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Old 20 February 2015, 03:02 AM   #1
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when patina is too good to be true

There's an online seller selling vintage rolexes and every one i see has perfect patina.
Question is...could this patina be added on with "brush paint" or other methods?

Is the a way to tell if they are natural?

I havent bought from the seller yet because seriously ...i have not believed in those patina yet.
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Old 20 February 2015, 03:46 AM   #2
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Do you mean the watches with the perfect orange patina?
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Old 20 February 2015, 04:01 AM   #3
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I think I know who you mean, and what's even more curious is that those with patina have virtually the same shade of patina.
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Old 20 February 2015, 04:14 AM   #4
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Would be curious to see these watches. I'm fairly new to Rolex but have a great love for vintage watches. I hadn't even thought about this when looking at watches before, would hate to be duped.
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Old 20 February 2015, 04:16 AM   #5
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I think what seller you are talking about - but; you should name the seller. That is more honest - and leaves all the other sellers out of suspicion.
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Old 20 February 2015, 04:36 AM   #6
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Geez... here we go again.

"Is the a way to tell if they are natural?"

Yes, do some proper research, and make an informed decision.

If you 'don't believe it', don't buy it - simple.
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Old 21 February 2015, 02:33 AM   #7
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Maybe this seller just has the perfect humidor.
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Old 21 February 2015, 02:36 AM   #8
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Geez... here we go again.

"Is the a way to tell if they are natural?"

Yes, do some proper research, and make an informed decision.

If you 'don't believe it', don't buy it - simple.

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Old 21 February 2015, 02:39 AM   #9
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Who's the seller?
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Old 21 February 2015, 04:30 AM   #10
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would benefit us all to name the seller and provide a link to see, otherwise what is the point of this thread?
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Old 21 February 2015, 04:38 AM   #11
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When patina is too good to be true I say NB (No Buy)
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Old 21 February 2015, 06:17 AM   #12
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When patina is too good to be true I say NB (No Buy)
I see what you did there....HA
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Old 21 February 2015, 06:35 AM   #13
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There's an online seller selling vintage rolexes and every one i see has perfect patina.
Question is...could this patina be added on with "brush paint" or other methods?

Is the a way to tell if they are natural?

I havent bought from the seller yet because seriously ...i have not believed in those patina yet.
You mean like this? http://classicwatchrepair.com/page3.html
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Old 21 February 2015, 06:52 AM   #14
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When patina is too good to be true I say NB (No Buy)
Deliciously done.
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Old 21 February 2015, 08:18 AM   #15
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Orange is the new tritium. Nasty Boys.
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Old 21 February 2015, 09:19 AM   #16
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That is not correct.

It´s time for Nota Bene.
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Old 21 February 2015, 09:32 AM   #17
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Are the cases also really sharp with incredible lugs that all seem to have survived the years unscathed?
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Old 21 February 2015, 10:02 AM   #18
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When patina is too good to be true I say NB (No Buy)

Naughty. Lol. And the prices r substantial too.


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Old 21 February 2015, 10:03 AM   #19
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Are the cases also really sharp with incredible lugs that all seem to have survived the years unscathed?

Thats the one.


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Old 21 February 2015, 10:03 AM   #20
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LOL!

Nice one, Mon.
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Old 21 February 2015, 10:39 AM   #21
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lol!

Nice one, mon.
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Old 21 February 2015, 11:11 AM   #22
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This is an old topic and seems to get revived every few years.

Seller is from Hong Kong and everyone knows that the patina has been altered and the cases have been refinished.

Once you know that, you can then decide to pay the premium or pass.

Most experienced buyers pass, but he's still around so he must be be selling them to someone..
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Old 21 February 2015, 11:17 AM   #23
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Are the cases also really sharp with incredible lugs that all seem to have survived the years unscathed?
Yeah, best-case = laser welding. Worst case = fake case...

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Old 21 February 2015, 12:05 PM   #24
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What if the all natural patina is organic?
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Old 21 February 2015, 12:19 PM   #25
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Organic, like a mold?!?!

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Old 21 February 2015, 01:14 PM   #26
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I'm still no wiser on who the seller is...

Would somebody care to PM me?
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Old 21 February 2015, 01:52 PM   #27
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Thanks for the PMs guys. I wasn't aware of this seller before. Thanks for the caution!
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Old 21 February 2015, 02:05 PM   #28
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I have been wondering the same thing about that seller. It's definitely artificially "aged" but I don"t know that it is nescerelly "painted or stained". It is. Rey easy to accelerate the aging process of,most materials.
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Old 21 February 2015, 06:51 PM   #29
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When patina is too good to be true I say NB (No Buy)

LMAO! You are hilarious and satirical dude - my hats off to you :)


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Old 21 February 2015, 07:15 PM   #30
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Interestingly the seller from Hong Kong (it is not classicwatchrepair btw) never commented on the doubts which have been raised here.

I would like to hear the mod's take on this.
Maybe they are 'in dubio pro reo' because noone can prove that the cases and dials have been manipulated because he's still allowed to sell here.

I am often in Hong Kong and would not buy from him
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