Batman vs Batgirl

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by David001

I do.
Along with the thousands (millions?) of people that associate the Jubilee bracelet with a more feminine look. That doesn't mean men can't wear it, it just means it's less masculine, in the same way that a YM is more svelte than a Sub.

Is a piece of steel being shaped in a more svelte way a bad thing?
It is to some men I suppose.

K

I’ve asked just about every guy I know in the last six months if they thought the Jubilee bracelet I was wearing was feminine and not one said yes. Millions???? Yeah no. I’d hate to see what people like you think of the presidential bracelet. that must be practically menstrual to you.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by rcambrid

I feel like anyone who wants to use the ridiculous moniker of “batgirl” needs to donate $100 to the forum for the right to do so...those funds will then be converted to wiskey for the rest of us that have to tolerate this BS...

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[David001]

I'm pleased to see that you guys have a sense of humour, sometimes watch forums can be a little dry and I wondered if this thread would get deleted, but here it is still and there are no death threats or insults.

Vive la difference as they say.

[LDN]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I’ve been studying watches for 40 years. I love them. I’m obsessed with time really. I’ve looked at every brand there is. One of my favorite brands is Rolex. Same as many here. I’ve been drooling over Rolex my entire life. I’ve seen the Jubilee bracelet thousands and thousands of times since the 1970s and not once did I ever even think of the word feminine when looking at one. I truly have no idea where you people come up with that. Some of the most masculine men I knew in movies and TV shows wore Jubilee bracelets on their Rolex. There’s nothing feminine about the vast majority of Rolex watches. There are a few feminine Rolex watches but those are very obvious.

This!

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Patton250

The term batgirl was invented by people whose feelings were hurt over the new BLNR getting a Jubilee bracelet. It’s meant as a derogatory term.

⬆️⬆️⬆️ Agreed!

[LDN]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

These are old school gender traits but typically masculine is tool focused and form secondary. It’s often simple, brutal, industrial with few frills.

The GMT Master 2 on Jubilee is colorful, shiny, delicately designed and travel-focused. I see it as a traveler’s watch; whimsy and style.

A Submariner is a tool to save your miserable life while doing dangerous hard work or military endeavors.

That’s just how I see things. I really like pretty feminine watches as well as “tool” style masculine watches. Just like I enjoy a pretty Ferrari convertible and a rugged off-roader.

Wow! This is getting quite complicated!

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by Patton250

The term batgirl was invented by people whose feelings were hurt over the new BLNR getting a Jubilee bracelet. It’s meant as a derogatory term.

Unfortunately for them this is the correct explanation. Also, these folks apparently spend too much time thinking about comic book heroes when they’re not on TRF

[Robf52]

I have the Batgirl. The name doesn't bother me, although I refer to it as the Batman Jubilee. I guess I'm secure enough in my masculinity to wear it proudly. I do agree the Jubilee seems more dressy than the Oyster, and it is extremely comfortable on the wrist. It's part of the collection and gets alot of wear.

[Bstewart]

Wow, I had no idea the derision this would cause lol! Even in the for sale section, the term Batgirl is used. Thanks for the explanations.

[jamescarter2a]

If Rolex itself says it's Batman and not Batgirl...

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by jamescarter2a

If Rolex itself says it's Batman and not Batgirl...

Wow that’s awesome. I just checked it out myself. It’s exactly as you have in your pictures. I guess that’s it then. Rolex themselves have spoken. Case closed. Batman it is.

[Dahh]

People don't like when they hear those names, but I don't see anything wrong with these names though

[eonflux]

Originally Posted by jamescarter2a

If Rolex itself says it's Batman and not Batgirl...

That is cool.

So will people now accept comic book hero nicknames?


"Hulk" doesn't come up with anything, but that makes sense since that model is no longer offered.
But "Kermit" also negative.
Same with "Bluesy".

"Pepsi" leads to the red/blue GMT.
"James Cameron" and "Cameron" lead to the D-Blue.

