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vh_bu98 · 21 November 2009, 09:18 AM

For a first Pam, would it be better to go with a mechanical or an automatic?

JJ Irani · 21 November 2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_bu98

For a first Pam, would it be better to go with a mechanical or an automatic?

As long as you don't change your mind and want to return it like that Daytona......I would suggest Automatic, Vu!!

ocwatching · 21 November 2009, 12:35 PM

depends on what you are after...
manual winding is the original heritage of PAM...
but Autos are supposed to be the "newer" technology and they charge more for it...

I went 312 as I wanted in house, 1950 case, date...at an aggressive price..that said...I am now looking at a manual historical one...or like 232 or 292 as my next PAM

TswaneNguni · 21 November 2009, 02:37 PM

I prefer winding a manual PAM,even more than the smell of napalm in the morning !!

Hmmmm .... a Tripple One as a first PAM is always a good idea !!

louie · 21 November 2009, 03:19 PM

Used to only wear automatic but now manual for me

roadcarver · 21 November 2009, 03:31 PM

I prefer automatic...

xbox · 21 November 2009, 04:08 PM

Does winding bother you

If not, choose the piece you want most - Luminor, Radiomir, 1950 ..... the choice is yours.

FWIW - winding the 292 isn't a problem, but when it stops, it kinda is

Trurolexer · 22 November 2009, 12:55 AM

For your first PAM please consider manual. Historic models like 000, 111, 005 or 112.
Or if you want an automatic, 312 is a GREAT choice. Good luck.

mike · 22 November 2009, 01:01 AM

I have both and as stated manual is more DNA oriented.

B. Doggy · 22 November 2009, 01:58 AM

Manual is great but in all reality you get this inherently built into an auto. I don't keep my 312 on a winder (mainly because it won't fit) and get to wind it every couple of days.

Good luck!

mfer · 22 November 2009, 02:41 AM

I seriously enjoy winding the watch every two days. Gives me time to stare some more!

Nica64 · 22 November 2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mfer

I seriously enjoy winding the watch every two days. Gives me time to stare some more!

X2, I love winding my 000 every two days!!

vh_bu98 · 23 November 2009, 12:32 AM

Wouldn't it be more difficult to set the second hand on a mechanic?

xbox · 23 November 2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_bu98

Wouldn't it be more difficult to set the second hand on a mechanic?

On some of the hand-wounds, 292 for example, you can't stop the second hand at all - its a non-hacking movement.

forza1976 · 23 November 2009, 01:41 AM

Manual PAM... Auto's are for your second PAM.

TswaneNguni · 23 November 2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xbox

On some of the hand-wounds, 292 for example, you can't stop the second hand at all - its a non-hacking movement.

Non-hacking on eg. the 111 and 113 too.Synchroing the minute and second hand is actually quite easy.I set my watches usualy 1 min ahead.Amazing how much that min helps for arriving on time !!

brainbizz · 23 November 2009, 02:28 AM

I flop back and forth. For every day ease of use auto unless 8 day manual. I quickly grow weary of winding my everyday watch constantly that said i own plenty of both. I do prefer manuals and get around the problem by having a large collection but if I had only one then auto.

BealeAss · 23 November 2009, 02:37 AM

I wasn't sure about this either, but ended up with a 111. Kind of a nice touch to wind it up when I wear it.

xbox · 23 November 2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Non-hacking on eg. the 111 and 113 too.Synchroing the minute and second hand is actually quite easy.I set my watches usualy 1 min ahead.Amazing how much that min helps for arriving on time !!

I try and start'er up from dead, so to speak, with the seconds in sync - now thats fun

lm21 · 23 November 2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_bu98

For a first Pam, would it be better to go with a mechanical or an automatic?

...and I'm guessing what you're REALLY asking is "should I get a 233 or 270?".

Am I at least warm here???

htc8p · 23 November 2009, 05:18 PM

why not get both...get a 112 and 104

great combination

21 November 2009, 09:18 AM	#1
vh_bu98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Vu Location: Dallas area Watch: Platinum YM Posts: 2,646	Mechanical or Automatic For a first Pam, would it be better to go with a mechanical or an automatic?

21 November 2009, 12:35 PM	#3
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	depends on what you are after... manual winding is the original heritage of PAM... but Autos are supposed to be the "newer" technology and they charge more for it... I went 312 as I wanted in house, 1950 case, date...at an aggressive price..that said...I am now looking at a manual historical one...or like 232 or 292 as my next PAM __________________ too much into watches...

21 November 2009, 03:19 PM	#5
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Lewis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	Used to only wear automatic but now manual for me __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

21 November 2009, 03:31 PM	#6
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	I prefer automatic... __________________ I'm just a cook...

22 November 2009, 01:58 AM	#10
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Manual is great but in all reality you get this inherently built into an auto. I don't keep my 312 on a winder (mainly because it won't fit) and get to wind it every couple of days. Good luck! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

21 November 2009, 02:37 PM	#4
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	I prefer winding a manual PAM,even more than the smell of napalm in the morning !! Hmmmm .... a Tripple One as a first PAM is always a good idea !!

21 November 2009, 04:08 PM	#7
xbox "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Beach in the Med Watch: Hunting ... Posts: 1,148	Does winding bother you If not, choose the piece you want most - Luminor, Radiomir, 1950 ..... the choice is yours. FWIW - winding the 292 isn't a problem, but when it stops, it kinda is

22 November 2009, 12:55 AM	#8
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	For your first PAM please consider manual. Historic models like 000, 111, 005 or 112. Or if you want an automatic, 312 is a GREAT choice. Good luck.

22 November 2009, 01:01 AM	#9
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I have both and as stated manual is more DNA oriented.

22 November 2009, 02:41 AM	#11
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	I seriously enjoy winding the watch every two days. Gives me time to stare some more! __________________ member#3242

23 November 2009, 12:32 AM	#13
vh_bu98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Vu Location: Dallas area Watch: Platinum YM Posts: 2,646	Wouldn't it be more difficult to set the second hand on a mechanic?

23 November 2009, 01:41 AM	#15
forza1976 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: matt Location: Denver Posts: 608	Manual PAM... Auto's are for your second PAM. __________________ Current Collection Rolex SS Daytona WD IWC Big Pilot PAM Black Seal 183 Omega SS Triple Date TW Steel CEO

23 November 2009, 02:28 AM	#17
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I flop back and forth. For every day ease of use auto unless 8 day manual. I quickly grow weary of winding my everyday watch constantly that said i own plenty of both. I do prefer manuals and get around the problem by having a large collection but if I had only one then auto.

23 November 2009, 02:37 AM	#18
BealeAss "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NH Posts: 417	I wasn't sure about this either, but ended up with a 111. Kind of a nice touch to wind it up when I wear it. __________________ Rolex 16610 LV Sub Rolex 116500 LN Daytona JLC 270.8.54 Reverso

23 November 2009, 05:18 PM	#21
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,451	here's a good 1-2 punch why not get both...get a 112 and 104 great combination

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