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worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 03:33 AM

Hi there,

Just got a gorgeous 118239 (plus factory bezel). The dial has a little tint of blue to it - it's more apparent in certain kinds of light. The merchant from whom I purchased it sold it to me as silver (I'm not upset, I like this look) and when I asked about the tint, he said upon further research it appears to be the "glacier dial". I thought the glacier was more blue, but apparently, that's ice blue. I just want to know what I have ... here are a few photos. Does this read as glacier to you? If not, what do we think it is?

Thanks for your help!

Colin10101 · 16 January 2018, 04:43 AM

It looks like the ice blue dial. That dial is reserved for platinum models, and since your watch is a white gold day date, someone has swapped the dials. I don’t think rolex will service it as is!

Are you sure the model number is 118239?

Tangier11 · 16 January 2018, 04:49 AM

I didnt think that dial was available on the WG. Am I wrong?

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tangier11

I didnt think that dial was available on the WG. Am I wrong?

It doesn’t look that “blue” in person. Almost silver. It’s DEF not as blue as ice blue. This may or may not be the original dial.

Jocke · 16 January 2018, 05:23 AM

That is not the dial for a DD in WG, it's made for the Platinum model. I have the same but with romans instead of diamonds.

I put it in my WG DD because I like that dial and with the fluted bezel it is awesome IMHO.

Here is my watch.

Click here to find out

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 05:24 AM

Interesting. Okay, so I knew the bezel was incorrect but not the dial. I quite like the look. Should I care in particular?

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 05:36 AM

Also I’m not going to send it to Rolex anyway as they will take off the bezel and charge me for a white gold fluted one.

Jocke · 16 January 2018, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by worldfamoussam

Interesting. Okay, so I knew the bezel was incorrect but not the dial. I quite like the look. Should I care in particular?

So long you stay away from Rolex you are fine. Enjoy your watch whatever people says about it.

Some will scream fake or franken but so long you are happy with it is the only that counts.

Boaters · 16 January 2018, 06:15 AM

^^^ Thats right and it is a beauty ^^^

MonBK · 16 January 2018, 06:23 AM

Looks like an aftermarket dial to me.

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Looks like an aftermarket dial to me.

Why do you say so? Got from Sant Blanc so would be pretty shocked.

MonBK · 16 January 2018, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by worldfamoussam

Why do you say so? Got from Sant Blanc so would be pretty shocked.

Color doesn't look right compared to an original dial.

RHIII · 16 January 2018, 07:20 AM

It is not uncommon to find aftermarket dials (and bezels) especially with diamonds or jewels on Day Dates as well as Datejusts.

More so with older 5 digit references I've found, but those models in particular.

crazycarlitos · 16 January 2018, 07:22 AM

AFAIK that looks like the “glacier” blue... which is more silver than blue.

Rolex changed that to “ice” blue (more blue than glacier) around the time dd2 or platona came out. Nobody seems to be able to confirm exactly when.

Both were only available with platinum Rolex.

AK797 · 16 January 2018, 07:26 AM

Can you take a pic where it looks a little more blue, the last pic is close to OEM but still seems too pale.

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Can you take a pic where it looks a little more blue, the last pic is close to OEM but still seems too pale.

Those are as "blue" as they get. In fact, I'd say on the whole it reads silver in most light. The photos make it look more blue. It's interesting.

Took to watchmaker at AD to take a look. He said it's definitely an authentic dial and not aftermarket, but he wasn't sure it was original to the watch nor whether or not it was "glacier". He said it's definitely not ice blue.

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 08:21 AM

Here are two more photos.

droptopman · 16 January 2018, 08:34 AM

Great looking watch. Most likely someone swapped the dial in. No expert on the difference between the "glacier" and "ice blue" dial difference so no help there.

Always liked the work Jocke did on his. Love the fluted bezel with this dial. If you like it, enjoy it and congrats!

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 08:47 AM

Looks almost identical to this one on Bob's that he has labeled as a glacier:

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-pl...-day-date.html

Best guess I have is this is a glacier, came off of a Platinum.

AJM914 · 16 January 2018, 08:51 AM

Enjoy it....as long as your happy i wouldnt worry

wildcat465 · 16 January 2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Color doesn't look right compared to an original dial.

Looks fine to me. Depending upon the light, the color changes from a soft blue to silver.

Chadridv · 16 January 2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Looks like an aftermarket dial to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Color doesn't look right compared to an original dial.

When you say aftermarket you mean a fake?

TacticaLCawacoL · 16 January 2018, 10:18 AM

I think it is a « bleu glacier » dial that comes from a platinum Day-Date.
It is beautiful.

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TacticaLCawacoL

I think it is a « bleu glacier » dial that comes from a platinum Day-Date.
It is beautiful.

Thanks! I know it's not correct to the model, but it has a little body.

mtgjr · 16 January 2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

When you say aftermarket you mean a fake?

I was thinking the same thing. There's no such thing as an aftermarket Rolex-branded dial. Those are called fake Rolex dials.

