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2careless · 4 April 2010, 09:34 PM

You do know that one can use a syringe with blunt headed needles to fill up the cartridges, and you can use as many colors of ink as you like?

Shangas · 4 April 2010, 09:45 PM

2C's correct. I used to do it all the time...until I got fed up of cartridges.

sunburst · 4 April 2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2careless

You do know that one can use a syringe with blunt headed needles to fill up the cartridges, and you can use as many colors of ink as you like?

Kai, I believe you are referring to the item in the photo.
Do they work well ?

Taffi Abernathy · 5 April 2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2careless

You do know that one can use a syringe with blunt headed needles to fill up the cartridges, and you can use as many colors of ink as you like?

No Kai, I did not know this as this is my first real FP. I suppose I can purchase this syringe at FPH? I love that British Racing Green Color and that beautiful, stately blue that Ian uses. Thanks for the info, this opens a whole new world for me!

2careless · 5 April 2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

No Kai, I did not know this as this is my first real FP. I suppose I can purchase this syringe at FPH? I love that British Racing Green Color and that beautiful, stately blue that Ian uses. Thanks for the info, this opens a whole new world for me!

I got mine from a printer ink cartridge refill shop, and just recycle the used cartridges. Cartridge inks are a ripoff, IMHO.

2careless · 5 April 2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sunburst

Kai, I believe you are referring to the item in the photo.
Do they work well ?

Yup, but gotta be careful when filling the cartridges as their opening is very small and they don't hold much ink, so it's very easy to overfill and you have to mop up your desk...

sunburst · 5 April 2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 2careless

Yup, but gotta be careful when filling the cartridges as their opening is very small and they don't hold much ink, so it's very easy to overfill and you have to mop up your desk...

Kai, thanks for the additional info.
My neo vintage MB144 does not have converter and newer
converter just does not seem to fit correctly. I'll give this a try so that
at least I can use my favorite ink with MB144.

Shangas · 5 April 2010, 12:46 PM

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Cartridge inks are a ripoff, IMHO.

And very much in my opinion as well, sir.

Taffi Abernathy · 6 April 2010, 01:43 AM

Just contacted Pen City and they advised me of a new product, "Private Reserve's Ink Cartridge Kit," manufactured exclusively to refill empty ink cartridges. Ordered it along with a bottle of Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black Ink. Noodler's also makes another blue-black, but the Aircorp version had more vibrancy. Didn't know if anyone else would be interested in purchasing the cartridge refill kit, but I wanted to pass this on.

sunburst · 6 April 2010, 02:08 AM

I've placed an order for "Private Reserve's Ink Cartridge Kit" from ISellPens.com.
They have "Private Reserve's Ink Mixing Kit" too.

vitix · 6 April 2010, 02:19 AM

this is my favorite....MontBlanc Bordeaux

Taffi Abernathy · 6 April 2010, 02:39 AM

What a great color, Victor. That burgundy has an elegance and richness, rendering it easily understandable why so many love writing with it. I'm sorry I didn't order it, but I look forward to experimenting with different brands and color inks. For me, the ability to experiment with a multitude of is the joy of owning a FP!

vitix · 6 April 2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

What a great color, Victor. That burgundy has an elegance and richness, rendering it easily understandable why so many love writing with it. I'm sorry I didn't order it, but I look forward to experimenting with different brands and color inks. For me, the ability to experiment with a multitude of is the joy of owning a FP!

Gracias Faith, it is very nice, the reason i order it it for some invitations that my wife was doing, but i get to keep it after it!! jajaj i love it!!

daveathall · 10 April 2010, 07:20 PM

I got this, this morning.

A drop of Storm (Left) Noodlers Blue/Black (Right)

Lion · 10 April 2010, 11:33 PM

Dave, very nice color I really like it. Now you guys have got to stop showing me all these different really cool inks because I want to buy them all and a separate pen to put each one into!!! LOL!!!

shandy · 10 April 2010, 11:53 PM

Dave, that looks a great purple. It reminds me of J.Herbin, Poussier de lune only more saturated (a good thing!)

