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Old 19 December 2009, 08:41 AM   #1
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So where do you draw the line with bracelets? A NATO strap is an aftermarket bracelet, so is a Bundt! IMO aftermarket is fine as long as it does not have any of the Rolex markings. Now a fake bracelet is an entirely different story.
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Sorry Scott............but just cannot agree!!

Genuine Rolex, genuine bracelet, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

Genuine Ferrari, genuine alloys, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

End of story - and any damn bank would accept it, lock, stock and smokin' barrel!!

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Old 19 December 2009, 08:47 AM   #2
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Sorry Scott............but just cannot agree!!

Genuine Rolex, genuine bracelet, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

Genuine Ferrari, genuine alloys, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

End of story - and any damn bank would accept it, lock, stock and smokin' barrel!!

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I should have expected as much Everyone will have a differing opinion on this, but I guess we can agree to disagree on this matter!

FWIW, I think that Rolex bracelets are top notch, but in certain situations there are better options! We have all read those (albeit infrequent) horror stories of a bracelet failing when someone was diving and the watch sank into the abyss! In this case, the security of NATO strap would have saved the watch.
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Old 19 December 2009, 08:50 AM   #3
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Old 19 December 2009, 08:52 AM   #4
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Sorry Scott............but just cannot agree!!

Genuine Rolex, genuine bracelet, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

Genuine Ferrari, genuine alloys, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

End of story - and any damn bank would accept it, lock, stock and smokin' barrel!!

JJ
100% with J.J. on this one . If we accept aftermarket stuff on our Rolex's , why bother buying a real one . You might as well buy a fake , copy or as some would like to glorify the same thing by calling it aftermarket .
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Old 19 December 2009, 09:03 AM   #5
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100% with J.J. on this one . If we accept aftermarket stuff on our Rolex's , why bother buying a real one . You might as well buy a fake , copy or as some would like to glorify the same thing by calling it aftermarket .
I think you are confusing the issue of parts and accessories here! To me a bracelet is a non functioning part of the watch. I will by no means accept aftermarket parts inside my watch.

Would your perspective change if Rolex offered Rubber straps to go with their Subs & SD's? Omega, Panerai and many other companies do this.

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Old 19 December 2009, 09:14 AM   #6
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I think you are confusing the issue of parts and accessories here! To me a bracelet is a non functioning part of the watch. I will by no means accept aftermarket parts inside my watch.

Would your perspective change if Rolex offered Rubber straps to go with their Subs & SD's? Omega, Panerai and many other companies do this.

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Well, Scott, if it's a genuine ROLEX endorsed rubber strap that comes as original option with the SD, then those who love rubber straps would definitely opt for it.

Let me give you my OWN example: I've been after a GENUINE Super Jubilee 63200 bracelet for my Exp-II 'cause I know it will fit spot-on using the same spring-bars which are currently on my Exp-II.

I am awaiting some good news shortly and shall update you guys as soon as I get it.

I've had the patience and tolerance to wait for this GENUINE Rolex bracelet. No way on mother earth would I dream of putting an aftermarket bracelet on my Exp-II, no matter how good the finish is.

Just against my principles.

If the Super Jubilee was finally NOT available, I would make do with the original Oysterlock bracelet that's come with the watch...........but no way would any aftermarket stuff touch my watch with a barge pole!!

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Old 19 December 2009, 08:54 AM   #7
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Sorry Scott............but just cannot agree!!

Genuine Rolex, genuine bracelet, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

Genuine Ferrari, genuine alloys, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

End of story - and any damn bank would accept it, lock, stock and smokin' barrel!!

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So why do you put on aftermarket paint on your loved Mazda?



Oupps sorry I now see you type high end car so that not include a riceburner.

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Old 19 December 2009, 09:26 AM   #8
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Sorry Scott............but just cannot agree!!

Genuine Rolex, genuine bracelet, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!

Genuine Ferrari, genuine alloys, genuine every damn thing - end of story!!


End of story - and any damn bank would accept it, lock, stock and smokin' barrel!!

JJ
Why not? I think this looks pretty...."fly".
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So does that mean JJ approved the aftermarket silicon option?
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Old 19 December 2009, 08:48 AM   #10
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Only reason to ever buy aftermarket is when the original part is not available anymore or anyplace, for example crown stem for a big crown 6538
Otherwise aftermarket=fake=copy=homage=don't want to go down that road thing...
.... in my humble opinion
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Old 19 December 2009, 09:20 AM   #11
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Not that I like to be serious, but come on... it's a watch, not a religion.
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Old 19 December 2009, 09:21 AM   #12
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Not that I like to be serious, but come on... it's a watch, not a religion.
To me Rolex is my religion!! Want to argue about that, tosser?
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Old 19 December 2009, 09:22 AM   #13
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To me Rolex is my religion!! Want to argue about that, tosser?
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Old 21 December 2009, 03:29 AM   #14
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Not that I like to be serious, but come on... it's a watch, not a religion.
I is like what Bill Shankly ( Liverpool FC ) said about football : It's not a matter of life or death ... its much more important ...
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Old 21 December 2009, 03:34 AM   #15
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I is like what Bill Shankly ( Liverpool FC ) said about football : It's not a matter of life or death ... its much more important ...
That's funny!
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meh... I would upgrade to a better set of wheels on my ferrari or any high end car if i have them.
imo - this rolex/relgion/aftermarket issue is going too far....

