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Old 13 May 2019, 10:08 PM   #91
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Be aware that disclosure will open up opportunities for individuals and groups to make money, etc. Some "Groups" have started getting ready for this.
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Old 13 May 2019, 10:11 PM   #92
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This has always been my main thought on why there is virtually no chance UFOs are from outer space.
EXACTLY, there seems to be no good evidence of them coming here from outer space. They appear multi-dimensional, not interstellar as Hollywood would lead you.



The late Professor Terence McKenna once said something to the effect of, (non-exact quote):

"The Phenomena has a symbiotic relationship with us and disguises itself as an Alien Invasion, so as not to alarm us."
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Old 21 May 2019, 07:06 PM   #93
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Friend, foe or unknown force flying overhead? Congress should find out.

"Most Americans would no doubt agree that our inability to identify scores of mysterious aircraft repeatedly violating restricted U.S. military airspace in recent years is a shocking failure. But there is no need to wrangle over compliance with intelligence oversight laws. The Navy’s recent admissions regarding UAP intrusions provide more than adequate grounds for requiring a written report to Congress."

"Christopher Mellon served 20 years in the federal government and was deputy assistant Defense secretary for intelligence from 1999 to 2002, and for security and information operations from 1998 to 1999. From 2002 to 2004, he was minority staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence under Sen. John Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). He is a national security affairs adviser for To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and a consultant to HISTORY’s nonfiction series, “Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation,” which premieres May 31."

https://thehill.com/opinion/national...eid=49365a8335

Draft Congressional Report Language:

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/bl...eport-language



Interesting YouTube Commentary on all of the above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0XxfU7wSo
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Old 21 May 2019, 08:40 PM   #94
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dtwer -they would have to have invented some extreme method of travel that defies physics.

speedmaster - This has always been my main thought on why there is virtually no chance UFOs are from outer space.


It only defies physics as we presently understand it.

There could be thousands (or infinite) forms of life that have evolved for millions of years longer than our paltry time frame, with intelligence and understanding billions of times greater than ours.

Who knows – a light year of travel to them may equate to a leisurely drive to the local shops for us.

Humans will make ground breaking (to us) advances in future years that may defy/challenge physics as we now understand it.
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Old 23 May 2019, 04:16 AM   #95
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DISCLOSURE!

The Pentagon has finally uttered the words it always avoided when discussing the possible existence of UFOs — “unidentified aerial phenomena” — and admits that it still investigates reports of them.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/22/the-pe...ontent-wrapper
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Old 23 May 2019, 04:25 AM   #96
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DISCLOSURE!

The Pentagon has finally uttered the words it always avoided when discussing the possible existence of UFOs — “unidentified aerial phenomena” — and admits that it still investigates reports of them.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/22/the-pe...ontent-wrapper
They didn’t disclose anything useful or ground breaking. They said they investgate all reports of intrusions in our airspace for potential threats. They’ve been saying that since the 1950’s.
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Old 23 May 2019, 05:06 AM   #97
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I hate to ask this but has anything Bob Lazar said been proven false? Seems like all the element 115 things are accurate.
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Old 23 May 2019, 05:11 AM   #98
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Could it be a weather ballon?
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Old 23 May 2019, 05:37 AM   #99
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Could it be a weather ballon?
No, it’s a fifth generation spy plane.
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Old 23 May 2019, 06:11 AM   #100
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Don't worry. Now that Trump knows about it. He will tweet detail about UFO in random times :D
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Old 23 May 2019, 06:25 AM   #101
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Cool thread. I admit I watch Ancient Aliens, I find it entertaining. I have read some books. Chariots of the Gods was a fun read. Really do not have an opinion but I do find it fascinating. There are so many things on our planet when we examine history that are hard to explain.
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Old 23 May 2019, 07:23 AM   #102
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In some way, and I have no idea how... but definitely, in some definite way....


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Old 23 May 2019, 11:12 AM   #103
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UFO over my house right now! Oh wait that’s an airbus lol
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Old 23 May 2019, 12:04 PM   #104
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I would hope that any ETs that fly UFOs would be so much farther-advanced than us that we wouldn't even know they're there. There's no way that human are the only intelligent lifeform in the universe/galaxy/space/whatever. IDK why any other lifeform would want to come visit us, though... We've f*cked everything up! The planet is in ruins & countries around the world are being led by colossal dummies. This thread sure is entertaining to read, though.
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Old 23 May 2019, 07:26 PM   #105
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They didn’t disclose anything useful or ground breaking. They said they investgate all reports of intrusions in our airspace for potential threats. They’ve been saying that since the 1950’s.


On the contrary, they confirmed the existence of AATIP, and continuation of such.



"Department of Defense spokesman said a secret government initiative called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena.”

And while the DOD says it shut down the AATIP in 2012, spokesman Christopher Sherwood acknowledged that the department still investigates claimed sightings of alien spacecraft."



AATIP was started for one reason, to gather information on UFO's, more accurately know as UAP's.

UAP's because it was "known" from huge amounts of data that a "Phenomena" existed, not a misidentified more conventional or natural object.

"Phenomena" not because of limited sketchy data, but because of large amounts of "Phenomenal" Data.

We know this because Harry Reid, the guy who initiated AATIP and got the funds for it, has specifically said so in many different interviews. The guy who ran AATIP, Luis Elizondo is now conveying some of that "data" through Tom Delonge's To The Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences. Elizondo is now part of TTSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanc...cation_Program



Some of the AATIP Data is multiple eyewitness pilots, Advanced Thermal Imagery, and Radar records from some of the best Radar in the world.

