Inherited a Rolex. I have reason to believe it may be a fake.

[Lunaerus]

I recently inherited this Rolex from my father. The information he gave me is that it is an 18k White gold Oyster Perpetual Day-Date Presidential Rolex, and that he bought it for around 30,000 dollars years ago. I was informed by a Reddit user that the numbers on the date look slightly off, and that the inner clasp is missing both hallmarks and the model number. Is this watch a fake? Any info you guys can provide will be helpful, thanks!

[AK797]

How's the weight, feel like gold?

[rollee1]

A reminder to you that this is not allowed here.
If inheritance wear it with pride, for authenticity go to RSC.
Closed

[Snow-Dweller]

I'm no expert, but I suspect your watch is good.

Look at the stretch on the bracelet (the out-of-focus part at the bottom of the pic)....looks pretty real to me!

[THC]

Any local jeweler, worth their salt, can remove the bracelet very easily and tell you the serial number on this model, and verify if fake or not.

Since it was your Dad's, do you see or know of any box or papers?

[2th_doc]

Whats not allowed here?


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[904VT]

$30k seems a bit high for a price paid for a day date years ago. The best way to authenticate would be a RSC, such as the one in Beverly Hills. Good luck in your search

[watchwithlove]

it is fake
there is no such dial

[Ouro9999]

More pictures, sides and botton

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[Knappo 1307]

Hallmark missing on clasp....

[GLADIATOR]

I suspect fake.
Please post a photo of the back, so we can see all 4 lugs.
A

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by watchwithlove

it is fake
there is no such dial

Are you talking about the stick roman numerals?

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/day-da...-id2493340.htm

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/presid...-id4870116.htm

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/mens-d...-id3565961.htm

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/bark-f...-id4094421.htm

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/oyster...-id5791732.htm

http://www.chrono24.com/rolex/day-da...-id1696984.htm

[Lunaerus]

Here are pics of the bottom/side. I also have a Rolex box, but it is from a different Rolex. I believe my father may have gotten it mixed up with one of his other Rolex boxes.

http://imgur.com/a/cxqBR

http://imgur.com/a/QH08q

http://imgur.com/a/htCHe

Here's a box of this case. I believe it isn't the original case this Rolex came in though.

http://imgur.com/a/u5CAR

[Lunaerus]

I was just told that the original clasp was damaged and that it was the only part that was replaced on the watch. I suppose that would explain the missing hallmark/model number if it's true.

I'm waiting for a moderator to approve the post I created with more images of the side/bottom.

[GLADIATOR]

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looking at photos

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Lunaerus

Here are pics of the bottom/side. I also have a Rolex box, but it is from a different Rolex. I believe my father may have gotten it mixed up with one of his other Rolex boxes.

http://imgur.com/a/cxqBR

http://imgur.com/a/QH08q

http://imgur.com/a/htCHe

Here's a box of this case. I believe it isn't the original case this Rolex came in though.

http://imgur.com/a/u5CAR

OK
Only the first two links reveal anything.
It appears to have three "conventional" assay stamps on the back, to me, do they look 100% genuine? Truly not sure, the 18K looks fake, the others too faint to see. I can not see a "Helvetia or St Bernard dog"

The 2nd link the crown appears to have 3 dots? This is reserved for triplock. The "President" is twinlock that never had 3 dots.

In my opinion still fake or mighty suspicious
Sorry
adam

[offrdmania]

Looking at the evidence, until pics of the engravings and movement are shown.. Im leaning towards either fake or a cobbled together piece with incorrect/aftermarket/fake parts.

[Lunaerus]

The crown 100% only has 2 dots. I'm sorry that wasn't clear from the photo

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Lunaerus

The crown 100% only has 2 dots. I'm sorry that wasn't clear from the photo

Thats a plus and is correct.
As I say, it does have 3 "assay" marks, fakes usually dont add all 3, but with those photos, the "jury is still out"
sorry
adam

[Lunaerus]

Is the only suspicious part of the watch the inner clasp that I photo'd in my second picture in the main post? I'm told that the clasp is the only part of the watch that was replaced, and there for may not be legit.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Lunaerus

Is the only suspicious part of the watch the inner clasp that I photo'd in my second picture in the main post? I'm told that the clasp is the only part of the watch that was replaced, and there for may not be legit.

No
From those photos and the bracelet the "jury is still out"

I (we) can not correctly see the assay marks!
I have fakes that look as equally close to yours
Adam

[AbsolutelyROLEX!]

Watch is real, you can tell by the colour of the metal that it is not steel or plated
White gold gives off a dull white colour especially the brushed parts

[datejust24]

The wach is authentic.

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by rollee1

A reminder to you that this is not allowed here.
If inheritance wear it with pride, for authenticity go to RSC.
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Why is this not allowed ? He is asking if it's authentic?


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[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Hallmark missing on clasp....

Rare anomaly but authentic on this particular f18000 clasp for a few short years imho Jason


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[crowncollection]

To the op looks ok to me


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[Lunaerus]

I appreciate all of the comments everyone! How much would it cost to take to get one of these clasps replaced with an authentic one with the model number and hallmarks? Would it detract from the value of the watch? How much is this particular watch worth after all of these years, is it worth it?

[Snow-Dweller]

Originally Posted by Lunaerus

I appreciate all of the comments everyone! How much would it cost to take to get one of these clasps replaced with an authentic one with the model number and hallmarks? Would it detract from the value of the watch? How much is this particular watch worth after all of these years, is it worth it?

Take/send your watch to an official Rolex Service Centre. They will give you a quote for servicing (which it more than likely needs) and for replacing any parts that are not genuine. Don't feel under any pressure....post the quote here on TRF and you'll get good advice on what to do...

Either way, whether you intend keeping your heirloom or selling it, you'll be doing the right thing.

[breitlings]

I would trust crowncollection it is very close imho, i would guess real.

[Lunaerus]

Originally Posted by Snow-Dweller

Take/send your watch to an official Rolex Service Centre. They will give you a quote for servicing (which it more than likely needs) and for replacing any parts that are not genuine. Don't feel under any pressure....post the quote here on TRF and you'll get good advice on what to do...

Either way, whether you intend keeping your heirloom or selling it, you'll be doing the right thing.

Thank you very much for your input. I do not plan on selling it unless I absolutely must in the future. I.e. Starving. I'm very relieved to hear that so many of you believe it to be authentic, as for a while I only had gotten responses that said otherwise.