JBat · 11 April 2010, 02:47 AM

That's a great looking color, Dave.

sunburst · 12 April 2010, 12:22 AM

Dave, I like the shade of CARAN d' ACHE - Storm.

I like dark purple/black with purple hue.
My favorite so far is Private Reserve - Ebony Purple.

JBat · 15 April 2010, 03:30 AM

I don't have any writing sample up yet, but I did buy several inks this past weekend, Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue and Ultra Black, and Aurora Blue. I also have Aurora black on the way from FPH.

I have read a lot about the Aurora blue and it gets excellent reviews, so it was the first ink I used in the Arco (I kind of plan to make that my blue pen). It is a nice blue and I liked it after using it for a while, but it is a drier ink and it made the Omas write a bit on the scratchy side.

Ian suggested I switch it up and use the PR blue, as it is said to be a wetter ink, so that's what I did. Well, as much as I liked the Aurora blue, I love the DC Supershow! It's closer to a Navy blue than the Aurora, and it has a lovely, saturated look to it, and it shades nicely too (if I understand what shading means).

It also does flow very nicely from the Arco and the pen seems to be writing much smoother now, probably both because I've sorted out its sweet spot and because of the ink. I reallly love this color.

I inked my Chopin with the Ultra Black and I like it a lot as well. It's blacker than the MB ink I used before, and the Chopin writes buttery smooth with it. Suffice it to say, the early returns on the PR inks are very positive for me.

I'll get some writing samples up as soon as I can.

daveathall · 15 April 2010, 03:56 AM

Really glad that your Omas is writing smoothly now John,

I must admit that I never before thought that a change of ink would produce a different writing experience, another thing that I have learned from the fine gentlemen and lady that frequent this sub forum. Really looking forward to seeing your samples when you get the chance, I do like a black ink to look.............well black, deep black, some of the ones I have tried seem to dry grey.

JBat · 15 April 2010, 04:03 AM

Dave, it could be the ink and using it more, I'm not sure. I will say, that a true fine nib seems to be more finicky when it comes to ink and paper, and even the position you hold it in.

Lion · 15 April 2010, 07:32 AM

Okay, because I have no idea what it means but what is shading???

sunburst · 15 April 2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

I have read a lot about the Aurora blue and it gets excellent reviews, so it was the first ink I used in the Arco (I kind of plan to make that my blue pen). It is a nice blue and I liked it after using it for a while, but it is a drier ink and it made the Omas write a bit on the scratchy side.

Aurora - Blue has been an excellent performing ink for me.

My Pelikan M800 with 18C Fine nib lays a nice wet line and glides on paper.

TswaneNguni · 15 April 2010, 02:00 PM

MB Black at the moment for the 149 B nib.Also tried Parker Quink Black ...drier and more greyish.Prefer the MB ink.

Have Pelikan Brilliant Black and Aurora Black on order.

shandy · 16 April 2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Okay, because I have no idea what it means but what is shading???

glad you asked Leo!
Shading is when there is more than one tone of colour to the ink on the paper when written. To get the best effect it helps to have a more flexible nib but it still will be seen with a normal nib.
Here are some examples!
Diamine Blue has tones of shading!

Private Reserve copper burst too!

As does noodlers standard Brown

Notice the different shading in the strokes of the pen. I love ink with shading, it really makes ones writting sparkle!

Skullring · 16 April 2010, 12:38 AM

Ian thanks for the explanation on shading the Diamine Blue sample is beautiful. I guess your duofold has a flexible nib and that helps with the look of the shading? Great now I have something else to buy.

John I am happy to hear your Omas is loosening up. My MB is a fine nib and can be a bit erratic so I have been writing on some brown paper bags and it really has helped.

JBat · 16 April 2010, 12:54 AM

Ian, I figured that's what it was, but thanks for the explanation. I've been looking everywhere I can think of for the Diamine Sapphire Blue (any Diamine ink, really), but everyone seems to be out of it. It really is beautiful.

JBat · 16 April 2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skullring

Ian thanks for the explanation on shading the Diamine Blue sample is beautiful. I guess your duofold has a flexible nib and that helps with the look of the shading? Great now I have something else to buy.

