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Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 01:32 PM

Hey guys meeting with these folks tomorrow based on the experts. I know what a cloned movement looks like but only if I see the balance wheel. Please advice

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 01:37 PM

More pics

RJRJRJ · 16 November 2018, 01:58 PM

$4500? Unless these folks do not have access to the internet, beware.

henrylee · 16 November 2018, 02:02 PM

The engraving between the lugs seem off.

watchwatcher · 16 November 2018, 02:04 PM

If it seems too good to be true...

Agree, the engraving looks off.

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:04 PM

I have purchased watch crystals from the seller in the past their dad was a watchmaker but something seems off. The clasp code matches that of replica BUT is period correct for the watch. I can’t find anything off myself and I’ve been looking really hard however I AM NO expert

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:06 PM

My concern would be it was stolen. And as much as I would love to buy at a phenomenal price I don’t want someone’s stolen watch.

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:08 PM

Also I asked for the serial number and they didn’t send it but replied to everything else

Chilly Coconut · 16 November 2018, 02:13 PM

The crown guards look off to me, as does the engraving between the lugs. Not sure about the lug proportions either. The price is WAY below market, of course.

Baco Noir · 16 November 2018, 02:13 PM

You could pay with a Credit Card, send to an RSC immediately and if it comes back stolen or fake, dispute the charge.

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:13 PM

Would it say 16610 t or lv?

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:14 PM

It’s for sale locally and cash deal.

Noah860 · 16 November 2018, 02:15 PM

That is an aftermarket case. The crown guards are not that of a genuine 16610T....but, unless someone recognizes otherwise, the movement looks to be a real 3135. I’m guessing this is a build using an aftermarket case, and sourcing other parts. But I’ve been wrong before. And even if it’s a build, it’s probably with about 4g maybe. Dial, insert, bezel, hands will run easily 2500, movement Atleast 2 grand. Be cautious here.

Noah860 · 16 November 2018, 02:15 PM

Engravings would be a 16610T

Chewbacca · 16 November 2018, 02:16 PM

That’s not the watch you’re getting. It’s also a few different pix.

Don’t carry cash.

kokota · 16 November 2018, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filmprolv.com

Would it say 16610 t or lv?

T. This indicates no lug holes.

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah860

That is an aftermarket case. The crown guards are not that of a genuine 16610T....but, unless someone recognizes otherwise, the movement looks to be a real 3135. I’m guessing this is a build using an aftermarket case, and sourcing other parts. But I’ve been wrong before. And even if it’s a build, it’s probably with about 4g maybe. Dial, insert, bezel, hands will run easily 2500, movement Atleast 2 grand. Be cautious here.

Thank you. I thought the case looked good and at best a build from parts. I’m ok with that instead of stolen or fake. I think I can get it for less than 4.

Chilly Coconut · 16 November 2018, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah860

That is an aftermarket case. The crown guards are not that of a genuine 16610T....but, unless someone recognizes otherwise, the movement looks to be a real 3135. I’m guessing this is a build using an aftermarket case, and sourcing other parts. But I’ve been wrong before. And even if it’s a build, it’s probably with about 4g maybe. Dial, insert, bezel, hands will run easily 2500, movement Atleast 2 grand. Be cautious here.

I don’t disagree with this assessment.

Fleetlord · 16 November 2018, 02:23 PM

Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass

Lol-x · 16 November 2018, 02:25 PM

Doesn't look right to me...its got my spider senses tingling!!!

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:29 PM

There was a thread on here recently the guy bought someone’s explorer for 1000$ thought it was too good and it ended up being legit. I was really hoping this was that scenario but I don’t have luck like that. Blessings but not luck. Something HAS to be off right?

Frakis · 16 November 2018, 02:33 PM

Red flag! The price is too good to be true.

Pass, pass, pass, pass!

Chilly Coconut · 16 November 2018, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filmprolv.com

There was a thread on here recently the guy bought someone’s explorer for 1000$ thought it was too good and it ended up being legit. I was really hoping this was that scenario but I don’t have luck like that. Blessings but not luck. Something HAS to be off right?