Obviously, someone at Rolex has decided to code those search results.
Will be interesting to see if more in the future appear.

[jamescarter2a]

Originally Posted by eonflux

That is cool.

So will people now accept comic book hero nicknames?


"Hulk" doesn't come up with anything, but that makes sense since that model is no longer offered.
But "Kermit" also negative.
Same with "Bluesy".

"Pepsi" leads to the red/blue GMT.
"James Cameron" and "Cameron" lead to the D-Blue.

Obviously, someone at Rolex has decided to code those search results.
Will be interesting to see if more in the future appear.

"Kermit" did come up with 126610LV when I tried it earlier today

Also found several others but I'll let you search for yourselves ;)

Good guess on Cameron, I hadn't tried this one !

[eonflux]

Originally Posted by jamescarter2a

"Kermit" did come up with 126610LV when I tried it earlier today

Also found several others but I'll let you search for yourselves ;)

Good guess on Cameron, I hadn't tried this one !

I tried "Kermit" again and this time it worked!
Had never thought to search by nicknames. Thanks for sharing that.

Hmmm, are Sesame Street nicknames any sillier than comic book heroes?

As for Batman vs Batgirl, I think much of the world would find spending so much money on anachronistic mechanical watches much sillier or more offensive than those appellations.

As for whether a Jubilee is more feminine, of course that's a matter of opinion.
But many people I know feel that way. Like my wife who chose a Jubilee bracelet for her DJ over an Oyster for exactly that reason. And multiple family members.

I have a GMTc LN.
If I were to get another GMT, I'd prefer Batgirl over Batman because I think polished links look better on a Jubilee.
Would have no problems calling it Batgirl.

[askdanny]

Originally Posted by jamescarter2a

If Rolex itself says it's Batman and not Batgirl...

Rolex site shows the closest thing to a Batman because it has discontinued the Batman. For Rolex there is only one steel GMT with a black and blue bezel. For the rest of us, the oyster-bracelet version of that GMT is still very much bought and sold on this forum — and very much appreciated. A nickname is an abbreviation of sorts. That’s why very few three-syllable nicknames survive in the Rolex world. “Batman-on-jubilee” defeats the whole point of nicknames. I’m sorry it offends 126710BLNR owners, but when someone says “Batgirl” I know immediately which watch he is referring to. If he says “Batman,” I don’t.

[Onikage]

What a ridiculous thread.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by askdanny

Rolex site shows the closest thing to a Batman because it has discontinued the Batman. For Rolex there is only one steel GMT with a black and blue bezel. For the rest of us, the oyster-bracelet version of that GMT is still very much bought and sold on this forum — and very much appreciated. A nickname is an abbreviation of sorts. That’s why very few three-syllable nicknames survive in the Rolex world. “Batman-on-jubilee” defeats the whole point of nicknames. I’m sorry it offends 126710BLNR owners, but when someone says “Batgirl” I know immediately which watch is referring to. If he says “Batman,” I don’t.

Well then learn the model numbers. They are different. Seems that would make most people happier here anyway since they seem to hate these nicknames.

There are two parties here. There are people that don’t care about the name and there are people that do. Seems to me a great compromise would be since there are people that don’t care about the name they would respect others that do and not use it. If you find yourself unable to do that it has to be more than the name. I think some people just like irking fellow forum members that actually own the reference.

[thenewrick]

Can't chose your own nicknames. Def Batgirl girl watch for feminine men. Nothing wrong with that.

[Onikage]

Datejust jubilee has been the businessman's choice for decades. I can understand those that think it's a little old fashioned but a girl's bracelet? Absolute crap Imo. Absolute crap and a stupid nickname.

[thenewrick]

It's just feminine that's all. It's pretty and delicate and style-forward. I prefer the Jubilee bracelets.

[David001]

Originally Posted by eonflux

As for whether a Jubilee is more feminine, of course that's a matter of opinion.
But many people I know feel that way. Like my wife who chose a Jubilee bracelet for her DJ over an Oyster for exactly that reason. And multiple family members.

