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2ltdjorn · 26 October 2015, 08:46 AM

Hello.

I am new to the forum.

I just finished graduate school, and will be getting my first big boy check in November. I will be purchasing a "new" to me Rolex.

The watch is a 1980s Rolex Perpetual Datejust Jubilee bracelet. The owner purchased it from the original owner in the 1980s. No box or paperwork. The watch is only being sold as he recently upgraded. He is an older (70s) coin dealer with a solid reputation. The watch was recently serviced by Rolex. The asking price is $1350.

What are some thinks I need to consider in purchasing the watch safely, without risking to much financially.

The owner is agreeable to meeting at a dealer to authenticate. What is a reasonable fee to pay for this service by Rolex dealer?

Thanks,

Daniel

brandrea · 26 October 2015, 09:01 AM

Welcome to TRF.

The RSC in Toronto will authenticate for $100.

Old Expat Beast · 26 October 2015, 11:56 AM

Do you have any photos of the watch, and preferably the movement, too?

2ltdjorn · 27 October 2015, 01:29 AM

I have seen piece in person, he will send me pics today or tomorrow.

will update. thanks.

Speed · 27 October 2015, 02:21 AM

Sounds like you are just looking at buying a "Rolex" for the sake of having one.

Why not take a little more time...research the different models and latch on to one that you really feel drawn to Vs. simply trying to buy one you can afford (now) and going through all the authenticating business?

SoonerTA · 27 October 2015, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Sounds like you are just looking at buying a "Rolex" for the sake of having one.

Why not take a little more time...research the different models and latch on to one that you really feel drawn to Vs. simply trying to buy one you can afford (now) and going through all the authenticating business?

Solid advice!

SemperFi · 27 October 2015, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Sounds like you are just looking at buying a "Rolex" for the sake of having one.

Why not take a little more time...research the different models and latch on to one that you really feel drawn to Vs. simply trying to buy one you can afford (now) and going through all the authenticating business?

Excellent advice! Shop around and try them all on. There may be another model that catches your attention. The hunt for that one watch is half of the fun.

mjclark32 · 27 October 2015, 03:01 AM

Welcome. Post pics and members here will do the best to help you out

2ltdjorn · 27 October 2015, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SemperFi

Excellent advice! Shop around and try them all on. There may be another model that catches your attention. The hunt for that one watch is half of the fun.

I agree.

But I have been a window shopper for a while. My now watch is a seiko monster dive watch that I bought 5 years ago at completion of my officer basic training for US Army. I love the size and weight, and the watch has been around the world and to Afghanistan.

I just finished graduate school, age 30, with 0 debt thanks to Uncle Sam. So I won't be taking on debt to acquire the watch.

I fancy the larger submariner, but I stumbled across the datejust at a recent coin show ( I collect us silver/gold). The two tone datejust I feel is a nice dress watch without being to flashy.

I imagine this will be the first of a few.

2ltdjorn · 1 November 2015, 09:08 AM

watch in question…

thoughts, advice?

2ltdjorn · 1 November 2015, 10:52 AM

watch in question.

thoughts?

its early 1980s era

2ltdjorn · 2 November 2015, 07:07 AM

any advice?

Djcosworth · 2 November 2015, 07:17 AM

I posted pics and got no answers aswell mate :(

BNA/LION · 2 November 2015, 07:22 AM

I would pass on that watch. Save a little more money and search for a Rolex in better condition.

You can only have One first Rolex! Best of Luck in your search!

Rolextix · 2 November 2015, 07:23 AM

That watch looks like it's in desperate need of a complete restoration, however, looks legitimate to me.

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evdwal · 2 November 2015, 07:27 AM

Do you have service history? the bracelet needs work and if it also needs an overhaul at the RSC it will be another $2000 for the watch next to the $1350..

The model/size fits your wrist well, but I would rather save money and get one in better order (a bit later) then this.

You could come back to the shop every day for a few days, wind it, measure it and come back wind it again and measure it again (see if it runs decently enough). But still... the bracelet.

LuminousMaximus · 2 November 2015, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ltdjorn

Hello.

I am new to the forum.

I just finished graduate school, and will be getting my first big boy check in November. I will be purchasing a "new" to me Rolex.

The watch is a 1980s Rolex Perpetual Datejust Jubilee bracelet. The owner purchased it from the original owner in the 1980s. No box or paperwork. The watch is only being sold as he recently upgraded. He is an older (70s) coin dealer with a solid reputation. The watch was recently serviced by Rolex. The asking price is $1350.

What are some thinks I need to consider in purchasing the watch safely, without risking to much financially.

The owner is agreeable to meeting at a dealer to authenticate. What is a reasonable fee to pay for this service by Rolex dealer?

Thanks,

Daniel

Whe you say recent, you must mean like in the year 1988?

I'm confused, it doesn't look recent...?