Replica case was the conclusion reached a few posts above. I’d say that qualifies as “off”.

Filmprolv.com · 16 November 2018, 02:37 PM

Thanks guys.

JoeyT · 16 November 2018, 02:37 PM

Very good replica with either a transplanted genuine movement or a clone with genuine bridge and other parts added to fake movement.

CorradoBrit · 16 November 2018, 02:54 PM

Crown guards definitely off, perhaps overpolished. The engraving looks weird as others mentioned. No one think cyclops mag is a little OTT? Absence of engraved rehaut?

Noah860 · 16 November 2018, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyT

Very good replica with either a transplanted genuine movement or a clone with genuine bridge and other parts added to fake movement.

Seems I may know you from somewhere else...haha

SS Oyster · 16 November 2018, 03:00 PM

Why don't you just ask why they are selling it at this price?

Noah860 · 16 November 2018, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Why don't you just ask why they are selling it at this price?

Duh, we all know the answer! Family emergency. His loss is your gain! Classic. Usually medical bills right?

JoeyT · 16 November 2018, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah860

Seems I may know you from somewhere else...haha

16 November 2018, 02:02 PM	#4
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16 November 2018, 02:25 PM	#20
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,237	Doesn't look right to me...its got my spider senses tingling!!! __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

16 November 2018, 02:33 PM	#22
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	Is this the real deal Kermit fs 4500? Red flag! The price is too good to be true. Pass, pass, pass, pass! __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

16 November 2018, 01:58 PM	#3
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,496	$4500? Unless these folks do not have access to the internet, beware.

16 November 2018, 02:04 PM	#5
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,479	If it seems too good to be true... Agree, the engraving looks off.

16 November 2018, 02:04 PM	#6
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	I have purchased watch crystals from the seller in the past their dad was a watchmaker but something seems off. The clasp code matches that of replica BUT is period correct for the watch. I can’t find anything off myself and I’ve been looking really hard however I AM NO expert

16 November 2018, 02:06 PM	#7
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	My concern would be it was stolen. And as much as I would love to buy at a phenomenal price I don’t want someone’s stolen watch.

16 November 2018, 02:08 PM	#8
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	Also I asked for the serial number and they didn’t send it but replied to everything else

16 November 2018, 02:13 PM	#9
Chilly Coconut Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: South Posts: 558	The crown guards look off to me, as does the engraving between the lugs. Not sure about the lug proportions either. The price is WAY below market, of course.

16 November 2018, 02:14 PM	#12
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	It’s for sale locally and cash deal.

16 November 2018, 02:15 PM	#13
Noah860 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England Posts: 246	That is an aftermarket case. The crown guards are not that of a genuine 16610T....but, unless someone recognizes otherwise, the movement looks to be a real 3135. I’m guessing this is a build using an aftermarket case, and sourcing other parts. But I’ve been wrong before. And even if it’s a build, it’s probably with about 4g maybe. Dial, insert, bezel, hands will run easily 2500, movement Atleast 2 grand. Be cautious here.

16 November 2018, 02:16 PM	#15
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	That’s not the watch you’re getting. It’s also a few different pix. Don’t carry cash.

16 November 2018, 02:23 PM	#19
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,915	Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass

16 November 2018, 02:29 PM	#21
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	There was a thread on here recently the guy bought someone’s explorer for 1000$ thought it was too good and it ended up being legit. I was really hoping this was that scenario but I don’t have luck like that. Blessings but not luck. Something HAS to be off right?

16 November 2018, 02:37 PM	#24
Filmprolv.com "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Las vegas Watch: 16014,2531.80 Posts: 85	Thanks guys.

16 November 2018, 02:37 PM	#25
JoeyT Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 221	Very good replica with either a transplanted genuine movement or a clone with genuine bridge and other parts added to fake movement.

16 November 2018, 02:54 PM	#26
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Crown guards definitely off, perhaps overpolished. The engraving looks weird as others mentioned. No one think cyclops mag is a little OTT? Absence of engraved rehaut?

16 November 2018, 03:00 PM	#28
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,800	Why don't you just ask why they are selling it at this price?

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