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btwistround · 23 January 2023, 10:32 AM

Anyone know of any upcoming independents?

I'm looking for my next watch and leaning more towards the indie scene. Looking for someone that's under the radar at the moment. Before they get hype exposure from the mainstream/ popular watch websites and influencers.

Ichiran · 23 January 2023, 10:34 AM

This group.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=886078

btwistround · 23 January 2023, 10:45 AM

thanks man

llngoc · 23 January 2023, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

This group.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=886078

Most of them are “well” known now. With the internet, it seems like even new young indies presold their first release before I even heard about it. I would love to be able to get a first run steel Remy Cools but now the ship has sailed. The second release in PM is just too much for my wallet. Happy to see independents are widely accepted now though.

btwistround · 24 January 2023, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llngoc

Most of them are “well” known now. With the internet, it seems like even new young indies presold their first release before I even heard about it. I would love to be able to get a first run steel Remy Cools but now the ship has sailed. The second release in PM is just too much for my wallet. Happy to see independents are widely accepted now though.

it's tough man. Especially for someone who is an enthusiast, but doesn't have deep pockets hoping to support and acquire a piece.

Ichiran · 24 January 2023, 01:16 AM

I highly recommend Romain Gauthier. He is not exactly "uncoming" but his Insight Micro-Rotor are still available for purchase. These are proper work of art and I am puzzled why they are still available. His finishing is up there with Dufour and Voutilainen.

unknown · 24 January 2023, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

This group.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=886078

nice but unfortunately all of them are unaffordable to 99% of us.

So my top 3 ( no particular order)

Pascal Coyon (France)
Florent Lecomte ( France )
Reima Koivukoski ( Finland )

Screwly · 24 January 2023, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

I highly recommend Romain Gauthier. He is not exactly "uncoming" but his Insight Micro-Rotor are still available for purchase. These are proper work of art and I am puzzled why they are still available. His finishing is up there with Dufour and Voutilainen.

His continuum is impressive as well

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Gebbeth · 24 January 2023, 05:26 AM

"Upcoming" is hard to define.

Is Dan Royter "upcoming"?

Is Horage "upcoming?"

Mr. Jones.

Ochs und Junior.

Kudoke.

enjoythemusic · 24 January 2023, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by llngoc

Most of them are “well” known now. With the internet, it seems like even new young indies presold their first release before I even heard about it.

Having the same experience. Even recently spoken with someone not mentioned... his first run is sold out, but considering the craftsmanship I can see pricing will be very very high. So VERY high-end as in MB&F or Kari V territory, maybe even Akrivia in pricing. That begs the question, do you go with a known that has good service or roll the dice and take a chance on the 'new guys'? Interesting for sure.

For these new guys, and I may be wrong so feel free to correct me, it seems the sub-$15k zone is not even considered. I think Torsti Laine has a 'lock' at that price level if you want high-quality custom imho.

Let's say we stretch to $25k CHF, what is being made by the 'new guys'?

mchen42 · 24 January 2023, 07:15 AM

Krayon, if it could be ordered.

rockdrock · 24 January 2023, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mchen42

Krayon, if it could be ordered.

Krayon is nice but incredible pricey at close to 100K. The Anywhere is a great watch.

kunlun · 24 January 2023, 08:51 AM

RGM and Pascal Coyon are two very underrated indies.

Ichiran · 24 January 2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rockdrock

Krayon is nice but incredible pricey at close to 100K. The Anywhere is a great watch.

I thought it is reasonable given the highly impressive hand-finishing and in-house movement in a very wearable case (39mm by 9mm). I may add The Anywhere if given the opportunity.

btwistround · 24 January 2023, 10:11 AM

Lecomte looks pretty cool. Close to what I'm looking for.

It's tough and like you say, the internet has given so much access for new independents.

Especially for someone like me, who doesn't have mega deep pockets, not in the position to play the AD games for the mainstream brands. And the independents are largely 50k upwards.