John I am happy to hear your Omas is loosening up. My MB is a fine nib and can be a bit erratic so I have been writing on some brown paper bags and it really has helped.

Hi Phillip. I think it is loosening up, and I'm probably doing a better job of finding the sweet spot also. I think you have a little less margin for error with a true fine point nib, but there's times where the Omas is glassy smooth, and other times when it's not so much. I think it's a little finicky with regards to ink and paper.

But it is fun to write with!

shandy · 16 April 2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Skullring

Ian thanks for the explanation on shading the Diamine Blue sample is beautiful. I guess your duofold has a flexible nib and that helps with the look of the shading? Great now I have something else to buy.

John I am happy to hear your Omas is loosening up. My MB is a fine nib and can be a bit erratic so I have been writing on some brown paper bags and it really has helped.

Phillip, the Duofold is a Jr that I gave to a friend, that nib does not have a lot of flex really, my senior special and Nakaya are king of my flexi nibs

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Originally Posted by JBat

Ian, I figured that's what it was, but thanks for the explanation. I've been looking everywhere I can think of for the Diamine Sapphire Blue (any Diamine ink, really), but everyone seems to be out of it. It really is beautiful.

No worries John and I am so happy that the Omas nib is shaping up, some nibs need to profile into use and especially so fine nibs I have found!

Here are a some links for the Diamine ink, one is US based, pear tree and the other up here in Canada, I can recommend both Highly!

Pear tree
http://www.peartreepens.com/Diamine-Ink-p/7000-di.htm

Stylus in Edmonton Alberta
http://www.stylusfinepens.com/

Bertrams inkwell (looks like the Sapphire is in stock their if their checkout system is accurate anyway!
http://www.bertramsinkwell.com/catalog_c114659.html

Hope that helps!

shandy · 16 April 2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

Hi Phillip. I think it is loosening up, and I'm probably doing a better job of finding the sweet spot also. I think you have a little less margin for error with a true fine point nib, but there's times where the Omas is glassy smooth, and other times when it's not so much. I think it's a little finicky with regards to ink and paper.

But it is fun to write with!

John, I know I bang on about Clairefontaine but have you tried some? I know your a Moleskine fan (As am I) but I find it is a lot smoother than Moleskine especially with fine nibs!

6 April 2010, 01:43 AM	#39
Taffi Abernathy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Faith Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: TT DJ, SS DJ Posts: 4,053	Just contacted Pen City and they advised me of a new product, "Private Reserve's Ink Cartridge Kit," manufactured exclusively to refill empty ink cartridges. Ordered it along with a bottle of Noodler's Aircorp Blue-Black Ink. Noodler's also makes another blue-black, but the Aircorp version had more vibrancy. Didn't know if anyone else would be interested in purchasing the cartridge refill kit, but I wanted to pass this on. __________________ Sarcasm is my second language.

6 April 2010, 02:08 AM	#40
sunburst "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Joji Location: KY, So. Cal., NJ Watch: 16800 Posts: 979	I've placed an order for "Private Reserve's Ink Cartridge Kit" from ISellPens.com. They have "Private Reserve's Ink Mixing Kit" too. __________________ Rolex Sub 16800 Rolex No Date Sub 114060 Omega Speedmaster Professional Sinn 356 Flieger II, Sinn 556, Sinn ST-140 Marathon SAR, Marathon GSAR

6 April 2010, 02:39 AM	#42
Taffi Abernathy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Faith Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: TT DJ, SS DJ Posts: 4,053	What a great color, Victor. That burgundy has an elegance and richness, rendering it easily understandable why so many love writing with it. I'm sorry I didn't order it, but I look forward to experimenting with different brands and color inks. For me, the ability to experiment with a multitude of is the joy of owning a FP! __________________ Sarcasm is my second language.

10 April 2010, 07:20 PM	#44
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	CARAN d' ACHE, Storm. I got this, this morning. A drop of Storm (Left) Noodlers Blue/Black (Right) __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

10 April 2010, 11:33 PM	#45
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Dave, very nice color I really like it. Now you guys have got to stop showing me all these different really cool inks because I want to buy them all and a separate pen to put each one into!!! LOL!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

4 April 2010, 09:34 PM	#31
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	You do know that one can use a syringe with blunt headed needles to fill up the cartridges, and you can use as many colors of ink as you like?