Since your buying used Check our Classified Rolex watches for sale here! For an honest deal

2ltdjorn · 2 November 2015, 07:35 AM

good thoughts.

wife and i were at the mall the other day, stopped by the AD. tried a few on…

really liked the TT sub (bluesy) vs TT yachtmaster (blue face, gold bezel).

wife said ok. but I am taking it slow.

evdwal · 2 November 2015, 07:55 AM

Okay, you are taking it slow, and seems like you prefer a TT (the Datejust, the bluesy and the YM).. what budget are you looking at taking it slow?
Finding a TT for around $1350 in good condition will of course be hard to impossible, I guess the watch i question is "worth" it. But I would skip on it.

You are looking for help, so let us help you. What is your budget and what are your 'requirements' ?

2ltdjorn · 2 November 2015, 08:00 AM

budget would be 5,000 to 7,500.

like the idea of BNIB from a AD, but if I can get a reputable second hand piece and let someone else take the depreciation hit.. that would be ok.

cosmoliu · 2 November 2015, 08:12 AM

Then hanging out here in the Rolex sales section would be a good idea. I scoured the listings for about 10 weeks before coming up with the watch I wanted. Saved 20+ percent vs MSRP.

evdwal · 2 November 2015, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ltdjorn

budget would be 5,000 to 7,500.

like the idea of BNIB from a AD, but if I can get a reputable second hand piece and let someone else take the depreciation hit.. that would be ok.

Okay, 5000-7500, BNIB or preowned.

You want (mostly) sports or (mostly) dressy.

You want Rolex or also open to other awesome brands?

You want gold, TT or steel?

You want color (blue / red / yellow) or more classic (silver/gold/white/black)

You seem to have small wrists (what size circumference?) about 6.5" I think? What size dial you prefer? 36mm 39-40mm 42mm or larger?

You tried a TT YM and TT Sub (both 40mm) did they sing to you? what could be better?

Good luck, enjoy the voyage and the quest for your perfect watch! :)

Sublovin · 2 November 2015, 09:27 AM

I would disagree with what most are saying. Price seems reasonable and you could always throw it on a brown croc strap as well if the bracelet is too far gone for now. I think it seems like a very reasonable first but that won't break the bank, and you can upgrade later.

Watchgeek5000 · 2 November 2015, 10:55 AM

For now buy an after market two tone bracelet put your original clasp on it and for around $1300 you have an authentic Rolex that people will see and think you paid $6000 for. You'll be a Rolex owner for minimal cash, and in the meantime you can save for a newer one.

Toolguy · 2 November 2015, 11:25 AM

I think the best advice imo is that a watch /rolex is a very personal buying decision.

Imo the best advice is to visit AD shops..try on all models which appeal to you..read the watch review sections for the models you like..spend time in the sale section on trf..then go back to AD dealers for a final hands on filter...hopefully by then you know which model you like and maybe you may end up with the model you first posted about..if not...then you probably will have found what you are looking for...good luck with your decision and enjoy the process...girls buy piurses and well we all know what guys buy ( we all signed up for account on a rolex forum......)

EdipisReks · 2 November 2015, 11:53 AM

That bracelet is pretty stretched out. If everything is original, that price is quite good, and I would suggest a new bracelet (the bracelet doesn't necessarily have to be "new.")

Lordofrolex · 2 November 2015, 11:54 AM

The watch doesn't look so good. Will need some TLC

Speed · 2 November 2015, 12:56 PM

Pass

The bracelet is quite stretched. The gap between the hollow end links and the case are quite noticeable.

This model - while a "classic" would be a bit more appropriate on a Sr gentleman.

Again, IMO you are focused on getting a Rolex you can afford...with that goal in mind you will end up with a beat up, polished up watch.

Patience.

Chewbacca · 2 November 2015, 04:17 PM

congrats on graduating.

there's more potentially wrong with that one than good so i'd wait for your 12th payday and get a better one for about $500 - $750 more. better yet, buy a near new one. your first only comes once.

26 October 2015, 08:46 AM	#1
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	Need advice for first Rolex purchase Hello. I am new to the forum. I just finished graduate school, and will be getting my first big boy check in November. I will be purchasing a "new" to me Rolex. The watch is a 1980s Rolex Perpetual Datejust Jubilee bracelet. The owner purchased it from the original owner in the 1980s. No box or paperwork. The watch is only being sold as he recently upgraded. He is an older (70s) coin dealer with a solid reputation. The watch was recently serviced by Rolex. The asking price is $1350. What are some thinks I need to consider in purchasing the watch safely, without risking to much financially. The owner is agreeable to meeting at a dealer to authenticate. What is a reasonable fee to pay for this service by Rolex dealer? Thanks, Daniel

27 October 2015, 02:21 AM	#5
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Need advice for first Rolex purchase Sounds like you are just looking at buying a "Rolex" for the sake of having one. Why not take a little more time...research the different models and latch on to one that you really feel drawn to Vs. simply trying to buy one you can afford (now) and going through all the authenticating business?

