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GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 08:50 AM

I need some help in identifying my watch. It's a 1665 with double red writing. On the second line it just has the word Submariner and not the 2000.
I purchased this watch for $350.00 at a Police Auction.
Thanks so much for any help!!
Jeanne

TimeToGo · 23 January 2011, 08:52 AM

Welcome to the Forum!

Congratulations, if its authentic; otherwise, it was a waste of funds as I am sure they have an "as is" policy. Was the watch guaranteed to be authentic?

Post pics!

Clay · 23 January 2011, 08:53 AM

Pictures please.....

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 09:06 AM

How do I upload a picture? Sorry

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 09:12 AM

This is what I found about the watch on the web.

"The Unique Prototype Double Red Sea-Dweller/Submariner

Model No.: 1665 Circa 1967 Serial Number 1.7 million range.

I believe this dial configuration to be unique, well I have never seen one like it, and its discovery will help us all to understand the Rolex think tank behind the final version of the Double Red Sea-Dweller dial."

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 09:15 AM

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0012_1.shtml

This is the link with a picture of my watch without the 2000.

TimeToGo · 23 January 2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GENES240

How do I upload a picture? Sorry

Note where you have the picture saved on your computer. On the thread, click "advanced" and scroll down to "manage attachments", hit the "browse" button and locate the picture and download/double click. Then hit "upload" and Voila!

TimeToGo · 23 January 2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GENES240

This is what I found about the watch on the web.

"The Unique Prototype Double Red Sea-Dweller/Submariner

Model No.: 1665 Circa 1967 Serial Number 1.7 million range.

I believe this dial configuration to be unique, well I have never seen one like it, and its discovery will help us all to understand the Rolex think tank behind the final version of the Double Red Sea-Dweller dial."

That is the proper description for an authentic model that range.

Tools · 23 January 2011, 09:35 AM

If you have an authentic Rolex that you purchased for that price, then you are a very fortunate person indeed..

You should make every effort to ensure that it is authentic, then take special care of such a rare and valuable time-piece......

Rickster · 23 January 2011, 11:05 AM

If it's authentic I think you got the deal of the decade. If its not authentic you just kissed away $350. A pretty good gamble I would have taken. Post some pics here or take it to a trusted dealer and have it looked at to see what you got. I'm pretty excited to find out myself.

HL65 · 23 January 2011, 11:14 AM

I will just come right out with it and not beat around the bush--sorry not buying it.
Let's see the pictures--front-back and case sides--then perhaps I can cheer you on!!

Speed · 23 January 2011, 11:29 AM

I'm with you...

Mighty fishy!

EvEr34 · 23 January 2011, 12:08 PM

pics or move on.

Yazo · 23 January 2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvEr34

pics or move on.

Yep!

kyle L · 23 January 2011, 12:23 PM

Pics or didn't happen.

fusionstorm · 23 January 2011, 12:44 PM

Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

BB83 · 23 January 2011, 12:51 PM

Sorry to be snarky, but how many people come on this Forum and their 2nd or 3rd post is some amazing vintage they found for $200 and wow what do I have here...oh by the way, anyone want to buy it??

Seriously, you won't meet a lot of suckers on this Forum - try eBay...

Many apologies if I'm wrong, but these stories just seem awfully suspect! Please prove me wrong with pics!

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 01:10 PM

Here are my pictures.

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 01:15 PM

You guys are very cynical!!
I'm sorry about the lousy pictures.
Jeanne

TimeToGo · 23 January 2011, 01:16 PM

I think some folks may be eating their words on this one!

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 01:17 PM

I had the crystal changed, before I knew what I had, but still have the original crystal.
How dumb am I.

Clay · 23 January 2011, 01:20 PM

Looks like a DRSD, but based on the pictures, the case back is wrong....
Need better pictures of the dial to tell you more....

Racer X · 23 January 2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GENES240

You guys are very cynical!!

Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

Tools · 23 January 2011, 01:22 PM

the early Dweller/Subs didn't have a valve, hence, no inscription on the caseback...

If authentic, it's the find of the century.....

TimeToGo · 23 January 2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay

Looks like a DRSD, but based on the pictures, the case back is wrong....
Need better pictures of the dial to tell you more....

Could the caseback be a replacement?

HL65 · 23 January 2011, 01:23 PM

Need a better shot of dial--and yes vey cynical--as too many bs posts! What do case sides say--take bracelet off. I would take it to Andrew Shear since you are in NY and let him have a look at it.

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 01:25 PM

Thats were I'M CONFUSED. The back doesn't have anything written on it. Could this be a prototype???

HL65 · 23 January 2011, 01:26 PM

Take it to Andrew at ShearTime and let him have a look at it. You can google him and get his number.

