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Old 14 August 2019, 05:50 AM   #31
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4 digit acrylic matte. Next topic.


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Plenty non matte dials from mid 60s and earlier.


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Old 14 August 2019, 07:46 AM   #32
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Plenty non matte dials from mid 60s and earlier.


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Great point. Gilt baby!!


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Old 14 August 2019, 08:09 AM   #33
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Gilt is gloss so what's the difference.. And 60s datejust are gloss also...
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:38 AM   #34
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Gilt is gloss so what's the difference.. And 60s datejust are gloss also...
Huge difference between a pre-1967 gilt dial Sub and a gloss Sub w WGS.
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Old 14 August 2019, 09:06 AM   #35
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Huge difference between a pre-1967 gilt dial Sub and a gloss Sub w WGS.
Lol huge difference
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Old 14 August 2019, 09:37 AM   #36
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Lol huge difference
Yeah, you’re probably right. What the hell do we know?

Guys, forget everything you’ve learned.
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Old 14 August 2019, 09:51 AM   #37
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Yeah, you’re probably right. What the hell do we know?

Guys, forget everything you’ve learned.
Now we talking..
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:15 AM   #38
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Yeah, you’re probably right. What the hell do we know?

Guys, forget everything you’ve learned.
He’s just trying to teach you how to be a classy gentleman. Better pay attention
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:37 AM   #39
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He’s just trying to teach you how to be a classy gentleman. Better pay attention
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Old 15 August 2019, 07:55 AM   #40
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to each his own defintion, for me vintage is a tool watch, pre-owned, and pre-loved, that has history and nice scuffs, but still runs like day 1. It can be a beat up GMT or an old speedmaster that was gifted as a graduation present.
All in all, to me it's a watch with history that was well worn and appreciated and still have lots of love left in it
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 15 August 2019, 03:21 PM   #41
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A bunch of old guys (or maybe young) guys who can afford to buy expensive watches arguing about expensive watches as if the fate of the world depends on the definition of vintage. Hilarious.

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Old 15 August 2019, 10:01 PM   #42
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A bunch of old guys (or maybe young) guys who can afford to buy expensive watches arguing about expensive watches as if the fate of the world depends on the definition of vintage. Hilarious.

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Indeed, it is so vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. To misquote someone or other...


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Old 17 August 2019, 03:44 AM   #43
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Thank you, John.

Glosstritium, you have a lovely watch. Period. Who cares what categoric time-frame label is attached to it. The value of it isn't going to change. Your appreciation of it (I hope) isn't going to change.
If you want to apply the label "vintage" to it, go ahead. No one has any authority to stop you. Some may disagree. But, as Springer pointed out, What difference does it make? The term "vintage" means different things to different people!
Completely agree.

I do think there is some "vintage" gatekeeping here though where people think the criteria are set in stone and never going to change.
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Old 28 August 2019, 02:30 PM   #44
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I don't think a watch from 1984 can be considered vintage. My two cents.
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Old 28 August 2019, 04:35 PM   #45
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Its whatever you want. The only reason someone wants to know its vintage is either to label their watch as such, or for marketability on value of the watch.

When you sell the watch list it as vintage. If people don't agree that the model or year isn't vintage or vintage enough for them then they won't buy. I don't think the vintage police will come knocking on your door.
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Old 28 August 2019, 09:52 PM   #46
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I don't think a watch from 1984 can be considered vintage. My two cents.
Matte 16800, matte 16660, 5513, 1016?
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Old 28 August 2019, 11:03 PM   #47
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4 digit acrylic matte. Next topic.


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Old 28 August 2019, 11:51 PM   #48
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I don’t mind; I just wait for my early 2000’s 5-digit to become Vintage.
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Old 29 August 2019, 01:30 AM   #49
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Matte 16800, matte 16660, 5513, 1016?
Exactly. There is no difference between a 1984 1016 and a 1982 1016 except the shape of the crown on the dial if even that.
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Old 29 August 2019, 01:55 AM   #50
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I think is a fun argument re: Vintage and I personally feel the lines are blurry. 4 digits obviously for the most part are all vintage with some in the neo-vintage realm of the 80s and onward to early aughts. I feel like the reason 5 digit models are more vintage than non-vintage is the dramatic differences between 5 digit and 6 digit models (engraved rehaut, incised crown on crystal, case size, etc.). I also think 5 digit models are going the be the new collectible models in years to come.
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Old 29 August 2019, 03:00 AM   #51
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+1 but if you like a watch from 1990 or 2019, who cares if it's vintage or not...??!
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Old 29 August 2019, 02:19 PM   #52
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