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Old 11 November 2018, 02:08 PM   #31
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Make sure you get a DME report for over revs since you are getting a manual.
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Old 11 November 2018, 02:24 PM   #32
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Sounds like your on to something really special Don. I am excited to see what you find and add to your already incredible car collection!
I’m in full downsizing mode ! No collection remaining.

Tired of maintenance and costs on toys not used. I’ve sold two vintage cars, and four motorcycles. I’ll be keeping the ‘32 hot rod, KTM Adventure, and adding said Porsche. I have bought a smaller tract of land, going to build a garage/house with 850 sq/ft of living space and 2,150 sq/ft garage area. I’ll be living practical, debt free, enjoying my hobbies/interests, in (hopefully) early retirement in just a few short years.

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Old 11 November 2018, 03:58 PM   #33
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I think the 997.1 is the right choice. You may be able to find some 997.2’s in that price range as well. Enjoy!
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Old 11 November 2018, 09:39 PM   #34
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That’s my thinking also. I enjoy the basic driving experience, the more electronic whiz bang gizmos, the less I’m interested.

Are those stock wheels that have been powder coated ?
Stock lobsters - factory painted gloss black with polished lip. The lip is key IMO. All black tends to make the rims look smaller with no perspective.
I've driven the 991 and although it is way ahead in terms of comfort, tech etc, the 997 is a bit rougher around the edges...which I like.
Most of the time you don't miss the extra HP but I love the manual gearbox and the driver engagement.
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Old 11 November 2018, 09:57 PM   #35
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A 997 Carerra WILL NOT appreciate
In the current market the prices do fluctuate (Europe at least). So if you buy well, good spec (bonus X51), good mileage, very good price you will never lose. It's obviously no speculation like the GT(2/3) (RS) models. But those have been taking a hit as well. Too many people thought they would get rich speculating with 991 GT3 RS's.

Because of the vintage hype (964/993) people caught the bug and everyone wanted a Porsche. So 996s that were hovering at 15-18k went up to the mid 20s and mid 30s for 996 4S's and +40s for 996 Turbo's. These prices caused the 997.1 to go up as well and (very well specced) 997.2 were going for +55-60k euro and more. Sell prices were very close to a 991.1, so it kept everything in check.

Things are settling down again with the upcoming 992 which is a good thing.
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Old 11 November 2018, 10:01 PM   #36
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Read about the engine problems with the 997.1.

A safer bet is the 997.2 or look at early 2012-13 991.1 stick models.
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Old 11 November 2018, 10:10 PM   #37
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I love all the Porsche variants - but the 997.1 will probably always be soft much like the 996.

I'm a bigger fan of the 996 (even with the fried egg headlights.) Have my eyes on a Turbo. Can't go wrong with that one.

And the most important thing you need to absolutely make sure of is that the IMS bearing has been upgraded. I'd personally walk away from any 996 and 997.1 that hasn't had the work done.

Sounds like a great adventure and make sure you do as much homework on the P-car as you would on a pre-owned Rolex.
If the IMS bearing hasn't been upgraded then you can use that as a great negotiating point. And then immediately have the work done, it definitely wouldn't stop me from getting example that I like.
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Old 12 November 2018, 12:39 AM   #38
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Fantastic thread lads and lucky you, Don.

I am going through similar motions but for an Audi TT S, MY 08-10. I am enjoying the experience as I am sure you are.

Looking forward to seeing how this develops and what you get.

You haven't stated any requirements around number of previous owners. For me it's an issue I would try to keep to a minimum. For that age I would accept maximum two but ideally just one owner. If the number is higher then the chances of it getting fiddled with are higher imho.

For luxury cars I think two is reasonable. I a theorising that a relatively wealthy person makes the initial purchase, keeps it a few years then trades off to another new one perhaps. Then the second owner keeps it or a few years..

Now that I read it back, sounds like nonsense..ha!
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Old 12 November 2018, 10:47 AM   #40
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I was where you are 4 years ago. I proceeded to buy an arctic silver 2006 997.1 and never looked back. The car had just over 90k miles (motor out replacement by Porsche at 36k miles) and I snagged it for $28k otd.

Have always bought and modified cars, buying and selling parts along the way. Basically each and every part I found went back into the car. Luckily a lot of the parts that came on the car had value, so every deal left me spending pennies on the dollar. Here she sits today - sorted and ready to run anytime I get the urge.

I’d suggest getting familiar w the local mechanics and find one you like. You’ll be spending some money and time there initially. Secondarily, hold out for the interior and exterior color combo you like. Bear in mind worn brown, terra-cotta and green interiors have substantial replacement costs compared to black. Lastly, get a ppi done. Critical to ensure the car was maintained by prior owners.

I’d do it all the same way over and over again. Frankly best money I’ve ever spent on anything ever (except for anything I’ve gotten wifey).
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Old 12 November 2018, 02:34 PM   #41
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I was where you are 4 years ago. I proceeded to buy an arctic silver 2006 997.1 and never looked back. The car had just over 90k miles (motor out replacement by Porsche at 36k miles) and I snagged it for $28k otd.

Have always bought and modified cars, buying and selling parts along the way. Basically each and every part I found went back into the car. Luckily a lot of the parts that came on the car had value, so every deal left me spending pennies on the dollar. Here she sits today - sorted and ready to run anytime I get the urge.

I’d suggest getting familiar w the local mechanics and find one you like. You’ll be spending some money and time there initially. Secondarily, hold out for the interior and exterior color combo you like. Bear in mind worn brown, terra-cotta and green interiors have substantial replacement costs compared to black. Lastly, get a ppi done. Critical to ensure the car was maintained by prior owners.

I’d do it all the same way over and over again. Frankly best money I’ve ever spent on anything ever (except for anything I’ve gotten wifey).
Thanks for the info !
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Oh... I’m the sixth owner of the car by the way lol.
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Old 12 November 2018, 10:33 PM   #43
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Congrats, Don! I'm very happy for you and can't wait to see the inevitable threads that follow.

Not much I can think to add in the thread right now - you've got some good tips and advice from the members that posted here.

Doing some of the work yourself can be a lot of fun at times. You seem to have the experience, but with the right tools and space there's a lot you'll be able to do. Anything else your Porsche specialist can without a doubt handle it.

What scan tool do you have? Back in the day when I was considering a 986 Boxster Durametric seemed to be the way to to for dealer level diagnostics. I didn't have a chance to really look into it yet but wanted to share the link anyway

http://www.durametric.com/modelfeaturematrixv6.aspx
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Thanks for the real world experience !

I definitely plan on the S version. Considered a Cayman for while, but I’ve always wanted a 911 and am afraid I wouldn’t be happy unless it was a 911. I drove a 2015 Cayman S, and IMO, the handling/driving experience is better than. 911 !
I went with a 718 Cayman. I wanted speed and a base 718 is quicker than a base 911. The Cayman also handles the turns much better. All for much less money. Just something to think about.
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