Disclosure already happened, it is the job of Delonge and TTSA to do this. The Pentagon is simply confirming it, officially.



Why did this happen yesterday?

Because next week on History Channel Delonge and TTSA will start their 6 part series where more, (NEW), Pentagon AATIP video and "Data" will be released to the public:

https://www.history.com/shows/uniden...-investigation




Since 1947 our Government denied UFO's. Now they confirm UAP investigation.

Everything has changed...……….

Much, much more to come. Stay Tuned
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Old 23 May 2019, 07:39 PM   #106
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Don't worry. Now that Trump knows about it. He will tweet detail about UFO in random times :D
Every General in the Pentagon works for Trump. Remember Trump creating a "Space Force", this was not by coincidence:

https://www.defensenews.com/space/20...-forcefor-now/

P.S. A "Space Force" has been around for a while, Trump started disclosure of such, not creation.
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Old 23 May 2019, 07:49 PM   #107
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Cool thread. I admit I watch Ancient Aliens, I find it entertaining. I have read some books. Chariots of the Gods was a fun read. Really do not have an opinion but I do find it fascinating. There are so many things on our planet when we examine history that are hard to explain.
The recurring phrase of Ancient Aliens has been "Could it Be?"

This is now changing to a more matter of factual statements, "We have never been alone":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9T_UqUEE3k

The coming paradigm change will give greater credibility to von Däniken,

The Season Premiere of Ancient Aliens is one hour before the Premiere of Delonge's Series. This is certainly not by coincidence.



None of this is by coincidence. Some of best Hollywood and Pentagon spinmasters are behind this.
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Old 23 May 2019, 08:18 PM   #108
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No, it’s a fifth generation spy plane.
According to Delonge, our most advanced aircraft (TR3B) Black Triangles are used to intercept and "bait" UAP's.

His Sekret Machines books use a fictional story to supposedly convey factual information about the current state of UAP "Phenomena" interaction with humans.
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Old 23 May 2019, 08:18 PM   #109
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You can fool some of the people all the time.
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Old 23 May 2019, 08:25 PM   #110
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... We've f*cked everything up! The planet is in ruins
The "Phenomena" may have helped influence us to this current condition.
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Old 23 May 2019, 08:28 PM   #111
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You can fool some of the people all the time.
Like a Government false flag operation to create fake aliens to generate more tax dollars to fight a make believe enemy?
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Old 23 May 2019, 08:34 PM   #112
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I hate to ask this but has anything Bob Lazar said been proven false? Seems like all the element 115 things are accurate.
Lazar is an enigma, he has definitely lied about some things, but seems to have knowledge about other things. A couple years ago, Delonge said he was going to do a biography on him, but Delonge hasn't said much lately.

Element 115, (Moscovium) has been created. It is highly radioactive and has a half life of only .65 seconds. It disintegrates as quickly as you can make it.

Lazar has said there is a more stable isotope of this element that humans have not been able to make yet. Who Knows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscovium


Some speculate Lazar was used by the Government as a misinformation agent dupe. Shown some real stuff, then shown some fake. This is my best guess at the moment.
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Old 23 May 2019, 09:34 PM   #113
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"People Believe Skunkworks brought Alien Technology to Area 51"

Above is a quote from an advertisement on another History Channel Show to debut in a couple weeks:

https://www.history.com/specials/his...orks-2/preview


TTSA has a former Skunkworks project manager working for them, Steve Justice

It is interesting that he is still prominently displayed on an official Lockheed/Skunkworks page:

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...kunkworks.html


Here he is on the TTSA page, same pic:

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/bl...de-skunk-works


It will be interesting to see if the History Channel plays the Skunkworks Alien Technology angle in that show.
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Pentagon AATIP also paid Nevada Billionaire and Space Mogul Bob Bigelow to study materials from UAP's.


Bigelow AeroSpace has a dedicated building with an Alien Logo on the outside dedicated to studying these materials:

https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-t...egas/983586055


Bigelow Aerospace also has a room on the International Space Station:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigelo...ctivity_Module

https://www.nasa.gov/content/bigelow...ctivity-module


Bigelow on 60 minutes saying that Aliens are "Right Under Our Nose":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BZSykPTtlI
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Old 24 May 2019, 07:48 PM   #115
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The New York Post now has a Video on their Pentagon/AATIP "UFO" Newspaper Story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Ty_S1qs20
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The team behind To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science

A nicely done non-official video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6yGIQ2no-8
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Old 24 May 2019, 11:27 PM   #117
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Old 24 May 2019, 11:30 PM   #118
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Old 28 May 2019, 07:20 PM   #119
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NEWLY RELEASED

In 2014 a U.S. Navy Super Hornet has a "Near Miss" with a UFO off Virginia Beach, Virginia.

“resembled a sphere encasing a cube”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/navy-...bVBhaqIJmudEu9

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/u...vy-pilots.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAf4L4g--xw

More leaks nearly every day now...………………...
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As one who has family (plus one friend) involved in gov’t projects for decades - that they can’t even name 30 years later - I can only repeat the sole comment they make: “You ain’t seen nothing yet!”

What to think???

Development of special hardware by our side and the other countries who want the latest tech will inevitably be seen in the wild. Maybe some of the latest Navy aviator observations are classified NSA or CIA projects.

The wild card is a foreign ship could also be testing near us. For example, in 2018 the Leonov, a ship known for conducting annual forays near sensitive U.S. military facilities off the East Coast, was operating off the Georgia coast near Kings Bay, home to U.S. nuclear missile submarines. It was located 20 nautical miles offshore for weeks last Spring.

She could be back???


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