Agreed, and having the term Batgirl means I instantly know which watch we're talking about, so it's just convenience.

Personally it wouldn't bother me if any of my watches had a female nickname. I've got no ego tied to it, hell sometimes I even wear my wife's Bell & Ross black BRS Ceramic.

[David001]

Originally Posted by Patton250

There are two parties here. There are people that don’t care about the name and there are people that do. Seems to me a great compromise would be since there are people that don’t care about the name they would respect others that do and not use it. If you find yourself unable to do that it has to be more than the name. I think some people just like irking fellow forum members that actually own the reference.

Dude, if you think it's necessary to have a safe space where some people can operate without emotionally breaking down if the Batgirl term is used then I'm happy to drop it.

[Baco Noir]

Originally Posted by eonflux

These nicknames are silly, but c'mon, would Batman wear a Rolex on a Jubilee bracelet?

No, but Bruce Wayne would. Batman would just ask his car or Alfred for the time.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Robf52

I have the Batgirl. The name doesn't bother me, although I refer to it as the Batman Jubilee. I guess I'm secure enough in my masculinity to wear it proudly. I do agree the Jubilee seems more dressy than the Oyster, and it is extremely comfortable on the wrist. It's part of the collection and gets alot of wear.

I’m in exactly the same boat!
I love my Batgirl

[Jamhot]

Once more, with feeling. FACT:The Batman nickname is derived from the black & blue bezel & the same bezel is still in use. FACT: The Pepsi nickname has not changed, regardless of its Oyster bracelet, Jubilee bracelet, Meteorite dial or white gold case.
Therefore, it is logical to conclude that the nickname is and always should have been the Batman. The forum has already informed you of the derogatory nature of the fringe nickname "Batgirl". This has nothing to do with gender but it is about consistency. That is why the Batman is identified as such on the Rolex site and that the Kermit is back. For all the trolls out there, are you going to come out with a new nickname when you put your Batman on a strap?

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by David001

Dude, if you think it's necessary to have a safe space where some people can operate without emotionally breaking down if the Batgirl term is used then I'm happy to drop it.

Safe space? If you knew me in person you’d realize how ridiculous that statement is being applied to me.

And the only point I’ve been trying to make as we try to stay friendly on this forum and since we know this term was created out of distain for the new reference and meant as an insult why continue to use it when it bothers some of the people that own one? Most of the people that use the term, several of the last few posts in fact, were done as an insult. I realize there’s a few virtue signalers in here as well pretending it’s about women but most use it in a bad way and almost everyone knows it now. Some people just enjoy perplexing other people I guess. BTW I don’t own one.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Bstewart

These are both nicknames for the 126710BLNR, right? Just wondering, as until recently I had never heard the term Batgirl used.

Yes these child like names are now used by many that are to lazy to learn the correct reference numbers for Rolex watches.

[David001]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Safe space? If you knew me in person you’d realize how ridiculous that statement is being applied to me.

And the only point I’ve been trying to make as we try to stay friendly on this forum and since we know this term was created out of distain for the new reference and meant as an insult why continue to use it when it bothers some of the people that own one? Most of the people that use the term, several of the last few posts in fact, were done as an insult. I realize there’s a few virtue signalers in here as well pretending it’s about women but most use it in a bad way and almost everyone knows it now. Some people just enjoy perplexing other people I guess. BTW I don’t own one.

Maybe I'm looking for humour in a place it isn't to be found.

The watch is beautiful with either bracelet, I thought it was a light hearted tease, but if some people genuinely are upset by it then obviously I've misread the situation.

I'm an ex-military guy and with an English sense of humour thrown in I think it's easy for things to wash over me.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by David001

Maybe I'm looking for humour in a place it isn't to be found.

The watch is beautiful with either bracelet, I thought it was a light hearted tease, but if some people genuinely are upset by it then obviously I've misread the situation.

I'm an ex-military guy and with an English sense of humour thrown in I think it's easy for things to wash over me.

Fair enough.