	#2
cwieb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,702	Any pictures available?

11 June 2017, 01:35 PM	#3
Jaycnyp "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: Classified Watch: Addict Posts: 1,122	The price seems right. Make sure you get the gox and papers if possible. For 2008, the bracelet should have hollow center links. Also, the end link that connects to the watch should be solid. The clasp should have gold all the way through the center. Bracelets are a really good indicator for authenticity on the TT models. Also, remove bracelet at 12 o'clock side of the watch head will be the model number 16613 and on the 6 o'clock side will be the serial number which will match the paperwork. I also recommend googling pictures of the things I mentioned so you will know what I am saying. Good luck and congratulations!

11 June 2017, 03:13 PM	#4
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	Without pictures, nothing stands out as fake (or real).

12 June 2017, 02:06 AM	#9
darkmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 62	Something wrong with this site and attachments?? Jeez. Now I have to upload one by one??

12 June 2017, 02:16 AM	#10
cwieb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,702	Watch appears genuine from what I can see. Rehaut is time period correct from the information you had provided us. Enjoy!

12 June 2017, 06:44 AM	#12
darkmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 62	Anyone else??

12 June 2017, 09:02 AM	#14
Jaycnyp "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: Classified Watch: Addict Posts: 1,122	From the pics, it appears authentic, if the serial number matches the paperwork I think it's good. Congratulations! And thinking about this makes me miss my 16613.

12 June 2017, 10:33 AM	#15
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	Some of these seri dials are suspect. This one is good, if it genuine factory Rolex, can't confirm. It could be a higher end aftermarket/custom/"refinished" dial.

14 June 2017, 02:51 AM	#19
darkmachine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 62	Just picked up the watch. Super excited. Jeweller checked it and said authentic but here is a pic of inside for you guys to tell too https://ibb.co/jZJ3TQ

15 June 2017, 11:56 AM	#20
usrudiver932 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Larry B Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 116610LN Posts: 207	Nice!!!!! Enjoy

15 June 2017, 11:33 PM	#24
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	thanks for the quick answer @GLADIATOR , I actually never seen this before so this is good to know. are you referring to the black lines on the rotor( kinda fingerprint looking?) is that caused from a lose rotor shaving off the back of the watch ?

16 June 2017, 12:29 AM	#26
Gtecko "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Halifax Posts: 518	totally see that now @gladiator !! thank you friend. what usually causes this to open and what are the long term issue with this ?

18 June 2017, 09:32 AM	#28
splashlou "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Linden Posts: 3	woe

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