4 April 2010, 09:45 PM	#32
Shangas Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Shahan Location: Melbourne, Austra Watch: 1957 Ball RR watch Posts: 312	2C's correct. I used to do it all the time...until I got fed up of cartridges.

10 April 2010, 11:53 PM	#46
shandy Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Ian Location: canada Posts: 1,724	Dave, that looks a great purple. It reminds me of J.Herbin, Poussier de lune only more saturated (a good thing!)

11 April 2010, 02:47 AM	#47
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	That's a great looking color, Dave.

12 April 2010, 12:22 AM	#48
sunburst "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Joji Location: KY, So. Cal., NJ Watch: 16800 Posts: 979	Dave, I like the shade of CARAN d' ACHE - Storm. I like dark purple/black with purple hue. My favorite so far is Private Reserve - Ebony Purple. __________________ Rolex Sub 16800 Rolex No Date Sub 114060 Omega Speedmaster Professional Sinn 356 Flieger II, Sinn 556, Sinn ST-140 Marathon SAR, Marathon GSAR

15 April 2010, 03:30 AM	#49
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	I don't have any writing sample up yet, but I did buy several inks this past weekend, Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue and Ultra Black, and Aurora Blue. I also have Aurora black on the way from FPH. I have read a lot about the Aurora blue and it gets excellent reviews, so it was the first ink I used in the Arco (I kind of plan to make that my blue pen). It is a nice blue and I liked it after using it for a while, but it is a drier ink and it made the Omas write a bit on the scratchy side. Ian suggested I switch it up and use the PR blue, as it is said to be a wetter ink, so that's what I did. Well, as much as I liked the Aurora blue, I love the DC Supershow! It's closer to a Navy blue than the Aurora, and it has a lovely, saturated look to it, and it shades nicely too (if I understand what shading means). It also does flow very nicely from the Arco and the pen seems to be writing much smoother now, probably both because I've sorted out its sweet spot and because of the ink. I reallly love this color. I inked my Chopin with the Ultra Black and I like it a lot as well. It's blacker than the MB ink I used before, and the Chopin writes buttery smooth with it. Suffice it to say, the early returns on the PR inks are very positive for me. I'll get some writing samples up as soon as I can.

15 April 2010, 03:56 AM	#50
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	Really glad that your Omas is writing smoothly now John, I must admit that I never before thought that a change of ink would produce a different writing experience, another thing that I have learned from the fine gentlemen and lady that frequent this sub forum. Really looking forward to seeing your samples when you get the chance, I do like a black ink to look.............well black, deep black, some of the ones I have tried seem to dry grey. __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

15 April 2010, 04:03 AM	#51
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Dave, it could be the ink and using it more, I'm not sure. I will say, that a true fine nib seems to be more finicky when it comes to ink and paper, and even the position you hold it in.

15 April 2010, 07:32 AM	#52
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Okay, because I have no idea what it means but what is shading??? __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

15 April 2010, 02:00 PM	#54
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	MB Black at the moment for the 149 B nib.Also tried Parker Quink Black ...drier and more greyish.Prefer the MB ink. Have Pelikan Brilliant Black and Aurora Black on order.

16 April 2010, 12:38 AM	#56
Skullring "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Phillip Location: Alabama Watch: Triple 6 SD Posts: 1,720	Ian thanks for the explanation on shading the Diamine Blue sample is beautiful. I guess your duofold has a flexible nib and that helps with the look of the shading? Great now I have something else to buy. John I am happy to hear your Omas is loosening up. My MB is a fine nib and can be a bit erratic so I have been writing on some brown paper bags and it really has helped. __________________ It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. - Antoine de Saint Exupéry

16 April 2010, 12:54 AM	#57
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Ian, I figured that's what it was, but thanks for the explanation. I've been looking everywhere I can think of for the Diamine Sapphire Blue (any Diamine ink, really), but everyone seems to be out of it. It really is beautiful.

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