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Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 08:31 AM

Moving the 14060M for a 214270 MKII.

I've got a lot of divers and find the matte dial / layout of the mk2 awesome.

Everyone also has a Sub - there are three in my office.

So, hit me with some motivation one way or the other.

blufinz52 · 20 February 2019, 08:33 AM

Sounds to me like you've already motivated yourself on this...the 214270 is a great watch.

travisb · 20 February 2019, 08:36 AM

Is adding an option? The Sub is hard to bet against yet the new Exp is spot on.

subprimero · 20 February 2019, 08:45 AM

What about selling one or more of the other divers? The Sub is the quintessential diver.
Try to keep it if you can. Co-workers come and go, good taste doesn't.

Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisb

Is adding an option? The Sub is hard to bet against yet the new Exp is spot on.

Yes, but would need to move other pieces which I enjoy.

These are my go to divers if you will and honestly the AR coating and matte dial cause me to lean towards the MKII more often than the Sub for daily wear.

I do enjoy the 14060M a lot and it narrowly beat out the Explorer when I jumped into the deep end of the money pit.

Pics always help:

with the latest addition

With the MKII LRRP

I'm thinking the variety might spice up the diver heavy collection.

travisb · 20 February 2019, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

Yes, but would need to move other pieces which I enjoy.

These are my go to divers if you will and honestly the AR coating and matte dial cause me to lean towards the MKII more often than the Sub for daily wear.

I do enjoy the 14060M a lot and it narrowly beat out the Explorer when I jumped into the deep end of the money pit.

Pics always help:

with the latest addition

With the MKII LRRP

I'm thinking the variety might spice up the diver heavy collection.

Sweet Omega and I'm a big fan of MKII but the 14060 + Exp would set you straight.

dr35mm · 20 February 2019, 08:49 AM

Who cares that “everyone” has a sub? Buy what you like and will enjoy, not based on the opinion of others.

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Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr35mm

Who cares that “everyone” has a sub? Buy what you like and will enjoy, not based on the opinion of others.

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Completely understand - and agree.

I drive a F150 like 2/3 of this country cause I liked it over the competition.

You have strong logic!

JR16 · 20 February 2019, 10:03 AM

I own both and love both. Would do what you need to to add the exp rather than trade

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georgekart · 20 February 2019, 10:17 AM

I'd go for it. I really like design of Explorer lately as well.

ink3027 · 20 February 2019, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

Moving the 14060M for a 214270 MKII.

I've got a lot of divers and find the matte dial / layout of the mk2 awesome.

Everyone also has a Sub - there are three in my office.

So, hit me with some motivation one way or the other.

Coincidental you mention this -- not sure if you remember, but I messaged you a couple of times about straps for the 14060M (mine was a two liner). Well, I sold it recently and am getting a brand new 214270 from an AD next week.

The Sub is a beautiful watch in all references, but I'm really looking forward to the matte dial, simple layout, and case shape of the 214270.

Good luck with whatever you decide

Ssunnylee24 · 20 February 2019, 10:30 AM

Hope this helps!

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1mlee0916 · 20 February 2019, 10:34 AM

I have an explorer for everyday wear to the office. Weekends and vacay time, my soon to be sub! (Been told a few more weeks)

Get both!

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mailman · 20 February 2019, 10:40 AM

Tough call as both are great models. If your 14060M were a 2 liner I'd go 214270 all day. Seeing how it's a 4 liner it's a coin flip.

carlhaluss · 20 February 2019, 10:50 AM

Man, that is a difficult decision. I know I would be reluctant to sell the 14060. I have the Explorer 1 Mark II and am now waiting to receive my 114060 which is on order. I am wondering, when I get the 114060, if the Explorer will get wrist time? You might want to consider that. Once the 14060 is gone......

On the other hand, it is pretty difficult to talk anyone out of the Explorer!

Wish I could be more helpful with your decision.

Cheers,
Carl

Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 10:53 AM

The one major thing holding me back is that while the dial is matte - the bezel seems to be a light magnet.

My 14060M is well worn and the shine has been knocked down which I like.

ink3027 · 20 February 2019, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

The one major thing holding me back is that while the dial is matte - the bezel seems to be a light magnet.

My 14060M is well worn and the shine has been knocked down which I like.

You're not afraid to mod watches -- have someone brush the bezel. Or, just wear it for a bit, get some scratches, and problem solved

Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink3027

You're not afraid to mod watches -- have someone brush the bezel. Or, just wear it for a bit, get some scratches, and problem solved

Might be onto something here.

HogwldFLTR · 20 February 2019, 12:36 PM

Both great watches. I'd personally go with the more modern Exp.

brandrea · 20 February 2019, 12:38 PM

In this case I prefer the Explorer

904VT · 20 February 2019, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

Moving the 14060M for a 214270 MKII.

I've got a lot of divers and find the matte dial / layout of the mk2 awesome.

Everyone also has a Sub - there are three in my office.

So, hit me with some motivation one way or the other.

Hopefully one of the 3 is owned by the boss, otherwise I have a feeling raises may be lower next year

Finslayer83 · 20 February 2019, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904VT

Hopefully one of the 3 is owned by the boss, otherwise I have a feeling raises may be lower next year

It is actually.

116610.

glamorama · 20 February 2019, 05:05 PM

Tough one if you would buy without having either. Considering what else you have and mate dial preference the Explorer would be the one you would add in that case. However since you have the sub don't think it's worth swapping unless you get a very good deal.

If ready to spend more $, go for a SD4K 116600. Mate dial and date but no cyclops.

bayerische · 20 February 2019, 05:07 PM

Wouldn't do it.

