What are my chances ?

[asrah]

So after nearly 2 years of visiting AP boutique and developing a kind of a relationship ship with SA I was finally offered a 15510 st that I am getting soon , this will be my first AP what are my chances asking for 16202 or open work as a 2nd watch after RO ? Even if that means waiting for another 2 years


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[messikens]

Originally Posted by asrah

So after nearly 2 years of visiting AP boutique and developing a kind of a relationship ship with SA I was finally offered a 15510 st that I am getting soon , this will be my first AP what are my chances asking for 15202 or open work as a 2nd watch after RO ? Even if that means waiting for another 2 years


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Try another 3-4 watches (including a ROO, code 11.59 and ideally a ladies watch) before any serious chance of a 15202.
Openwork literally no chance until you likely have 4-6 over several years

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by messikens

Try another 3-4 watches (including a ROO, code 11.59 and ideally a ladies watch) before any serious chance of a 15202.
Openwork literally no chance until you likely have 4-6 over several years

Don't burst the bubble!
Keep up the optimism OP! Definitely world changing mindset!

[huncho]

probably detrimental to even ask lol

[ts3]

Originally Posted by asrah

So after nearly 2 years of visiting AP boutique and developing a kind of a relationship ship with SA I was finally offered a 15510 st that I am getting soon , this will be my first AP what are my chances asking for 15202 or open work as a 2nd watch after RO ? Even if that means waiting for another 2 years


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Your chances are zero as 15202 has been discontinued a while ago. Chances as to getting a 16202 I have no idea.

[asrah]

Originally Posted by ts3

Your chances are zero as 15202 has been discontinued a while ago. Chances as to getting a 16202 I have no idea.

Corrected , I mean AP jumpo in any reference number 😅

[Vince_76]

Unfortunately very little IMO. Don’t say anything now imo. Once you pick up the 15510, wait a few months, then tell him “hey Ive been loving it, and am gunning for a jumbo/OW, is that possible”?

Just be honest. SA might make you buy some garbage, might not.

[mickyd329]

It all depends on the region of the world, but you generally will need several pieces in the collection before being offered a Jumbo. Here in the U.S. it requires APNA approval. A 15407 or 15416 usually needs a pretty extensive collection before being considered. Showing diversity with either ROO's or Code's will definitely help the cause as well as a new client to AP. Opening a profile under a wife's name and getting a ladies piece goes a long ways too.

Again, this is all dependant on region so I would at least have the conversation with your SA.

[Armis]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Again, this is all dependant on region so I would at least have the conversation with your SA.

Good point about the difference in regions, and just being open/direct with the SA.

Regarding wife’s joint account, are you able to see the wife’s pieces when logged into your account, or is that visible on the SA side only?

[AEV]

From my conversations, 16202 is around the 5th piece and the more diverse the collection across the different models, the better.
But that’s not a rule. Last year 50th anniversary 16202st were given to new customers as a first piece.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by asrah

So after nearly 2 years of visiting AP boutique and developing a kind of a relationship ship with SA I was finally offered a 15510 st that I am getting soon , this will be my first AP what are my chances asking for 16202 or open work as a 2nd watch after RO ? Even if that means waiting for another 2 years


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Always worth asking but as a second watch I’d say it’s not very likely at all.


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[Watchwoody]

You’re getting a 15510 as your first watch? Impressive.

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by Armis

Good point about the difference in regions, and just being open/direct with the SA.

Regarding wife’s joint account, are you able to see the wife’s pieces when logged into your account, or is that visible on the SA side only?

They are separate logins on our end, but its linked in AP's system internal.

[impactplayer]

I was wondering this same question on my end. I have a RO, ladies RO, two ROO and a Code. I asked my SA to add the 15510OR, 16202 and 15407 to my wish list, and I was thinking that would roughly be the order that I could acquire them in. Does that seem realistic?

[CV997]

I have purchased 4 Ro for my wife, 2 Code , 1 ROO, 4 Ro but still do not have any Jumbo, or any Precious metal Royal Oak. It is a long journey to your target.

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by CV997

I have purchased 4 Ro for my wife, 2 Code , 1 ROO, 4 Ro but still do not have any Jumbo, or any Precious metal Royal Oak. It is a long journey to your target.

Did you ask to have it added to your wishlist? Your collection should be extensive enough to get one.

[jts278]

Yep I agree with everyone above, but each person’s journey can be very different. FYR, I got a 26315st as my first piece and received a Jumbo 15202st as my second piece and that was in 2021 which coincidentally was the last production year of the 15202. So your relationship with AP, including your sales, boutique manager and above matters quite a bit in terms of allocation.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Did you ask to have it added to your wishlist? Your collection should be extensive enough to get one.

Your wish list is something you can update yourself on the AP website, you can choose up to 10 watches.


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[GW44]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Your wish list is something you can update yourself on the AP website, you can choose up to 10 watches.


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I did not know that Ash, I must have a look at my AP profile! Thanks

[l_chissle]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Your wish list is something you can update yourself on the AP website, you can choose up to 10 watches.


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I'm not sure that syncs with the actual system they use does it?

[Armis]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Your wish list is something you can update yourself on the AP website, you can choose up to 10 watches.
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Exactly…I was wondering why needing to ask SA to update/change wishlist when we all have access through our own accounts. This is the same list that my SA populates and refers to.

[impactplayer]

Yeah, I've always understood that the internal wishlist system used by the SA is different from the website wishlist that we can update unilaterally. Either way, don't think it hurts to formally update your SA with what you want when you see them instead of just relying on a website.

[m3tek44]

Congratulations with upcoming 15510…. That said obtaining 160202 as second is very unlikely. Enjoy the hobby

[CV997]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Did you ask to have it added to your wishlist? Your collection should be extensive enough to get one.

Have been registered for wishlist but still not yet receive allocation, do hope will have chance soon.

[AEV]

I am pretty sure the website and AP's CRM are not linked.

The only list that really matters is the one that is registered in the CRM and your SA is working towards.

[messikens]

Originally Posted by CV997

Have been registered for wishlist but still not yet receive allocation, do hope will have chance soon.

I honestly would have thought with your purchases (assuming all done via boutique and not grey and none of them sold/flipped) you'd be good to even ask for a LE / QP / Tourbillon... it's pretty extensive!!

As far as website wishlists, I dont think there's any link between the logged in "save your watch" and the actual wish list maintained in their CRM system. Frankly, I dont understand why AP has a website wishlist as it literally has no meaning...

As for the OP - getting a 15510 as your first AP is a really good start! That said, I'd expect them to "show your appreciation" by diversifying a bit (ROO, ladies, Code) before they would be inclined to offer you a jumbo. Won't hurt to ask in any case but I think you literally have zero shot on an openworked at this point unless your collection has several pieces

Good luck!

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by l_chissle

I'm not sure that syncs with the actual system they use does it?

Yes it does and they check your wish list when allocating watches. At least here in the UK that’s how it works.


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Yes it does and they check your wish list when allocating watches. At least here in the UK that’s how it works.


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Here in the U.S., the online wishlist is not of any use. The internal wishlist is what they go by. The wishlist with my boutique does not reflect on my online wishlist.

[messikens]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Here in the U.S., the online wishlist is not of any use. The internal wishlist is what they go by. The wishlist with my boutique does not reflect on my online wishlist.

Yep - literally told the same from my SA

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Your wish list is something you can update yourself on the AP website, you can choose up to 10 watches.

I play with the AP website wishlist from time to time, but I'm sure that in my case the only thing that counts is that my AP contact remembers what I'm looking for (i.e., not even the wishlist in the AP CRM is particularly relevant).