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mtgjr

I was thinking the same thing. There's no such thing as an aftermarket Rolex-branded dial. Those are called fake Rolex dials.

Well, sort of. I think there's a distinction between an authentic Rolex dial that has been refinished (not by Rolex) and a straight up "fake" dial that was never made by Rolex at all. But Rolex would consider anything modified by another party to be inauthentic. It's sort of a semantic issue.

In this case, I think we've established this is an authentic dial that is not original to this model and that Rolex would require it to be changed on a service. The bezel is the same thing, so it's not upsetting to me. I just get to rock a cool combo and enjoy!

fskywalker · 16 January 2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

That is not the dial for a DD in WG, it's made for the Platinum model. I have the same but with romans instead of diamonds.

I put it in my WG DD because I like that dial and with the fluted bezel it is awesome IMHO.

Here is my watch.

Click here to find out

Jocke: The ice blue is beautiful, but the cobalt / bronze dial DD looks terrific as well

OP: Beautiful combo! Am on the hunt for a glacier blue stick dial for my WG DD 18239, this is the look I want!

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worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fskywalker

Jocke: The ice blue is beautiful, but the cobalt / bronze dial DD looks terrific as well

OP: Beautiful combo! Am on the hunt for a glacier blue stick dial for my WG DD 18239, this is the look I want!

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You may want to reach out to John Rooney at First Class Dials - he may be able to find one for you!

Investr · 16 January 2018, 02:18 PM

Is that a men's or woman's model?

worldfamoussam · 16 January 2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Investr

Is that a men's or woman's model?

It’s a 36 mm.

16 January 2018, 04:43 AM	#2
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	It looks like the ice blue dial. That dial is reserved for platinum models, and since your watch is a white gold day date, someone has swapped the dials. I don’t think rolex will service it as is! Are you sure the model number is 118239? __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

16 January 2018, 05:23 AM	#5
Jocke 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,514	That is not the dial for a DD in WG, it's made for the Platinum model. I have the same but with romans instead of diamonds. I put it in my WG DD because I like that dial and with the fluted bezel it is awesome IMHO. Here is my watch. Click here to find out __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

16 January 2018, 05:24 AM	#6
worldfamoussam "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA Watch: Day Date II Posts: 481	Interesting. Okay, so I knew the bezel was incorrect but not the dial. I quite like the look. Should I care in particular? __________________ Day-Date II 218238 Ballon Bleu Rose Gold 2999

16 January 2018, 05:36 AM	#7
worldfamoussam "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA Watch: Day Date II Posts: 481	Also I’m not going to send it to Rolex anyway as they will take off the bezel and charge me for a white gold fluted one. __________________ Day-Date II 218238 Ballon Bleu Rose Gold 2999

16 January 2018, 07:22 AM	#14
crazycarlitos "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,906	AFAIK that looks like the “glacier” blue... which is more silver than blue. Rolex changed that to “ice” blue (more blue than glacier) around the time dd2 or platona came out. Nobody seems to be able to confirm exactly when. Both were only available with platinum Rolex. __________________

16 January 2018, 04:49 AM	#3
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	I didnt think that dial was available on the WG. Am I wrong?

16 January 2018, 06:15 AM	#9
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	^^^ Thats right and it is a beauty ^^^

16 January 2018, 06:23 AM	#10
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	Looks like an aftermarket dial to me.

16 January 2018, 07:20 AM	#13
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	It is not uncommon to find aftermarket dials (and bezels) especially with diamonds or jewels on Day Dates as well as Datejusts. More so with older 5 digit references I've found, but those models in particular.

16 January 2018, 07:26 AM	#15
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,232	Can you take a pic where it looks a little more blue, the last pic is close to OEM but still seems too pale.

16 January 2018, 08:34 AM	#18
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Great looking watch. Most likely someone swapped the dial in. No expert on the difference between the "glacier" and "ice blue" dial difference so no help there. Always liked the work Jocke did on his. Love the fluted bezel with this dial. If you like it, enjoy it and congrats! __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

16 January 2018, 08:47 AM	#19
worldfamoussam "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA Watch: Day Date II Posts: 481	Looks almost identical to this one on Bob's that he has labeled as a glacier: https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-pl...-day-date.html Best guess I have is this is a glacier, came off of a Platinum. __________________ Day-Date II 218238 Ballon Bleu Rose Gold 2999

16 January 2018, 08:51 AM	#20
AJM914 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: AJ Location: NY Watch: ♕ Posts: 6,761	Enjoy it....as long as your happy i wouldnt worry __________________

16 January 2018, 10:18 AM	#23
TacticaLCawacoL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Milky Way Galaxy Watch: Sunray/Meteorite Posts: 311	I think it is a « bleu glacier » dial that comes from a platinum Day-Date. It is beautiful.

16 January 2018, 02:18 PM	#29
Investr Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: LSU Watch: Constantly changes Posts: 3,815	Is that a men's or woman's model?

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