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Old 11 September 2018, 08:05 PM   #31
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One thing I haven’t considered is waterproofness. Would that be a problem with a watch of this vintage, assuming I get it serviced? I do plan on diving, fresh water, salt water, chlorinated water, hot tubs, and showers. It would literally never leave my wrist.


Honestly. I wouldn’t go near water with mine. It’s just not worth the risk. Even thought it’s been pressure tested etc.
If you want a watch to do all the above in, then Id recommend a modern new Rolex. Definitely not a vintage drsd. Or a swatch


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Old 11 September 2018, 08:18 PM   #32
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One thing I haven’t considered is waterproofness. Would that be a problem with a watch of this vintage, assuming I get it serviced? I do plan on diving, fresh water, salt water, chlorinated water, hot tubs, and showers. It would literally never leave my wrist.
It can be waterproof. You will however need a modern crystal rather than the old superdome. You will also need to keep gaskets, crown, tube etc fresh and continuesly have the watch pressure tested to feel certain it is waterproof. With a fresh crystal and gaskets the watch should be as safe to dive with as when it was new as long as the case and caseback isn’t damaged. That said it’s not risk free but that is the case with any watch going into water.

Personally I don’t risk things with my watches but then I don’t feel the need to wear a watch when I jump into the water.
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Old 12 September 2018, 12:06 AM   #33
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So with regard to point 2, I can find plenty of info on what a mark 3 insert is supposed to look like, but the mark 4 information is somewhat incomplete. Could you please point me in the right direction for what to look for in a mark 4 bezel insert?



As far as point 3, aren’t they ALL superdomes? I’m missing something here.



Sorry for the dumb questions.


I vote you need a mkIII Insert. To answer your question, on a mk4 insert, the inside of the 4 is not triangular, it has a flat top. Look at the 4 in 40:

Mk3


Mk4


As to the crystal, they aren’t all superdomed, but they are all domed. The original ones had a much more pronounced dome, the later ones have a lesser dome. Can be hard to decipher unless you see them lined up next to each other. There’s a pic on the Internet showing the 3 versions, but I can’t find it at the moment.


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Old 12 September 2018, 01:42 AM   #34
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I'd send the 1665 to a true vintage Rolex specialist to service it. Bob Ridley, LAWW, Rikki, etc .... There are several excellent options out there, and most have been discussed frequently on this forum.

I'd also just get a relatively cheap Rolex service insert for the watch while you decide whether you want to invest in an expensive period-correct insert, just so the watch doesn't look naked. Nothing wrong at all with a Rolex service insert, which should be only about $150 and still getable from Rolex Service Centers, as long as they install it for you. A vintage insert would be better, of course, but they're pricey!

Good luck!
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Old 12 September 2018, 10:07 AM   #35
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Keep it. Selling it would be eventually be regretted.


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Old 13 September 2018, 12:16 AM   #36
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Sorry for your loss. I'd definitely keep the watch, not sell it.
Get it serviced properly, source an insert - service insert is fine if you can't justify a few grand on an old one.
New gaskets, crystal and pressure test won't be a fortune.
Wear with pride and use it like your dad did.
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Old 13 September 2018, 12:24 AM   #37
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Is a service bezel (not insert, but the bezel itself) worth getting? Or should I just source an original bezel?

One problem I’m facing is that I’m scared of buying the wrong parts. For example, I was told earlier in this thread that all 1665 bezels are the same, but that the 5513 is similar but not the same. However, almost every sale listing for the bezel lists both 1665 and 5513. Guidance would be greatly appreciated!

I think I may take the route of going with a period correct bezel and a service insert, then saving up some money and keeping an eye out for a period correct bezel insert for later.

I can’t thank you all enough.
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Old 13 September 2018, 12:26 AM   #38
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The bezel (the metal outer disc which you turn) is different for a drsd vs a 5513. The insert itself (the metal disc which sits in the bezel and has the numbers on it) is interchangeable between subs and seadwellers.


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Old 13 September 2018, 12:50 AM   #39
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Well, Gerry Jr., I think you have the right frame of mind in wearing it to honor the practical man your father is.

I say “is” because he obviously lives on - in your spirit as well as genes.

Now, for my 2¢...

