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XavierM · 5 November 2021, 10:45 AM

Hi everyone,

A post to get your opinions regarding this kind of watch description.

https://greyandpatina.com/products/1...512-submariner

« This supports this claim that the watch was likely left somewhere as the light tritium radiation likely imparted and patina’d the dial »

I personally feel like this just another story to sell a watch with a humidity damaged dial as if it was something very special…

watchlovr · 5 November 2021, 12:03 PM

If you don’t trust the seller’s description and selling methods, don’t buy from them.
It’s just sales patter.

XavierM · 5 November 2021, 08:53 PM

Not thinking about buying anything from them just asking for others opinion regarding this kind of description.

Does anyone believe in tritium radiation affecting the dial like this ?

padi56 · 5 November 2021, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XavierM

Hi everyone,

A post to get your opinions regarding this kind of watch description.

https://greyandpatina.com/products/1...512-submariner

« This supports this claim that the watch was likely left somewhere as the light tritium radiation likely imparted and patina’d the dial »

I personally feel like this just another story to sell a watch with a humidity damaged dial as if it was something very special…

Nothing special some Tritium dials show more patination than others, watches from this time frame may show more patination than others. Some Tritium dials from the late 1980s on show little patination depending on use and if exposed to high UV light. Like the watch adds marketing making its something special, marketing today myself often call it brain washing.

FrenchBigCrown · 5 November 2021, 10:26 PM

Regardless... they won't be getting $16 large from me.

linesiders · 5 November 2021, 10:44 PM

Just trying to sound better than it really is.

The chemical compounds that glow when excited by tritium patinate over time, influence by son, dark, humidity, and the actual compounds they are made from - which itself has changed over time.

Dan S · 5 November 2021, 11:36 PM

Looks like similar damage around the outer edge as well and a LOT of rust on the sweep hand. For me, it's more likely related to moisture. But who knows. Overall, the dial is not appealing to me and the pricing is hard to understand.

1675-David · 5 November 2021, 11:55 PM

Looks like “light tritium radiation imparted patina” is the new moniker for water damage.

southtexas · 6 November 2021, 01:49 AM

$16k? Hahaha

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btinl · 6 November 2021, 12:57 PM

That dial damage should reduce the price, not raise it.

linesiders · 6 November 2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by btinl

That dial damage should reduce the price, not raise it.

^^^^^^ All of This

Tools · 7 November 2021, 01:29 AM

Looks like somebody has exposed the dial to high heat, likely to try and bring up some patina for the look.

It is a damaged dial and tritium has had nothing to do with it.

mineral · 7 November 2021, 04:08 PM

This is Lemrich dial from early WG 5513 (likely if check the back of dial to confirm) and most of them has spider cracking due to the paint Rolex used during that era. This one does not have spider cracking but is honest dial and I believe the water moisture has caused it.

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rootbeer7 · 7 November 2021, 07:45 PM

Rust would usually suggest water damage. Many older watches, particularly dive watches have seconds hands showing slight damage. This one in my opinion is badly damaged.

WiseRat · 8 November 2021, 08:24 AM

If the dial and hands have that much corrosion and water damage, imagine what the movement looks like... Its probably roached.

indianmachine · 8 November 2021, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mineral

This is Lemrich dial from early WG 5513 (likely if check the back of dial to confirm) and most of them has spider cracking due to the paint Rolex used during that era. This one does not have spider cracking but is honest dial and I believe the water moisture has caused it.

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What is a lemrich dial?

FrenchBigCrown · 8 November 2021, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by indianmachine

What is a lemrich dial?

Lemrich are/were a dial maker - like Stern, Beyeler and Singer, etc.

indianmachine · 8 November 2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FrenchBigCrown

Lemrich are/were a dial maker - like Stern, Beyeler and Singer, etc.

Good to know, thank you!

1665fan · 8 November 2021, 08:25 PM

Aka water damage

214270Explorer · 9 November 2021, 08:24 AM

Someone may have exposed the watch to high heat in order to dry out moisture.

5 November 2021, 10:45 AM	#1
XavierM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris, France Posts: 367	Tritium radiation…? Hi everyone, A post to get your opinions regarding this kind of watch description. https://greyandpatina.com/products/1...512-submariner « This supports this claim that the watch was likely left somewhere as the light tritium radiation likely imparted and patina’d the dial » I personally feel like this just another story to sell a watch with a humidity damaged dial as if it was something very special… __________________ Instagram: @vert_eternel

5 November 2021, 08:53 PM	#3
XavierM "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Paris, France Posts: 367	Not thinking about buying anything from them just asking for others opinion regarding this kind of description. Does anyone believe in tritium radiation affecting the dial like this ? __________________ Instagram: @vert_eternel

5 November 2021, 10:44 PM	#6
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,435	Just trying to sound better than it really is. The chemical compounds that glow when excited by tritium patinate over time, influence by son, dark, humidity, and the actual compounds they are made from - which itself has changed over time. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

5 November 2021, 11:36 PM	#7
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,979	Looks like similar damage around the outer edge as well and a LOT of rust on the sweep hand. For me, it's more likely related to moisture. But who knows. Overall, the dial is not appealing to me and the pricing is hard to understand. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

6 November 2021, 01:49 AM	#9
southtexas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,695	$16k? Hahaha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

5 November 2021, 12:03 PM	#2
watchlovr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: UK Posts: 252	If you don’t trust the seller’s description and selling methods, don’t buy from them. It’s just sales patter.

5 November 2021, 10:26 PM	#5
FrenchBigCrown "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: France Posts: 1,076	Regardless... they won't be getting $16 large from me.

5 November 2021, 11:55 PM	#8
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,025	Looks like “light tritium radiation imparted patina” is the new moniker for water damage.

6 November 2021, 12:57 PM	#10
btinl 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Watch: on my wrist Posts: 1,942	That dial damage should reduce the price, not raise it.

7 November 2021, 01:29 AM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,137	Looks like somebody has exposed the dial to high heat, likely to try and bring up some patina for the look. It is a damaged dial and tritium has had nothing to do with it. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

7 November 2021, 04:08 PM	#13
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	This is Lemrich dial from early WG 5513 (likely if check the back of dial to confirm) and most of them has spider cracking due to the paint Rolex used during that era. This one does not have spider cracking but is honest dial and I believe the water moisture has caused it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

7 November 2021, 07:45 PM	#14
rootbeer7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: london Posts: 5,983	Rust would usually suggest water damage. Many older watches, particularly dive watches have seconds hands showing slight damage. This one in my opinion is badly damaged. __________________ @imrootbeer7

8 November 2021, 08:24 AM	#15
WiseRat "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Watch: 126710BLNR Posts: 227	If the dial and hands have that much corrosion and water damage, imagine what the movement looks like... Its probably roached.

8 November 2021, 08:25 PM	#19
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,620	Aka water damage

9 November 2021, 08:24 AM	#20
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	Someone may have exposed the watch to high heat in order to dry out moisture. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

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