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mr.nice_watch · 17 March 2016, 12:40 AM

Does this mean that those of us that have an ETA Movement struck jackpot because of its short production or pretty much we are screwed if we recently purchase the watch?

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travisb · 17 March 2016, 12:45 AM

Neither.
I don't see it having any effect on price and don't think anyone who has the ETA got screwed.

Boothroyd · 17 March 2016, 12:46 AM

I always purchase a watch for what it is at the moment, with no concern for how the model might be "upgraded" in the future. Invariably, they will all change over time.

It was pretty clear Tudor would drop a new movement in the Black Bay line up, but I prefer the ETA. Once the Tudor movement has been out there for a few years, I will consider it. (The new movement made the Pelagos slightly thicker, wonder if that is the case for the BB also).

And as it turned out, I like the face and bracelet better on the model I have. So no issues for me.

versatile1 · 17 March 2016, 01:02 AM

Years from now someone will want the ETA because of a personal satisfaction of having what they perceive to be a rare movement in that watch but whether or not that translates into becoming more valuable is yet to be told.
Both are good and always will be

D111s · 17 March 2016, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Boothroyd

I always purchase a watch for what it is at the moment, with no concern for how the model might be "upgraded" in the future. Invariably, they will all change over time.

It was pretty clear Tudor would drop a new movement in the Black Bay line up, but I prefer the ETA. Once the Tudor movement has been out there for a few years, I will consider it. (The new movement made the Pelagos slightly thicker, wonder if that is the case for the BB also).

And as it turned out, I like the face and bracelet better on the model I have. So no issues for me.

The BB now have a 'bubble back' so yes they will be thicker!

The new 36mm bb however has an ETA movement.

Boothroyd · 17 March 2016, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by D111s

The BB now have a 'bubble back' so yes they will be thicker!

The new 36mm bb however has an ETA movement.

Thanks for that. The current BB is as thick as I can handle, so that makes me happy I got the model I did.

ZeKe · 17 March 2016, 01:41 AM

Very interesting. In effect the ETA version was probably only produced in 2015 (released in October) for a couple of months. So Im thinking ETA BBN with smiley "rotor slef-winding" might actually turn out to be pretty rare. And if its thinner than new in-house; even better!
Looking foreward to seeing this play out.

Boothroyd · 17 March 2016, 01:51 AM

I hadn't really thought of it, but you are right. Essentially a 6 month (or less) model run for the Black Bay Black with ETA. I know they were not flooding the market with inventory, so a relatively rare watch. Glad I got one when I did!

Etschell · 17 March 2016, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by travisb

Neither.
I don't see it having any effect on price and don't think anyone who has the ETA got screwed.

the eta models will be collectors items most likely. on the contrary anyone who bought the eta will be sitting pretty in 30 years.

ernie2 · 17 March 2016, 01:55 AM

I don't know what other people think, but in my mind my BBNN with ETA movement was only produced for a few months. It is rare for me and I am not planning to sell it anytime soon

airchitect · 17 March 2016, 02:20 AM

Well my ad has a few of each current model in. Really thinking about snagging one as my everyday watch..... We shall see

motoikkyu · 17 March 2016, 02:51 AM

The Zenith Daytonas are not commanding a premium at this time: there are many around and fans seem to prefer the newer in-house movement. I chose the Zenith because I love Zenith movements: you've all gotten tired of hearing how one of my El Primeros is more accurate than a quartz. It is possible to develop a feeling for certain movements (I also love the Omega 751) while being a fairly unsophisticated collector like myself. Praise to all who love their ETA and all who love their in-house Black Bays/Pelagos.

red.earth · 17 March 2016, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boothroyd

Thanks for that. The current BB is as thick as I can handle, so that makes me happy I got the model I did.

Especially given the rivet free bracelet!! I tried a BB Blue on recently and it just looked too big for my wrist, which is both good and bad. Bad that it looked too big but good for my wallet

Interestingly, the North Flag has the new movement in and that looks notably smaller than the larger cased BB - I know because I bought one (and I absolutely love it).

KBM · 17 March 2016, 03:26 AM

One thing that is great about these new Black Bays with in-house movements is that they managed to pull this off without 27 lines of text on the dial. Yes, I'm looking at you, Rolex.

Tools · 17 March 2016, 04:33 AM

Sorry.. I can't help but laugh at this thread....

Tudor has used ETA movements for decades - and now some are thinking that, somehow, their ETA powered Tudor will be worth more because Tudor has revolutionized their brand with their own movements...

Ok, ok.... I'm done... maybe -----maybe. I won't hold my breath..

WS9D · 17 March 2016, 04:51 AM

I could care less about collectability. What I care about is my ETA BB will cost less to service in another 6 years.

GeeRam · 17 March 2016, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boothroyd

It was pretty clear Tudor would drop a new movement in the Black Bay line up, but I prefer the ETA.

I bought my Black Black Bay last month just in case, purely as I wanted the ETA, which will be my don't worry too much about watch and/or can thus be cheaply repaired by almost anyone.

terrywoods · 17 March 2016, 07:01 AM

The dial has also changed with the new movement

So the black bay with black dial with eta movement and the rose on the dial will be a pretty small production run

madmax21 · 17 March 2016, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Sorry.. I can't help but laugh at this thread....