Get to know Nick (greekbum) here on TRF - he is local to you and may know a few potential sources for the right bezel and/or insert. A coffee at Starbucks could yield a new friend as well as some good insight. He deals with vintage Subs fairly regularly.

Another vote for a local who could do a service is Rikki - and he would follow your directions about “no polishing”, authentic parts, etc. Time Care Inc is his shop in Seminole - just a short drive West of Tampa. I do recommend talking with him at the shop personally. Phone calls are spotty because he is so overloaded with overhauls.

Lastly, wearing the watch (even though it’s potentially worth $30-40K when returned to completeness) is the right thing IMHO. I also include recreational diving once all the gaskets and o-rings are replaced. After all people regularly wear a $75K watch at the race track! Or dive with a $40K Gold Sub. Another local to meet is Dr. Tom who races in IMSA GT3 Cup wearing his Platona

Much luck with your quest and look forward to seeing the “before & after” pics later.


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Old 13 September 2018, 01:22 AM   #40
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Is a service bezel (not insert, but the bezel itself) worth getting? Or should I just source an original bezel?

One problem I’m facing is that I’m scared of buying the wrong parts. For example, I was told earlier in this thread that all 1665 bezels are the same, but that the 5513 is similar but not the same. However, almost every sale listing for the bezel lists both 1665 and 5513. Guidance would be greatly appreciated!

I think I may take the route of going with a period correct bezel and a service insert, then saving up some money and keeping an eye out for a period correct bezel insert for later.

I can’t thank you all enough.
The original bezel is always better, of course, but if you don't have it, there's nothing wrong with a Rolex replacement bezel. The bigger issue for collectors is really the insert, because it can change the look dramatically. But that's just picky collectors, like me! Get a service insert for now, and figure out down the road if you want to invest in a vintage-appropriate insert. If the watch hasn't been serviced in decades, I'd put my money into that for now.
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Old 13 September 2018, 01:27 AM   #41
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Buying a nice insert adds that value to the piece. It is just a question if one is willing to park that money in the watch or not.
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Old 13 September 2018, 01:34 PM   #42
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I’m still awaiting a detailed quote. The suspense is killing me. I fear, badly, that I won’t be able to afford it.
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Old 21 September 2018, 11:51 PM   #43
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Small update.

We sourced all of the period correct parts and it’s being serviced. It’ll take some time, but it’s being done! I had a stroke of luck and also found the 50th anniversary cousin, the 126600 “Single Red” modern 43mm Sea Dweller at an AD (and there’s quite a story behind that one). It’s nice because it’s almost like having a set, plus now I have the best of both worlds. My family has already affectionately nicknamed the two watches “Gerry” and “Gerry Jr”. The two tell a heck of a story.

I’ll wait until the DRSD is done and back on my wrist. Then I’ll share the stories and pictures. So bye for now, but I will update this in maybe 6 weeks. :)
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Old 22 September 2018, 12:03 AM   #44
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One thing I haven’t considered is waterproofness. Would that be a problem with a watch of this vintage, assuming I get it serviced? I do plan on diving, fresh water, salt water, chlorinated water, hot tubs, and showers. It would literally never leave my wrist.
Risky with such an irreplaceable piece. Seal failure is a "when" rather than an "if" unless you have it serviced very regularly, and even then things can go wrong. Wear it wisely - get a replaceable beater for the water activities, and save that baby for dry land.
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Old 22 September 2018, 12:08 AM   #45
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Risky with such an irreplaceable piece. Seal failure is a "when" rather than an "if" unless you have it serviced very regularly, and even then things can go wrong. Wear it wisely - get a replaceable beater for the water activities, and save that baby for dry land.
It may be blasphemy to call my 126600 my beater, but I have ZERO intentions of babying it. It will do everything with me, underwater or otherwise. That’s how I choose to enjoy this particular watch. That’s how my dad wore his!

But yea, I will baby the DRSD. :)
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Old 22 September 2018, 05:54 PM   #46
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Perfect end to a wonderful story , keep Dads watch for best and wear the hell out of the 126600 ,
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Old 23 September 2018, 09:17 AM   #47
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Congrats on finding the period correct parts as well as your new "beater"!

You better report back with pics after your DRSD comes back from service! Or we'll put together a posse, find you, and we'll all kick you in the.......shins!

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