each to his own & enjoy your life to the best of your ability, not other people's standard/expectation.
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Old 19 December 2009, 10:17 AM   #17
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Old 19 December 2009, 11:19 AM   #19
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Old 19 December 2009, 11:34 AM   #20
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Old 19 December 2009, 11:39 AM   #21
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Aftermarket to the knowledgable is not a false bracelet with the Rolex logo. There are high quality aftermarket bands that have no Rolex markings, and don't pretend to be genuine Rolex. These are not fake, and there's nothing wrong with putting one of those on a Rolex, especially an older but not incredibly valuable one.
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People take this crap way to seriously. I buy Rolex watches because they are VERY accurate. I could care less about the bracelet because it is not necessary for the watch to keep almost perfect time. It is a part of the watch, that allows it to be worn. Heck, they make chinese bracelets that are quite functional, and would work fine on a watch. I only care that the watch-head stays 100% Rolex because they keep such excellent time. I have aftermarket springbars on my SeaDweller. Does that mean that I have fake parts on my watch??!!

I just would never pay $800+ for a 14060M replacement bracelet because IMHO, it is inferior. It has hollow end-links and hollow center links, and there are MUCH nicer 100% Swiss bracelets out there for a fraction of the price.

People that use their watches as tools of the trade don't take this so seriously IMHO.
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Old 19 December 2009, 12:02 PM   #23
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People take this crap way to seriously. I buy Rolex watches because they are VERY accurate. I could care less about the bracelet because it is not necessary for the watch to keep almost perfect time. It is a part of the watch, that allows it to be worn. Heck, they make chinese bracelets that are quite functional, and would work fine on a watch. I only care that the watch-head stays 100% Rolex because they keep such excellent time. I have aftermarket springbars on my SeaDweller. Does that mean that I have fake parts on my watch??!!

I just would never pay $800+ for a 14060M replacement bracelet because IMHO, it is inferior. It has hollow end-links and hollow center links, and there are MUCH nicer 100% Swiss bracelets out there for a fraction of the price.

People that use their watches as tools of the trade don't take this so seriously IMHO.
You buy Rolex watches because they are very accurate??? Yes but if you want very accurate a gum ball machine watch keeps better time as it is a quartz.

I will let other comment about what you say is crap? You mean the form? or what?
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You buy Rolex watches because they are very accurate??? Yes but if you want very accurate a gum ball machine watch keeps better time as it is a quartz.

I will let other comment about what you say is crap? You mean the form? or what?
I travel and dive in areas where buying batteries for a quartz watch is not a feasible thing. I do not dive with a computer, because I do not need one for the type of diving that I do. However, I do need an accurate and especially a RELIABLE automatic watch. In fact, I travel with 2 auto watches (at least) when going on a diving trip. I have been in a country that was not as industrialized as the United States, and have had a computer crap-out on me. It was that event that had me strengthen my resolve to not rely on a computer, but to rely on a good bottom timer, and my brain performing a few simple computations.

As far as the "crap"...........who cares if some people decide that the don't wish to spend $800 on a "Rolex" bracelet but decide to spend $100 on a non-rolex replacement bracelet??!! I mean, it is their watch..........I am sure they realize that overall value might not be as high as with the original bracelet. People get so caught up in the "Rolex" image, brand mistique, etc.

If people saw the non-SEL, non-solid center link bracelet on a chinese quartz........they would say it was inferior. However, since it is "Rolex"........all the sudden it is "more balanced" or "durable enough" etc etc.

Sorry, I just don't drink the kool-aid.
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What kind of question is this. After market is a soft word for fake..... Take that 590.00 plus tax and spend it with pride... You are getting off easy. Most of us spend in the 1000's easy for watches and for sure about 500.00 for a service. You are getting a great deal for a new band on that air-king.
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Basically your Rolex will be half fake with the "After market" band...the choice is yours.
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Basically your Rolex will be half fake with the "After market" band...the choice is yours.
NO! NO! NO!
do you have a car, if so, did you purchase it new, if so after many miles did you put new tires on? if so did you put the exact ones that it came with from the dealership!
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To settle the argument of "is aftermarket the same as fake?", take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-18K-SS-JU...item439c1390fc

That is an aftermarket bracelet. If it was fake, eBay could/would remove it.

Think it's a fake? Try to get eBay to remove it.
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To settle the argument of "is aftermarket the same as fake?", take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-18K-SS-JU...item439c1390fc

That is an aftermarket bracelet. If it was fake, eBay could/would remove it.

Think it's a fake? Try to get eBay to remove it.
That's different...the auction isn't claiming it to be authentic, just a band for a Rolex.

It's semantics I guess....what percentage constitutes authentic. A non Rolex band makes the watch less than 100% authentic....whether or not one considers that fakery is up to the owner I guess.
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That's different...the auction isn't claiming it to be authentic, just a band for a Rolex.

It's semantics I guess....what percentage constitutes authentic. A non Rolex band makes the watch less than 100% authentic....whether or not one considers that fakery is up to the owner I guess.
No, not semantics at all, but instead the definition of the word "aftermarket" vs. the words "fake" / "counterfeit". They aren't the same at all and calling an aftermarket part a fake is simply incorrect.

I totally agree that none are genuine Rolex or authentic Rolex and they absolutely lessen the re-sale value of the watch as a whole.
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