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12 November 2018, 03:56 PM | #61 |
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yes, i would agree Rolex is like a Benz in the car world~~~
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12 November 2018, 05:28 PM | #63 |
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Rolex = Toyota with good resell value.
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12 November 2018, 05:33 PM | #64 |
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If Rolex is Lexus, what is Grand Seiko then?
Someone wrote a good comparison to MB which makes total sense, that it can be used for status or reliability in any environment. Parallels can also be made to BMW, perhaps Rolex is appealing to a younger audience lately and cerachrom feels very 'performance'. But best comparison imao is the Submariner and Porsche 911. I always thought of the sub as a 911, luxury that is attainable for many if you work hard and do the right things, both iconic designs, any generation is cool and have their own quirks, retains value over long term etc. |
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Rolex Porsche
AP Bentley PP Rolls Royce
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12 November 2018, 06:32 PM | #67 |
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stopped reading this after
'Is Omega a BMW because it tries but can never get the same level as Rolex/MB.' Like Mercedes is better than BMW its just a matter of taste both are equal just like Rolex and Omega are probably equal too
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Mercedes Benz is probably Omega.... AP is Lamborghini RM is Pagani etc |
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As someone who has recently sold a PAM, I can vouch for all of the above. Probably the noisiest automatic self winding watch I have ever owned, sounded rough as though it needed lubrication, but was assured that it was fine by the dealer when put in to be checked. In comparison, all of my Rolex have never sounded like the rotor was ran on the cheapest bearing in creation. My PAM also gained 3 to 5 minutes a week, even after adjustment of their inhouse 9000 series movement. As for resale .... I lost a chunk of change with that watch, never again. Apart form the Italian side of the comparison, I'd call the PAM a Range Rover. Big, chunky, very impressive to friends and family that you have one, high initial purchase price that drops in value around 60% within 3 years which coincides with the rough mechanic's being brought to light as you pay through the nose to have it fixed.
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12 November 2018, 07:30 PM | #71 |
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Rolex = Toyota
You can beat on them incessantly and they are durable enough to just keep going. Plus they're easy to service. Mercedes are not reliable and cost a fortune to repair.
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Rolex is like a Lexus, good and reliable and needed very minimum services. Patek is more like a Rolls Royce of watches.
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I loved the look of my PAM, and was actually pleased that it was an inhouse movement, which gave it more credibility as opposed to a "bitsa this and bitsa that" brand in my opinion. But from the moment I picked up on the movement being noisy it lost its lustre with me and I always felt underwhelmed that this so called luxury watch sounded worse than a $100 fashion house automatic. When it regularly gained 3 minutes + per week, it was an easy decision to get rid of it ..... easy decision, not easy in practise, dealers simply dont want them as they sit for a very long time before a buyer pulls the trigger, I lost 40% on my initial purchase price .... had I bought at full retail the loss would have been 55% .... mine was a PAM00347 with the P.9002 movement.
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12 November 2018, 09:03 PM | #75 |
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Rolex = Porsche Patek = Rolls Royce Rm = Bugatti Ap = Ferrari Omega = Audi Iwc = Lexus |
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Yeah, mine had the P.9011 and was a gigantic disappointment. |
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12 November 2018, 11:13 PM | #78 |
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Too many different criteria to match watches to cars. A Rolex may have the brand recognition of Mercedes, but the resale value of a Honda, and the dependability of.......too many criteria.
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13 November 2018, 12:06 AM | #79 |
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For me Rolex is like Lexus. #1 on dependability and value for what it is. Tudor would be Toyota and have the same type of value as Lexus and it is the same brand. I have been a MB fan for years and have owned one almost consistently since 1993 but I have seen the brand fall off in quality while increasing costs. Right now I am a Lexus fan and it would take a lot to move to MB or BMW.
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I'd say Mercedes is more like Glashutte Original:
They're both German They both make high end pieces but they probably have trouble selling and they take a big depreciation hit Glashutte Original sponsors automotive events like the Cars & Watches at London City Concours as Mercedes is involved in multiple sponsorships |
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Aston Martin, handbuilt and finished to a high standard, very high performance. some quirkiness...
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For me:
Rolex = mercedes - common, known and luxury BMW = omega - close to mb but not there Fp journe = Pagani - fairly rare, independent PP = ferrari - great brand, History, but a bit dependent on name AP = Lamborghini- still known like ferrari Lange = Bugatti - amazing quality and attention to detail R.W Smuth, Dufour,etc = Rolls - most attention to detail Breguet = Bentley - great styling, detail and hand work
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I disagree, it is accepted that those are the qualities of an Aston Martin. I doubt many people (including some watch enthusiasts realise that Seiko and Grand Seiko have completely different design and watchmaking philosophies). However, if GS got the attention it deserved then you could be right!
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Both focus heavily on “showcase the important invention/mechanism”
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My 2014 only had to go to the shop once for an unscheduled visit. Bad sensor. The newer RR's and RRS's are fantastic, and do hold their resale value. Maintenance costs are high though, but then again, so are BMW, Porsche, and MB. |
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I had coil issues leading to misfires. and finally, I had an issue with the E Parking brake ... that was the straw that broke the donkeys back for me ... it engaged while barreling down a motorway Loved it when it was running well ... it could boogie on and hustle with the best of them, air suspension lowered it to the ground over 70mph, it could chew up winter roads and it was the lap of luxury ..... but it was a heart breaker when things went wrong and 60% hurt on my PX. Then again .... we dont buy vehicles like this and expect free motoring
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