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Old 13 August 2019, 10:31 AM   #1
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All this talk about what is vintage or not...

So all this talk about what is vintage or not... Some saying 30 plus years and some say only plexi/non gold surrounds...

So my watch is 35 years old and is an all original transitional early gloss dial with white gold surrounds from 1984 reference 16800... Still not vintage? So when does it become vintage? Is it just a classic forever since it has white gold surrounds and shappire glass?

Insert has faded to matte and in some light it's bluish... The tritium has turned creamy from white... Silver brushed datewheel has open 6 and 9's.. The steel is 316L steel...

Still not vintage enough?




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Old 13 August 2019, 10:38 AM   #2
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I do think the definition should be revised from just 4 digits to include more references at this point. Very lovely watch BTW! Here's more of the same talk on another active thread: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=691571
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Old 13 August 2019, 10:39 AM   #3
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35 years old is definitely vintage for me regardless of other factors.
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Old 13 August 2019, 10:44 AM   #4
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Old 13 August 2019, 10:54 AM   #5
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My 28 year old 1991 Sub 16610 didnt make the cut either. I agree with the four digit option, it makes things a lot simpler that way. I have a 1680, so I win either way.
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Old 13 August 2019, 12:04 PM   #6
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What difference does it make what it's called? Again, as I mentioned in one of these threads a while back, nothing magical or mystical happens because you or anyone calls a watch vintage.

Let's move on please. Why keep beating the dead horse?
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Old 13 August 2019, 12:12 PM   #7
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What difference does it make what it's called? Again, as I mentioned in one of these threads a while back, nothing magical or mystical happens because you or anyone calls a watch vintage.

Let's move on please. Why keep beating the dead horse?
Thank you, John.

Glosstritium, you have a lovely watch. Period. Who cares what categoric time-frame label is attached to it. The value of it isn't going to change. Your appreciation of it (I hope) isn't going to change.
If you want to apply the label "vintage" to it, go ahead. No one has any authority to stop you. Some may disagree. But, as Springer pointed out, What difference does it make? The term "vintage" means different things to different people!
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Old 13 August 2019, 12:55 PM   #8
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to each his own defintion, for me vintage is a tool watch, pre-owned, and pre-loved, that has history and nice scuffs, but still runs like day 1. It can be a beat up GMT or an old speedmaster that was gifted as a graduation present.
All in all, to me it's a watch with history that was well worn and appreciated and still have lots of love left in it
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Old 13 August 2019, 01:14 PM   #9
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One thing is for sure, this topic is a classic
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Old 13 August 2019, 01:39 PM   #10
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what difference does it make what it's called? Again, as i mentioned in one of these threads a while back, nothing magical or mystical happens because you or anyone calls a watch vintage.



Let's move on please. Why keep beating the dead horse?


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Old 13 August 2019, 01:58 PM   #11
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Ask the watch politely its position on people being on its lawn. If it gets agitated, its vintage.
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Old 13 August 2019, 02:00 PM   #12
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Ask the watch politely its position on people being on its lawn. If it gets agitated, its vintage.
We have a winner!
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Old 13 August 2019, 08:59 PM   #13
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So all this talk about what is vintage or not... Some saying 30 plus years and some say only plexi/non gold surrounds...

So my watch is 35 years old and is an all original transitional early gloss dial with white gold surrounds from 1984 reference 16800... Still not vintage? So when does it become vintage? Is it just a classic forever since it has white gold surrounds and shappire glass?

Insert has faded to matte and in some light it's bluish... The tritium has turned creamy from white... Silver brushed datewheel has open 6 and 9's.. The steel is 316L steel...

Still not vintage enough?
Why do you care? This topic has become “vintage”
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Old 13 August 2019, 10:16 PM   #14
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4 digit acrylic matte. Next topic.


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Old 13 August 2019, 10:51 PM   #15
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Love my Vintage =)
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Old 14 August 2019, 01:48 AM   #16
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Exactly, call a five digit what you want age wise, it would still be missing the desirable attributes of the iconic four digit references.

Saphire crystals, white gold dial markers, thicker cases are a different game.

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Old 14 August 2019, 02:01 AM   #17
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Love my Vintage =)
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:07 AM   #18
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A Rolex is a classic gentleman's watch for people with class... Maybe this brand is not for you...
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:12 AM   #19
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Very nice, looks pretty vintage to me.
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:38 AM   #20
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A Rolex is a classic gentleman's watch for people with class...
I know of many classless, insufferable, intolerant, contemptuous "gentlemen" who own and wear Rolexes.

It's an equal opportunity watch, I'm afraid.
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:49 AM   #21
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-Can you please help me buy a nice vintage Rolex diver?

-Sure! I think you should buy this 16610.

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Old 14 August 2019, 02:51 AM   #22
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[QUOTE=roh123;9895052]-Can you please help me buy a nice vintage Rolex diver?

-Sure! I think you should buy this 16610.



My watch is a 16800 ?
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:52 AM   #23
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I know of many classless, insufferable, intolerant, contemptuous "gentlemen" who own and wear Rolexes.

It's an equal opportunity watch, I'm afraid.
Sadly this is what the brand has become...

But I do love my vintage gloss dial =)
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Old 14 August 2019, 03:35 AM   #24
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But I do love my vintage gloss dial =)
OK OK, we get it.
The great thing about a vintage watch is that you don’t have to point out that it’s a vintage watch.
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Old 14 August 2019, 03:44 AM   #25
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Why do you care? This topic has become “vintage”
I have been on this forum for less than one year and I've seen about 10 of these threads. Does it really matter? Past vintage, it's old as Fu*#!
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A Rolex is a classic gentleman's watch for people with class... Maybe this brand is not for you...
Quite an interesting and ironic post. I guess gentlemen with class are the types who make whiny posts to convince others that their watch is vintage, and then pass judgment on people they’ve never met based on a comment made on the watch forum. Enjoy your not so vintage watch like a gentleman !
Stay classy

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Old 14 August 2019, 04:14 AM   #27
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Quite an interesting and ironic post. I guess gentlemen with class are the types who make whiny posts to convince others that their watch is vintage, and then pass judgment on people they’ve never met based on a comment made on the watch forum. Enjoy your not so vintage watch like a gentleman !
Stay classy

You can have the last words, I rest my case
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Old 14 August 2019, 04:26 AM   #28
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So all this talk about what is vintage or not... Some saying 30 plus years and some say only plexi/non gold surrounds...

So my watch is 35 years old and is an all original transitional early gloss dial with white gold surrounds from 1984 reference 16800... Still not vintage? So when does it become vintage? Is it just a classic forever since it has white gold surrounds and shappire glass?

Insert has faded to matte and in some light it's bluish... The tritium has turned creamy from white... Silver brushed datewheel has open 6 and 9's.. The steel is 316L steel...

Still not vintage enough?






It’s vintage


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Tip of the Day: Life is short... so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the internet arguing with strangers about the meaning of vintage in relation to a bunch of old watches most people niether care for or have even heard of...
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Tip of the Day: Life is short... so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the internet arguing with strangers about the meaning of vintage in relation to a bunch of old watches most people niether care for or have even heard of...
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