27 October 2015, 03:01 AM	#8
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Welcome. Post pics and members here will do the best to help you out __________________

2 November 2015, 07:22 AM	#14
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,206	Need advice for first Rolex purchase I would pass on that watch. Save a little more money and search for a Rolex in better condition. You can only have One first Rolex! Best of Luck in your search! __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

2 November 2015, 07:23 AM	#15
Rolextix "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: . Location: . Watch: 228238, 4500v, 126 Posts: 771	Need advice for first Rolex purchase That watch looks like it's in desperate need of a complete restoration, however, looks legitimate to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 October 2015, 09:01 AM	#2
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,696	Welcome to TRF. The RSC in Toronto will authenticate for $100.

26 October 2015, 11:56 AM	#3
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,362	Do you have any photos of the watch, and preferably the movement, too?

27 October 2015, 01:29 AM	#4
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	I have seen piece in person, he will send me pics today or tomorrow. will update. thanks.

1 November 2015, 09:08 AM	#10
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	watch in question… thoughts, advice?

1 November 2015, 10:52 AM	#11
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	watch in question. thoughts? its early 1980s era

2 November 2015, 07:07 AM	#12
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	any advice?

2 November 2015, 07:17 AM	#13
Djcosworth "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: UK Posts: 19	I posted pics and got no answers aswell mate :(

2 November 2015, 07:27 AM	#16
evdwal "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Almere Watch: Pelagos Blue Posts: 98	Do you have service history? the bracelet needs work and if it also needs an overhaul at the RSC it will be another $2000 for the watch next to the $1350.. The model/size fits your wrist well, but I would rather save money and get one in better order (a bit later) then this. You could come back to the shop every day for a few days, wind it, measure it and come back wind it again and measure it again (see if it runs decently enough). But still... the bracelet.

2 November 2015, 07:35 AM	#18
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	good thoughts. wife and i were at the mall the other day, stopped by the AD. tried a few on… really liked the TT sub (bluesy) vs TT yachtmaster (blue face, gold bezel). wife said ok. but I am taking it slow.

2 November 2015, 07:55 AM	#19
evdwal "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Almere Watch: Pelagos Blue Posts: 98	Okay, you are taking it slow, and seems like you prefer a TT (the Datejust, the bluesy and the YM).. what budget are you looking at taking it slow? Finding a TT for around $1350 in good condition will of course be hard to impossible, I guess the watch i question is "worth" it. But I would skip on it. You are looking for help, so let us help you. What is your budget and what are your 'requirements' ?

2 November 2015, 08:00 AM	#20
2ltdjorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,100	budget would be 5,000 to 7,500. like the idea of BNIB from a AD, but if I can get a reputable second hand piece and let someone else take the depreciation hit.. that would be ok.

2 November 2015, 08:12 AM	#21
cosmoliu "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Norman Location: CA Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, ALS Posts: 161	Then hanging out here in the Rolex sales section would be a good idea. I scoured the listings for about 10 weeks before coming up with the watch I wanted. Saved 20+ percent vs MSRP.

2 November 2015, 09:27 AM	#23
Sublovin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,354	I would disagree with what most are saying. Price seems reasonable and you could always throw it on a brown croc strap as well if the bracelet is too far gone for now. I think it seems like a very reasonable first but that won't break the bank, and you can upgrade later.

2 November 2015, 10:55 AM	#24
Watchgeek5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brooklyn USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,622	For now buy an after market two tone bracelet put your original clasp on it and for around $1300 you have an authentic Rolex that people will see and think you paid $6000 for. You'll be a Rolex owner for minimal cash, and in the meantime you can save for a newer one.

2 November 2015, 11:25 AM	#25
Toolguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 58	I think the best advice imo is that a watch /rolex is a very personal buying decision. Imo the best advice is to visit AD shops..try on all models which appeal to you..read the watch review sections for the models you like..spend time in the sale section on trf..then go back to AD dealers for a final hands on filter...hopefully by then you know which model you like and maybe you may end up with the model you first posted about..if not...then you probably will have found what you are looking for...good luck with your decision and enjoy the process...girls buy piurses and well we all know what guys buy ( we all signed up for account on a rolex forum......)

2 November 2015, 11:53 AM	#26
EdipisReks Banned Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 178	That bracelet is pretty stretched out. If everything is original, that price is quite good, and I would suggest a new bracelet (the bracelet doesn't necessarily have to be "new.")

2 November 2015, 11:54 AM	#27
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	The watch doesn't look so good. Will need some TLC __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

2 November 2015, 12:56 PM	#28
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Need advice for first Rolex purchase Pass The bracelet is quite stretched. The gap between the hollow end links and the case are quite noticeable. This model - while a "classic" would be a bit more appropriate on a Sr gentleman. Again, IMO you are focused on getting a Rolex you can afford...with that goal in mind you will end up with a beat up, polished up watch. Patience.

2 November 2015, 04:17 PM	#29
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	congrats on graduating. there's more potentially wrong with that one than good so i'd wait for your 12th payday and get a better one for about $500 - $750 more. better yet, buy a near new one. your first only comes once.

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