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Old 23 May 2021, 07:02 AM   #91
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Wow. How would they know a “flipper” ordered one
Both they and Ming (the other 10-min auction a few weeks back) said they would be reviewing the orders to exclude people who were registered multiple times or were 'known' flippers.

I don't know where they get such knowledge from. Surely any fool can just create a new Gmail or Microsoft email address or get a new one from their ISP ; everyone who wants to place ten orders will have ten friends or family members to take delivery, plus a home address and a work address etc etc, more than one credit card, more than one email address etc.

If they are a grey dealer, they can order the watch for delivery using their personal funds to their home address rather than the address from which they trade to make it look like they aren't ordering it to their trading venue.

If Kurono or Ming are legit going to get thousands of orders with valid payment, and then cancel hundreds or thousands of them, that implies they really don't want the hundreds of thousands or millions of revenue offered to them, in the name of morality, which is amazing for a small brand.

I'm skeptical though. I suspect they just want to be seen to be saying they discourage flippers because that's what the fans want to hear. If they didn't want people to flip their watch for more than MSRP, the two practical options are to have a higher MSRP or to produce more watches from each batch - both of which are easy things for a profitable watch house to do.
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Old 23 May 2021, 08:08 AM   #92
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In a private group it has been revealed that a large number of orders were by flippers along with some people that ordered more than one including grey market sellers and more than 75%(!) of all orders have been cancelled.
Sorry but I just don’t believe this. Kurono are sensibly being very discrete in regards how they are implementing the orders. I think most people making an order will get this watch particularly given the post sale information where Kurono split the timescales of delivery into percentages.
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Old 24 May 2021, 12:18 AM   #93
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Anyone know where are the watches shipping out from? It seems to be shipped out of Japan with special discount for Japanese residents.
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Old 24 May 2021, 02:42 AM   #94
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Anyone know where are the watches shipping out from? It seems to be shipped out of Japan with special discount for Japanese residents.
I believe singapore? I know someone in Japan that ordered one and total incl shipping was higher actually.
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Old 24 May 2021, 03:13 AM   #95
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I believe singapore? I know someone in Japan that ordered one and total incl shipping was higher actually.
That would make sense since Singapore is a huge logistics hub.
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Old 24 May 2021, 09:03 PM   #96
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I believe singapore? I know someone in Japan that ordered one and total incl shipping was higher actually.
Is this true? Couldn't find it anywhere in their website/faqs
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Old 25 May 2021, 04:19 AM   #97
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Is this true? Couldn't find it anywhere in their website/faqs
My credit card statements shows Kuronotokyo Singapore, and the charge was made there, so I guess it will be done from there...? not sure
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Old 25 May 2021, 05:36 PM   #98
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I am in Singapore and i am being charged for the taxes...
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Old 25 May 2021, 10:04 PM   #99
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I am in Singapore and i am being charged for the taxes...
I didn't calculate, but I assume it's just the standard 7% GST?
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Old 28 May 2021, 03:24 PM   #100
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Congratulations on securing an allocation of Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and thank you for celebrating two years with Kurono Tokyo!


We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from Mid-June onwards through August.
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Old 28 May 2021, 04:47 PM   #101
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darn i didn't get that email
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Old 28 May 2021, 05:22 PM   #102
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Congratulations on securing an allocation of Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and thank you for celebrating two years with Kurono Tokyo!


We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from Mid-June onwards through August.
Same here
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Old 28 May 2021, 07:30 PM   #103
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Same here
Exactly the same message on my end too
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Old 28 May 2021, 07:40 PM   #104
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For those that got the email whats ur order numbers around?
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Old 28 May 2021, 08:04 PM   #105
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Old 28 May 2021, 09:57 PM   #106
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Congratulations on securing an allocation of Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and thank you for celebrating two years with Kurono Tokyo!


We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from Mid-June onwards through August.
Got this email too!
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Old 28 May 2021, 11:32 PM   #107
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got the email as well! 48XX
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Old 28 May 2021, 11:48 PM   #108
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Congratulations on securing an allocation of Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and thank you for celebrating two years with Kurono Tokyo!


We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from Mid-June onwards through August.
My order was in the 43XX range so I freaked out when I saw this post and hadn't received my email.

Turns out, I did and totally missed it this morning. Need more coffee...

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Old 29 May 2021, 03:08 AM   #109
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My order was in the 43XX range so I freaked out when I saw this post and hadn't received my email.

Turns out, I did and totally missed it this morning. Need more coffee...

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Mine is in the 69xx range so not too surprised they haven't contacted me about shipping it yet!

I did get the order confirmation email through last week, so not worried about it. And as it's paid for (other than import tax/duty) it will be a nice present when it eventually shows up at sometime over the next year
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Old 29 May 2021, 03:53 AM   #110
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No email yet either -order 51XX
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Old 29 May 2021, 04:01 AM   #111
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I'm in the 4900's and I got the email.
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Old 29 May 2021, 07:30 AM   #112
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Congrats to all who got the email. I'm ok with waiting being closer to 6900. Anticipation and all that... Happy Friday, all.
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Old 29 May 2021, 12:40 PM   #113
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I got the same emal i.e. from june to aug... That's quite a big range actually. Nonetheless, just keep waiting.
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Old 29 May 2021, 03:43 PM   #114
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We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from Mid-June onwards through August.[/I]
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Got this email too!
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I'm in the 4900's and I got the email.
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I got the same emal i.e. from june to aug... That's quite a big range actually. Nonetheless, just keep waiting.
Congrats gents. Mine is 59xx and this means I will receive after Sep. Enjoy yours!
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Old 29 May 2021, 09:49 PM   #115
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No email here, Im not sure but I think I read somewhere that previous kurono's owners will receive theirs first?
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Old 1 June 2021, 02:31 AM   #116
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High 4900's and received email today with estimate between Sept & October.
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Old 1 June 2021, 02:32 AM   #117
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Congratulations on securing an allocation of Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and thank you for celebrating two years with Kurono Tokyo!

We are pleased to inform you that your order for Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki will most likely be shipped out from September onwards through October.

We are unable to provide an exact delivery date but please rest assured that you will receive an email along with a tracking number when your watch is ready to be shipped out to you. All orders will be shipped out according to invoice queue number and we will not be accomodating early shipment requests to ensure fairness to all customers.

The Kurono team will be happy to help you arrange for a change of shipping address if the need arises. Send us an email at info@kuronotokyo.com with your order number and updated shipping address, and we will make the necessary changes for you.

We hope you look forward to receiving your Anniversary 朱鷺:Toki and again, we thank you for celebrating Kurono's second-anniversary! We are ever grateful for your continued support.

*Please note that the above time slot may face manufacturing delays depending on the Covid-19 situation here in Japan, and may also be subject to logistical delays depending on the situation in your home country.

Please email us anytime at info@kuronotokyo.com or on Instagram @kuronotokyo if you need further assistance.


Just got my email from them today. My order is number is #56xx
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Old 1 June 2021, 04:06 PM   #118
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Old 1 June 2021, 05:50 PM   #119
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Nov - Dec for me
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Old 1 June 2021, 11:19 PM   #120
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Nov to Dec timeframe for me as well.

Sigh. A bit disappointed considering I got in at the 3 mins mark (order 58xx) and expected to receive these earlier. Part of me now wonders about how this is more like a kickstarter campaign (which I guess many microbrands really are) where money is collected upfront with the promise of later delivery. Still, I never envisioned waiting 6 months, possibly even till early next year (the mail talks about potential delays, which almost seems to be preparing us for the inevitable). Who knows where the world (or I) will be by then!
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