1William · 20 February 2019, 11:27 PM

I prefer the Submariner. If you could get both into the collection at the same time you will know very quickly what you should do. If not, I would sit tight.

droptopman · 20 February 2019, 11:51 PM

Subs rule, so for me I would move the others and keep the Sub and add the EXP

watchwatcher · 21 February 2019, 12:00 AM

Not really a fan of either, but if you're determined to get the Explorer, I would flip the Omega for it before the sub.

My two cents.

037 · 21 February 2019, 12:09 AM

Tough call. The LV hands mod makes your Sub quite unique even in a sea of other Subs. I'd keep that and add the Explorer, then dump the Omega and MKII.

Does everyone in your office have a 14060M or different models of Sub?

dafuture · 21 February 2019, 12:17 AM

I prefer the Explorer personally. The 14060 is a great watch, but the dial and more modern bracelet win out for me.

Dr Watches · 21 February 2019, 12:24 AM

Get rid of the MKII. Yao is a conman and that's just a Chinese homage with some BS marketing attached.

20 February 2019, 08:31 AM	#1
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	Talk me into or out of... Moving the 14060M for a 214270 MKII. I've got a lot of divers and find the matte dial / layout of the mk2 awesome. Everyone also has a Sub - there are three in my office. So, hit me with some motivation one way or the other.

20 February 2019, 08:49 AM	#7
dr35mm "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: Peter Location: Caribbean Watch: BB58 Posts: 2,398	Who cares that “everyone” has a sub? Buy what you like and will enjoy, not based on the opinion of others. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Present: BB58 \| BB36 \| GMW-B5000D-1JF \| 6900-PT80 Past: 16610LN \| 16622 \| 116610LN \| 214270

20 February 2019, 10:40 AM	#14
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,359	Tough call as both are great models. If your 14060M were a 2 liner I'd go 214270 all day. Seeing how it's a 4 liner it's a coin flip. __________________ JJ

20 February 2019, 10:50 AM	#15
carlhaluss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Carl Location: Vancouver, Canada Watch: Rolex Explorer 1 Posts: 1,780	Man, that is a difficult decision. I know I would be reluctant to sell the 14060. I have the Explorer 1 Mark II and am now waiting to receive my 114060 which is on order. I am wondering, when I get the 114060, if the Explorer will get wrist time? You might want to consider that. Once the 14060 is gone...... On the other hand, it is pretty difficult to talk anyone out of the Explorer! Wish I could be more helpful with your decision. Cheers, Carl __________________ Those who possess a sense of entitlement are seldom satisfied.

20 February 2019, 12:36 PM	#19
HogwldFLTR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: What's on my wrist Posts: 33,256	Both great watches. I'd personally go with the more modern Exp. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

20 February 2019, 08:33 AM	#2
blufinz52 Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: NH Watch: 116400GV 124060 Posts: 1,170	Sounds to me like you've already motivated yourself on this...the 214270 is a great watch.

20 February 2019, 08:36 AM	#3
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,211	Is adding an option? The Sub is hard to bet against yet the new Exp is spot on.

20 February 2019, 08:45 AM	#4
subprimero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: John Location: Texas Watch: 14060 Posts: 3,431	What about selling one or more of the other divers? The Sub is the quintessential diver. Try to keep it if you can. Co-workers come and go, good taste doesn't.

20 February 2019, 10:03 AM	#9
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,186	I own both and love both. Would do what you need to to add the exp rather than trade Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

20 February 2019, 10:17 AM	#10
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,491	I'd go for it. I really like design of Explorer lately as well.

20 February 2019, 10:30 AM	#12
Ssunnylee24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Posts: 853	Hope this helps! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 February 2019, 10:34 AM	#13
1mlee0916 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: N/A Posts: 183	I have an explorer for everyday wear to the office. Weekends and vacay time, my soon to be sub! (Been told a few more weeks) Get both! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 February 2019, 10:53 AM	#16
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	The one major thing holding me back is that while the dial is matte - the bezel seems to be a light magnet. My 14060M is well worn and the shine has been knocked down which I like.

20 February 2019, 12:38 PM	#20
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,668	In this case I prefer the Explorer

20 February 2019, 05:05 PM	#23
glamorama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Dan Location: Benelux Posts: 1,919	Tough one if you would buy without having either. Considering what else you have and mate dial preference the Explorer would be the one you would add in that case. However since you have the sub don't think it's worth swapping unless you get a very good deal. If ready to spend more $, go for a SD4K 116600. Mate dial and date but no cyclops.

20 February 2019, 05:07 PM	#24
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Wouldn't do it. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

20 February 2019, 11:27 PM	#25
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,731	I prefer the Submariner. If you could get both into the collection at the same time you will know very quickly what you should do. If not, I would sit tight.

20 February 2019, 11:51 PM	#26
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Subs rule, so for me I would move the others and keep the Sub and add the EXP __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

21 February 2019, 12:00 AM	#27
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	Not really a fan of either, but if you're determined to get the Explorer, I would flip the Omega for it before the sub. My two cents.

21 February 2019, 12:09 AM	#28
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,171	Tough call. The LV hands mod makes your Sub quite unique even in a sea of other Subs. I'd keep that and add the Explorer, then dump the Omega and MKII. Does everyone in your office have a 14060M or different models of Sub?

21 February 2019, 12:17 AM	#29
dafuture "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 1,943	I prefer the Explorer personally. The 14060 is a great watch, but the dial and more modern bracelet win out for me. __________________ Current Rolex Submariner 126610LN \|\| Cartier Tank Americaine

21 February 2019, 12:24 AM	#30
Dr Watches Banned Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: NY Posts: 544	Get rid of the MKII. Yao is a conman and that's just a Chinese homage with some BS marketing attached.

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