AP Royal Oak 15400 vs 15500 - Full comparison

[Horolojust]

Hi all,

I spent sometime putting these two together and talking about not only what’s actually different cosmetically and technically; but what I personally feel about the upgrade.


Enjoy the video below, and let me know what you guys feel about both of these, and especially the change.

Personally, I go 15300 > 15400 > 15500 in order of my liking and preference.







https://youtu.be/QebFRjkrCs8



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[masterserg]

Very nice! I prefer the 400 (which I own) and might consider adding a grey 500 later on ... or hopefully they will release a white/silver in a few years.

The video is fantastic, as expected of you by now.

[benlee]

Is it just me or the tappiserie squares looks bigger on the 500 compared to the 400 ?

[HL65]

Haven’t warmed up to the 500 yet and always loved the 300 and 400.

[Ar_Mi]

Great review!
Is it me or does the 15500 look like it has slightly shorter lugs?
If you look at the very outer edge of both bezels at 12 and 6 o’clock, you will notice that the lugs on the 15500 are a tad bit shorter (closer to the edge) in comparison to the older 15400..
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[Sydny2]

Very good comparison. Thank you!

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

Great review!
Is it me or does the 15500 look like it has slightly shorter lugs?
If you look at the very outer edge of both bezels at 12 and 6 o’clock, you will notice that the lugs on the 15500 are a tad bit shorter (closer to the edge) in comparison to the older 15400..
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Definitely seems like less space on the 15500, but I think it is because the bezel is larger and thinner than on the 15400.

[othertbone]

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[Famz_01]

15500 dial looks too bland. I prefer longer hour markers on the 15400

[JR16]

That video was absolutely brilliant.


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[Ar_Mi]

Originally Posted by Skyrider01

Definitely seems like less space on the 15500, but I think it is because the bezel is larger and thinner than on the 15400.

I don't think its the bezel that's longer, since they are both 41mm as per the AP website. I think the lugs are a bit shorter now, perhaps to compensate for the slight added thickness.

either way, thanks for posting Hafiz

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by benlee

Is it just me or the tappiserie squares looks bigger on the 500 compared to the 400 ?

If u look at the AP it’s 2 across and 3 down. Looks same to me

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

I don't think its the bezel that's longer, since they are both 41mm as per the AP website. I think the lugs are a bit shorter now, perhaps to compensate for the slight added thickness.

either way, thanks for posting Hafiz

Yes, they are both 41mm in case diameter. But if you look at the 2 closely, it appears that the bezel on the 15500 is slightly thinner than on the 15400, and closer to the edge of the case. This will effectively increase the size of dial, which appears just slightly larger on the 15500 well.

I may be wrong, but that is my observation.

[epc2]

Nice Video.

[FWK]

Great comparison. Both looks wonderful. But in the end I’ll have to give it to the 15400.
Way more classic and sophisticated. The 15500 is very modern looking and has gone with the trends right now. That will date it more than the 15400 in 10 years.

[ikincooper]

Another great vid Hafiq. Your close up shots are amazing. I cannot wait to finally get a RO once my name comes up. Keep up the great work


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[Xamy]

Great video

[FHFinster]

Great video. I’ve seen several that you’ve produced and have always enjoyed them.

Thank you for your contribution.

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by Skyrider01

Definitely seems like less space on the 15500, but I think it is because the bezel is larger and thinner than on the 15400.

You could be right. I didn’t notice it really. I’ll have a closer look again, and update with a Photo.

Originally Posted by HL65

Haven’t warmed up to the 500 yet and always loved the 300 and 400.

Neither have I

Originally Posted by benlee

Is it just me or the tappiserie squares looks bigger on the 500 compared to the 400 ?

No, it’s just that camera lens is a bit closer to grey 15500 so the squares look bigger. They’re otherwise 100% identical.

Originally Posted by Sydny2

Very good comparison. Thank you!

Thanks so much :)

Originally Posted by JR16

That video was absolutely brilliant.


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Many thanks for watching and the feedback :)

Originally Posted by masterserg

Very nice! I prefer the 400 (which I own) and might consider adding a grey 500 later on ... or hopefully they will release a white/silver in a few years.

The video is fantastic, as expected of you by now.

I have both and still prefer 15400
Thanks so much for watching and the feedback.

Originally Posted by FHFinster

Great video. I’ve seen several that you’ve produced and have always enjoyed them.

Thank you for your contribution.

Thanks so much for watching my videos and the support. Keep it coming pls :)

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

Great review!
Is it me or does the 15500 look like it has slightly shorter lugs?
If you look at the very outer edge of both bezels at 12 and 6 o’clock, you will notice that the lugs on the 15500 are a tad bit shorter (closer to the edge) in comparison to the older 15400..
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Great observation mate. I think you’re spot on and I never noticed it myself. Now I’m going back to my gallery and every photo seems to suggest what you’ve said. I’ll have a closer look again and update you here. Anoher photo from my gallery in the interim:

Originally Posted by Skyrider01

Yes, they are both 41mm in case diameter. But if you look at the 2 closely, it appears that the bezel on the 15500 is slightly thinner than on the 15400, and closer to the edge of the case. This will effectively increase the size of dial, which appears just slightly larger on the 15500 well.