Romain Gautheir are amazing. Out my range though

mchen42 · 24 January 2023, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I thought it is reasonable given the highly impressive hand-finishing and in-house movement in a very wearable case (39mm by 9mm). I may add The Anywhere if given the opportunity.

I ordered the new Krayon Anywhere. I suggest you should do it quick since they will raise the price soon (April 1st).

Ichiran · 24 January 2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mchen42

I ordered the new Krayon Anywhere. I suggest you should do it quick since they will raise the price soon (April 1st).

My AD just told me the reference C030-01 is S$200k, or U$151k. I can't afford it now as I have bought a few other pieces lately.

mchen42 · 24 January 2023, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiran

My AD just told me the reference C030-01 is S$200k, or U$151k. I can't afford it now as I have bought a few other pieces lately.

Email to Krayon. Ask them for "new" Anywhere.

Oryx · 25 January 2023, 04:37 AM

I am a major Romain Gauthier fan and love both the likes of the Logical One and Micro Rotor alongside the Continuum (I think all of the variations released to date are awesome!).

Continuums are well below £50k including the bracelet version.

Lecomte it’s awesome but it seems as if its very difficult to get an allocation.

The other indies to consider are:-

Theo Auffret
Christian Lass
Petermann Bédat
Xhevdet Rexhepi

WatchEater666 · 25 January 2023, 04:56 AM

I bought a piece from Felipe Pikullik and was really happy with it.

Check this out
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnj-QXzpzSw/?hl=en

His customer service was AWESOME.

djnick · 25 January 2023, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I bought a piece from Felipe Pikullik and was really happy with it.

Check this out
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnj-QXzpzSw/?hl=en

His customer service was AWESOME.

Which one did you get ? I’ve been highly considering a ZBM1 this past month. The free hand engraved dial with diamond markers is super unique.

I also like Laine watches the triple guilloche is a beauty and great value

ap1 · 25 January 2023, 10:29 PM

I took a chance on Trilobe and enjoy mine

yoast · 26 January 2023, 01:02 AM

Big fan of Alchemists, however very pricey

enjoythemusic · 26 January 2023, 01:25 AM

The Japanese independents are coming on strong, many with pricing that seems 'reasonable' too. Kikuchi Nakagawa and others also deserve attention imho.

https://www.fratellowatches.com/japa...big-year-2022/

Some of the hand-painted dials from Asian brands look incredible.

huydoan · 26 January 2023, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

The Japanese independents are coming on strong, many with pricing that seems 'reasonable' too. Kikuchi Nakagawa and others also deserve attention imho.

https://www.fratellowatches.com/japa...big-year-2022/

Some of the hand-painted dials from Asian brands look incredible.

Until you see Kikuchi-Nakagawa waiting time. Im not sure if I want to place 50% deposit for a timepiece available in 9-10 years

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GB-man · 26 January 2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by huydoan

Until you see Kikuchi-Nakagawa waiting time. Im not sure if I want to place 50% deposit for a timepiece available in 9-10 years

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For sure haha I looked into them a few years ago when Eric Ku was spotlighting them and it was so long I just laughed and moved on. Cool product though but nothing ground breaking.

enjoythemusic · 27 January 2023, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by huydoan

Until you see Kikuchi-Nakagawa waiting time. Im not sure if I want to place 50% deposit for a timepiece available in 9-10 years

Good for them! Have not kept up with delivery times so my bad. Am glad to see more watchmakers come to the forefront in many parts of the world.

Wow, 5 to 10 years wait. That's great and shows the strength of a more global market

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New vid just posted.

Ichiran · 2 February 2023, 09:21 PM

Xhevdet Rexhepi's first watch - Minute Inerte.

You can read more about it in his IG.

Some headline figures - 38mm 8.5mm, platinum, jumping minute hand.

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IMG_20230202_191623_(1250_x_800_pixel).jpg

enjoythemusic · 2 February 2023, 09:50 PM

^^^^ very cool!

