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Old 16 January 2023, 05:26 AM   #31
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Yes...you can extend the very next link (I think by 2mm) on each side of the clasp. Pretty comfortable and easy to use.
Does anyone know if this operates the same as the VC one? is there a way to accidentally pop it out or does it lock like the rolex microadjustments? I found the VC microadjustment extremely annoying
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Old 16 January 2023, 05:56 AM   #32
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Yes...you can extend the very next link (I think by 2mm) on each side of the clasp. Pretty comfortable and easy to use.
So it is still with the 7811R type. I think the new 5811 has the kind which needs a button to be pressed to adjust so it is less likely to pop accidentally.

Hopefully 2023 models may get an upgrade. I am eagerly waiting for my 5740 after 3 years of wait.
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Old 16 January 2023, 06:21 AM   #33
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So it is still with the 7811R type. I think the new 5811 has the kind which needs a button to be pressed to adjust so it is less likely to pop accidentally.

Hopefully 2023 models may get an upgrade. I am eagerly waiting for my 5740 after 3 years of wait.
Sorry, I should have made myself more clear...my 5740 (Sep22) has the the kind of clasp as you have describe above: you need to press a button and pull out the link in order to adjust. No chance of popping out accidentally. It's the same as the 5811.

Cannot take any pics at the moment unfortunately.

Fingers crossed that you will be getting yours soon!
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Old 16 January 2023, 06:21 AM   #34
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Sorry, I should have made myself more clear...my 5740 (Sep22) has the the kind of clasp as you have describe above: you need to press a button and pull out the link in order to adjust. No chance of popping out accidentally. It's the same as the 5811.

Cannot take any pics at the moment unfortunately.

Fingers crossed that you will be getting yours soon!
Interesting to see they made the change just before releasing the novelties in October 2022. Thanks for the update.
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Old 16 January 2023, 06:35 AM   #35
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Sorry, I should have made myself more clear...my 5740 (Sep22) has the the kind of clasp as you have describe above: you need to press a button and pull out the link in order to adjust. No chance of popping out accidentally. It's the same as the 5811.

Cannot take any pics at the moment unfortunately.

Fingers crossed that you will be getting yours soon!
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Old 16 January 2023, 08:43 AM   #36
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LOL. No way would I ever submerge a 5740 in water with those four corrector case holes regardless of whatever Patek says the WR is. Those stay shut tight by tiny springs which wear out very quickly if the watch is frequently set. They are frequently replaced in a 240Q service.
You do not need to believe me. Ask a watchmaker from Patek. They should be able to confirm what a nobody wrote on the Internet.
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Old 16 January 2023, 08:53 AM   #37
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60m WR is more than enough for any splash in the pool, river or even sea (including snorkeling) with your Patek, as long as you have had it checked from time to time and do not operate the watch underwater.

120m or 60m does, in this respect, not make any difference.
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Unfortunately That’s not how WR ratings work.
I wish there was a clear cut answer to this question. It seems to come up frequently here.
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Old 16 January 2023, 10:37 AM   #38
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I wish there was a clear cut answer to this question. It seems to come up frequently here.
Agree.

Would 50m60m be fine with a Snap back and push in crown?
Probably?


Would 120m be super secure safe and confidence inspiring with a screw in case back and a screw down crown? You bet.

For my money I feel more comfortable with the latter. Daily showers and pool and ocean. it is important that WR question doesn’t compel me to have leave watch in the hotel room … ever!




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Old 16 January 2023, 10:40 AM   #39
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Is it like the one on the 7811R or 5811?
I think you are referring to the 7118/1R as there is no 7811 reference.
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Old 16 January 2023, 11:30 AM   #40
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honestly, if you can either, neither can go wrong.
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Old 17 January 2023, 01:24 AM   #41
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How often are you 60m below sea level?
As I understand it a swimmers flailing arm swings whallop the water and this short burst of pressure can equal or exceed the 60m pressure measure… caution is required! It’s not really about depth which is an arbitrary/indicative measure.
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Old 17 January 2023, 01:58 AM   #42
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As I understand it a swimmers flailing arm swings whallop the water and this short burst of pressure can equal or exceed the 60m pressure measure… caution is required! It’s not really about depth which is an arbitrary/indicative measure.
Luckily it is a myth that the motion of your arms is an issue when it comes to a 60m rated watch being water resistant.

In short, the dynamic pressure from swimming is much, much lower than the static pressure at 60m. I did the math in my head a few months ago, see post #13 of the thread below, and Will_L has detailed the required formulas in #14.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=881061
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Old 17 January 2023, 02:29 AM   #43
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I think you are referring to the 7118/1R as there is no 7811 reference.
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Old 19 January 2023, 09:28 PM   #44
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Luckily it is a myth that the motion of your arms is an issue when it comes to a 60m rated watch being water resistant.

In short, the dynamic pressure from swimming is much, much lower than the static pressure at 60m. I did the math in my head a few months ago, see post #13 of the thread below, and Will_L has detailed the required formulas in #14.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=881061
Thanks for sharing that. Very detailed information.

However, I would not risk it though as the slap slap pressure from my amateur crawl stroke would terrify me as to even the slightest possibility of water ingress. Better safe than sorry… etc.
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Old 25 January 2023, 07:24 PM   #45
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Sorry, I should have made myself more clear...my 5740 (Sep22) has the the kind of clasp as you have describe above: you need to press a button and pull out the link in order to adjust. No chance of popping out accidentally. It's the same as the 5811.

Cannot take any pics at the moment unfortunately.

Fingers crossed that you will be getting yours soon!
wow, this is a nice change, any chance I can get/upgrade my bracelet with this?
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Old 25 January 2023, 07:34 PM   #46
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A thought suddenly occurred to me... the 16202or is selling for about 15% higher than the 5811. Suddenly the 5811 feels such a "bargain" at retail.
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Old 26 January 2023, 02:32 PM   #47
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I have always been a fan of the 5811G. I plan on getting one soon.
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Old 26 January 2023, 03:25 PM   #48
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I have always been a fan of the 5811G. I plan on getting one soon.
Sounds like you have been a fan for years... Oh wait, 5811 was just released 3 months ago.

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A thought suddenly occurred to me... the 16202or is selling for about 15% higher than the 5811. Suddenly the 5811 feels such a "bargain" at retail.
Fair point. Factoring in that 5711/1A retail was in the 20s a few years ago 5811/1G feels less of a bargain. I get the 1G but don't mind 1A in the least.
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Old 27 January 2023, 08:56 AM   #49
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Sounds like you have been a fan for years... Oh wait, 5811 was just released 3 months ago.



Fair point. Factoring in that 5711/1A retail was in the 20s a few years ago 5811/1G feels less of a bargain. I get the 1G but don't mind 1A in the least.

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