I may be wrong, but that is my observation.

Yes, I think that’s the case. I’ll double check as I wasn’t aware of it myself.

Originally Posted by ikincooper

Another great vid Hafiq. Your close up shots are amazing. I cannot wait to finally get a RO once my name comes up. Keep up the great work


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Thanks so much for watching and the support. All the best for your RO :)

Originally Posted by Famz_01

15500 dial looks too bland. I prefer longer hour markers on the 15400

15400 any day of the week for me. 15500; I’m still not sure.

Originally Posted by FWK

Great comparison. Both looks wonderful. But in the end I’ll have to give it to the 15400.
Way more classic and sophisticated. The 15500 is very modern looking and has gone with the trends right now. That will date it more than the 15400 in 10 years.

I completely agree with you. 15400 retains the RO characteristics. 15500 has gone far too off and looks just something else. still beautiful but something else.

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

If u look at the AP it’s 2 across and 3 down. Looks same to me

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Xamy

Great video

Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by othertbone

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Originally Posted by epc2

Nice Video.

Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

I don't think its the bezel that's longer, since they are both 41mm as per the AP website. I think the lugs are a bit shorter now, perhaps to compensate for the slight added thickness.



either way, thanks for posting Hafiz

Thanks so much for watching. Yeah 15500 is thicker and that could be the reason. I’ll have a closer look again and update.




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[JohnGT3RS]

Very nice video. I also enjoyed the one comparing the 15400 and 26331.

[RolexZen]

Nice video. And good follow-up questions on here. Would be interesting if you could take a pair of calipers and determine if the bezels are actually different widths. And measure the lug-to-lugs while you’re at it. :-)

Seriously, answers here would be great, but you could even consider a follow-up Q&A video where you demonstrate the caliper readings and answer other questions. Just a thought. You do a great job with your videos.

I appreciate you pointing out that the choice is the 15500 if you’re looking for a sportier look, vs the 15400 if looking for more elegant or more traditional or dressy look. But I think a couple other points could be made. 1. If someone is looking for that more traditional or dressy look, they’ll have to turn to the 15202 or the second-hand market for the now discontinued 15400 (unless a lucky NOS find), and 2. the 15500 was designed to further differentiate it from the 15202, and in that, I think AP succeeds. The 41mm is no longer just the larger choice of Royal Oaks (or often the compromise choice when a Jumbo is unavailable).

Myself, I prefer some things from each watch, but I would never consider a 15400 since I do have a Jumbo. But I might one day consider a 15500.

Oh, one thing that I had not noticed on the 15500 before that your video revealed to me—the octagonal center core of the skeleton rotor with the beveled edges. I love it!

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by RolexZen

Nice video. And good follow-up questions on here. Would be interesting if you could take a pair of calipers and determine if the bezels are actually different widths. And measure the lug-to-lugs while you’re at it. :-)

Seriously, answers here would be great, but you could even consider a follow-up Q&A video where you demonstrate the caliper readings and answer other questions. Just a thought. You do a great job with your videos.

I appreciate you pointing out that the choice is the 15500 if you’re looking for a sportier look, vs the 15400 if looking for more elegant or more traditional or dressy look. But I think a couple other points could be made. 1. If someone is looking for that more traditional or dressy look, they’ll have to turn to the 15202 or the second-hand market for the now discontinued 15400 (unless a lucky NOS find), and 2. the 15500 was designed to further differentiate it from the 15202, and in that, I think AP succeeds. The 41mm is no longer just the larger choice of Royal Oaks (or often the compromise choice when a Jumbo is unavailable).

Myself, I prefer some things from each watch, but I would never consider a 15400 since I do have a Jumbo. But I might one day consider a 15500.

Oh, one thing that I had not noticed on the 15500 before that your video revealed to me—the octagonal center core of the skeleton rotor with the beveled edges. I love it!

Thanks so much for taking time out to point out all the additional notes and where I could have improved.

Follow up Q&A is definitely a great idea, and yes, I request you all to leave the queries and questions here. I will do a follow up video to confirm the bezel thickness or if there is any difference in the lug to lug etc.

I agree with you, that 15500 is a good alternative even if you have 15202, and AP have succeeded in that. I did point this out in my video but probably I could have been more elaborative.

Thanks again for all the points, I’ll take a note to cover that in my follow up video, especially the octagonal centre core of rotor :)


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[RolexZen]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

Thanks so much for taking time out to point out all the additional notes and where I could have improved.

Follow up Q&A is definitely a great idea, and yes, I request you all to leave the queries and questions here. I will do a follow up video to confirm the bezel thickness or if there is any difference in the lug to lug etc.

I agree with you, that 15500 is a good alternative even if you have 15202, and AP have succeeded in that. I did point this out in my video but probably I could have been more elaborative.

You did point it out. I guess I’m just saying that the 15400 is less complimentary/almost redundant if you already have a 15202.

Thanks again for all the points, I’ll take a note to cover that in my follow up video, especially the octagonal centre core of rotor :)

Awesome. Let us know when you post again on YT!

[Halothane]

Excellent review and video! This was very helpful. Subscribed!