Evergreen · 23 January 2011, 01:37 PM

That was quite an auction if its genuine !

It looks pretty good all in all. I find the crystal seems a little unusual in that it sits flush. These watches usually had a dome plexiglass, and if the crystal was a flat-top, it usually sits a bit higher. Could this have been fitted with a sapphire ? ( 3rd pic )

GENES240 · 23 January 2011, 01:39 PM

The caseback looks original.

23 January 2011, 08:50 AM	#1
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	Submariner 1665 double red I need some help in identifying my watch. It's a 1665 with double red writing. On the second line it just has the word Submariner and not the 2000. I purchased this watch for $350.00 at a Police Auction. Thanks so much for any help!! Jeanne

23 January 2011, 09:35 AM	#9
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,033	If you have an authentic Rolex that you purchased for that price, then you are a very fortunate person indeed.. You should make every effort to ensure that it is authentic, then take special care of such a rare and valuable time-piece...... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

23 January 2011, 11:14 AM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,376	I will just come right out with it and not beat around the bush--sorry not buying it. Let's see the pictures--front-back and case sides--then perhaps I can cheer you on!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 January 2011, 12:44 PM	#16
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23 January 2011, 01:22 PM	#24
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,033	the early Dweller/Subs didn't have a valve, hence, no inscription on the caseback... If authentic, it's the find of the century..... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

23 January 2011, 08:52 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,580	Welcome to the Forum! Congratulations, if its authentic; otherwise, it was a waste of funds as I am sure they have an "as is" policy. Was the watch guaranteed to be authentic? Post pics!

23 January 2011, 08:53 AM	#3
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Pictures please.....

23 January 2011, 09:06 AM	#4
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	How do I upload a picture? Sorry

23 January 2011, 09:12 AM	#5
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	This is what I found about the watch on the web. "The Unique Prototype Double Red Sea-Dweller/Submariner Model No.: 1665 Circa 1967 Serial Number 1.7 million range. I believe this dial configuration to be unique, well I have never seen one like it, and its discovery will help us all to understand the Rolex think tank behind the final version of the Double Red Sea-Dweller dial."

23 January 2011, 09:15 AM	#6
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0012_1.shtml This is the link with a picture of my watch without the 2000.

23 January 2011, 11:05 AM	#10
Rickster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: London, Ont. Posts: 666	If it's authentic I think you got the deal of the decade. If its not authentic you just kissed away $350. A pretty good gamble I would have taken. Post some pics here or take it to a trusted dealer and have it looked at to see what you got. I'm pretty excited to find out myself.

23 January 2011, 11:29 AM	#12
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	I'm with you... Mighty fishy!

23 January 2011, 12:08 PM	#13
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	pics or move on.

23 January 2011, 12:23 PM	#15
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	Pics or didn't happen.

23 January 2011, 12:51 PM	#17
BB83 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 375	Sorry to be snarky, but how many people come on this Forum and their 2nd or 3rd post is some amazing vintage they found for $200 and wow what do I have here...oh by the way, anyone want to buy it?? Seriously, you won't meet a lot of suckers on this Forum - try eBay... Many apologies if I'm wrong, but these stories just seem awfully suspect! Please prove me wrong with pics!

23 January 2011, 01:15 PM	#19
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	You guys are very cynical!! I'm sorry about the lousy pictures. Jeanne

23 January 2011, 01:16 PM	#20
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,580	I think some folks may be eating their words on this one!

23 January 2011, 01:17 PM	#21
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	I had the crystal changed, before I knew what I had, but still have the original crystal. How dumb am I.

23 January 2011, 01:20 PM	#22
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	Looks like a DRSD, but based on the pictures, the case back is wrong.... Need better pictures of the dial to tell you more....

23 January 2011, 01:23 PM	#26
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,376	Need a better shot of dial--and yes vey cynical--as too many bs posts! What do case sides say--take bracelet off. I would take it to Andrew Shear since you are in NY and let him have a look at it. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 January 2011, 01:25 PM	#27
GENES240 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 45	Thats were I'M CONFUSED. The back doesn't have anything written on it. Could this be a prototype???

23 January 2011, 01:26 PM	#28
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,376	Take it to Andrew at ShearTime and let him have a look at it. You can google him and get his number. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 January 2011, 01:37 PM	#29
Evergreen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W. Washington Watch: Blancpain FF norad Posts: 203	That was quite an auction if its genuine ! It looks pretty good all in all. I find the crystal seems a little unusual in that it sits flush. These watches usually had a dome plexiglass, and if the crystal was a flat-top, it usually sits a bit higher. Could this have been fitted with a sapphire ? ( 3rd pic )

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