Tudor has used ETA movements for decades - and now some are thinking that, somehow, their ETA powered Tudor will be worth more because Tudor has revolutionized their brand with their own movements...

Ok, ok.... I'm done... maybe -----maybe. I won't hold my breath..

I think this is a pretty funny topic as well, And I completely agree the ETA movement has always been used I don't think it'll ever be a collectors item

dominic.warren · 17 March 2016, 07:09 AM

I am a BBB owner and love mine. I am not to hip on the changes to the dial but on the other hand I've the in house movement. I will probably be getting the brass black bay as soon as I have an option. But as for the new BBB to much trying to make it a throw back for me.

bdex75 · 17 March 2016, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ks6pd

I could care less about collectability. What I care about is my ETA BB will cost less to service in another 6 years.

Maybe. Swatch group is starting to become notoriously strict on parts. Now there are a lot of ETA parts out there so it will be fine for a little while. But after that who knows.

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17 March 2016, 12:40 AM	#1
mr.nice_watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Giorgio Location: NYC Watch: Deep Sea-Blue Posts: 141	Tudor ETA Movement no longer on BBB? Does this mean that those of us that have an ETA Movement struck jackpot because of its short production or pretty much we are screwed if we recently purchase the watch? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

17 March 2016, 12:46 AM	#3
Boothroyd 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,185	I always purchase a watch for what it is at the moment, with no concern for how the model might be "upgraded" in the future. Invariably, they will all change over time. It was pretty clear Tudor would drop a new movement in the Black Bay line up, but I prefer the ETA. Once the Tudor movement has been out there for a few years, I will consider it. (The new movement made the Pelagos slightly thicker, wonder if that is the case for the BB also). And as it turned out, I like the face and bracelet better on the model I have. So no issues for me. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

17 March 2016, 01:02 AM	#4
versatile1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Nanaimo, B.C. Watch: DJ2 Blue Romans Posts: 1,980	Years from now someone will want the ETA because of a personal satisfaction of having what they perceive to be a rare movement in that watch but whether or not that translates into becoming more valuable is yet to be told. Both are good and always will be __________________ Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end. Life is a cruel teacher It will give you the test first and the lesson later

17 March 2016, 01:51 AM	#8
Boothroyd 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,185	I hadn't really thought of it, but you are right. Essentially a 6 month (or less) model run for the Black Bay Black with ETA. I know they were not flooding the market with inventory, so a relatively rare watch. Glad I got one when I did! __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

17 March 2016, 02:51 AM	#12
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,731	The Zenith Daytonas are not commanding a premium at this time: there are many around and fans seem to prefer the newer in-house movement. I chose the Zenith because I love Zenith movements: you've all gotten tired of hearing how one of my El Primeros is more accurate than a quartz. It is possible to develop a feeling for certain movements (I also love the Omega 751) while being a fairly unsophisticated collector like myself. Praise to all who love their ETA and all who love their in-house Black Bays/Pelagos. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

17 March 2016, 12:45 AM	#2
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,187	Neither. I don't see it having any effect on price and don't think anyone who has the ETA got screwed.

17 March 2016, 01:41 AM	#7
ZeKe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Watch: Grandpa's Tissot Posts: 733	Very interesting. In effect the ETA version was probably only produced in 2015 (released in October) for a couple of months. So Im thinking ETA BBN with smiley "rotor slef-winding" might actually turn out to be pretty rare. And if its thinner than new in-house; even better! Looking foreward to seeing this play out.

17 March 2016, 01:55 AM	#10
ernie2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Arnold Location: New York Watch: SD4K+BLNR Posts: 849	I don't know what other people think, but in my mind my BBNN with ETA movement was only produced for a few months. It is rare for me and I am not planning to sell it anytime soon

17 March 2016, 02:20 AM	#11
airchitect "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: KY Watch: A few..... Posts: 3,784	Well my ad has a few of each current model in. Really thinking about snagging one as my everyday watch..... We shall see

17 March 2016, 03:26 AM	#14
KBM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,386	One thing that is great about these new Black Bays with in-house movements is that they managed to pull this off without 27 lines of text on the dial. Yes, I'm looking at you, Rolex.

17 March 2016, 04:33 AM	#15
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	Sorry.. I can't help but laugh at this thread.... Tudor has used ETA movements for decades - and now some are thinking that, somehow, their ETA powered Tudor will be worth more because Tudor has revolutionized their brand with their own movements... Ok, ok.... I'm done... maybe -----maybe. I won't hold my breath.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

17 March 2016, 04:51 AM	#16
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,364	I could care less about collectability. What I care about is my ETA BB will cost less to service in another 6 years.

17 March 2016, 07:01 AM	#18
terrywoods "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 320	The dial has also changed with the new movement So the black bay with black dial with eta movement and the rose on the dial will be a pretty small production run

17 March 2016, 07:09 AM	#20
dominic.warren "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Someone Location: Somwhere Watch: Tudor LHD Posts: 1,001	I am a BBB owner and love mine. I am not to hip on the changes to the dial but on the other hand I've the in house movement. I will probably be getting the brass black bay as soon as I have an option. But as for the new BBB to much trying to make it a throw back for me.

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