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For those truly seeking timepieces from independents, check out https://www.thelimitededition.co.uk/...ition-watches/

llngoc · 3 February 2023, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

Xhevdet Rexhepi's first watch - Minute Inerte.

You can read more about it in his IG.

Some headline figures - 38mm 8.5mm, platinum, jumping minute hand.

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I think it is all sold out before this IG post was even up?

23 January 2023, 10:32 AM	#1
btwistround "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Liverpool Posts: 110	Upcoming independents Anyone know of any upcoming independents? I'm looking for my next watch and leaning more towards the indie scene. Looking for someone that's under the radar at the moment. Before they get hype exposure from the mainstream/ popular watch websites and influencers.

26 January 2023, 01:02 AM	#23
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,260	Big fan of Alchemists, however very pricey __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

26 January 2023, 01:25 AM	#24
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,439	The Japanese independents are coming on strong, many with pricing that seems 'reasonable' too. Kikuchi Nakagawa and others also deserve attention imho. https://www.fratellowatches.com/japa...big-year-2022/ Some of the hand-painted dials from Asian brands look incredible. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

2 February 2023, 09:50 PM	#29
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,439	^^^^ very cool! ---------- ---------- For those truly seeking timepieces from independents, check out https://www.thelimitededition.co.uk/...ition-watches/ __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

23 January 2023, 10:34 AM	#2
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,622	This group. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=886078

23 January 2023, 10:45 AM	#3
btwistround "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Liverpool Posts: 110	thanks man

24 January 2023, 01:16 AM	#6
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,622	I highly recommend Romain Gauthier. He is not exactly "uncoming" but his Insight Micro-Rotor are still available for purchase. These are proper work of art and I am puzzled why they are still available. His finishing is up there with Dufour and Voutilainen.

24 January 2023, 05:26 AM	#9
Gebbeth "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bay Area Posts: 759	"Upcoming" is hard to define. Is Dan Royter "upcoming"? Is Horage "upcoming?" Mr. Jones. Ochs und Junior. Kudoke.

24 January 2023, 07:15 AM	#11
mchen42 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: boston Posts: 104	Krayon, if it could be ordered.

24 January 2023, 08:51 AM	#13
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,897	RGM and Pascal Coyon are two very underrated indies.

24 January 2023, 10:11 AM	#15
btwistround "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Liverpool Posts: 110	Lecomte looks pretty cool. Close to what I'm looking for. It's tough and like you say, the internet has given so much access for new independents. Especially for someone like me, who doesn't have mega deep pockets, not in the position to play the AD games for the mainstream brands. And the independents are largely 50k upwards. Romain Gautheir are amazing. Out my range though

25 January 2023, 04:37 AM	#19
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,877	I am a major Romain Gauthier fan and love both the likes of the Logical One and Micro Rotor alongside the Continuum (I think all of the variations released to date are awesome!). Continuums are well below £50k including the bracelet version. Lecomte it’s awesome but it seems as if its very difficult to get an allocation. The other indies to consider are:- Theo Auffret Christian Lass Petermann Bédat Xhevdet Rexhepi

25 January 2023, 04:56 AM	#20
WatchEater666 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 1,653	I bought a piece from Felipe Pikullik and was really happy with it. Check this out https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnj-QXzpzSw/?hl=en His customer service was AWESOME.

25 January 2023, 10:29 PM	#22
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,041	I took a chance on Trilobe and enjoy mine

2 February 2023, 09:21 PM	#28
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,622	Xhevdet Rexhepi's first watch - Minute Inerte. You can read more about it in his IG. Some headline figures - 38mm 8.5mm, platinum, jumping minute hand. IMG_20230202_191602_(1080_x_1080_pixel).jpg IMG_20230202_191636_(800_x_1080_pixel).jpg IMG_20230202_191623_(1250_x_800_pixel).jpg

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