UK Speedmaster 321 Price Increase

[SteveY]

As the title states ! Anyone received in UK yet ?

[wlchuccc]

I have not seen anyone got it except Robert

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[bonsai-man]

Nothing yet

[Dsmith1974]

It’s expensive enough as it is!


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[997]

receiving mine next week, hopefully.

[Wrist party]

Was supposed to be receiving the piece by the end of July, but nothing yet.

[wlchuccc]

Originally Posted by 997

receiving mine next week, hopefully.

where are you?

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[Trog]

Originally Posted by Wrist party

Was supposed to be receiving the piece by the end of July, but nothing yet.

My AD tells me that none are expected to arrive in Canada until September. And those will be allocated to the boutiques.

So who knows when the AD's over here will see any.

[Wrist party]

Originally Posted by Trog

My AD tells me that none are expected to arrive in Canada until September. And those will be allocated to the boutiques.

So who knows when the AD's over here will see any.

yea I know but here in Toronto there’re no boutiques so a select handful of ADs will get the treatment, at least that’s how they told me.

[Trane]

Originally Posted by Wrist party

yea I know but here in Toronto there’re no boutiques so a select handful of ADs will get the treatment, at least that’s how they told me.

Something tells me RDV and European Jewellers at Yorkdale would be candidates at the very least

[sechsgang]

My boutique won't be getting ANY this year it seems, thats the one in King of Prussia, PA. There were definitely major covid delays with this specific piece...oh well, still looking forward to mine whenever it comes...

[Timeless Lux Watches]

We are a Texas based AD and we have not seen any yet. Excited to see them in the steel though!

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by Timeless Lux Watches

We are a Texas based AD and we have not seen any yet. Excited to see them in the steel though!

Hey! Finally an AD on the forum haha

I notice you’ve been a member for a while, I just hadn’t found you.


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[Hollie_Rollie]

I haven’t really been following the speedmaster line. Can someone tell me why this is priced at $14,000 ? Am I missing something

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

I haven’t really been following the speedmaster line. Can someone tell me why this is priced at $14,000 ? Am I missing something

It’s a special edition with the reversed engineered caliber 321, with a bracelet that doesn’t look like Seiko’s. Basically it’s the best looking Speed master, with an old vintage caliber.

Imagine Porsche releasing an old 911, complete with 30y/o engine (but new), and you get the idea.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Got it. The hodinkee article I read on it said that it wasn’t a special edition though?

So there’s an updated movement, bracelet and the lugs are different. Aside from the fake patina I think it’s a cool looking watch. In true omega fashion I’ll pick one up 30-40% off msrp haha. I never pay attention the omega msrp, they are the anti Rolex when it comes to msrp

[tmilnthorp]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

Got it. The hodinkee article I read on it said that it wasn’t a special edition though?

So there’s an updated movement, bracelet and the lugs are different. Aside from the fake patina I think it’s a cool looking watch. In true omega fashion I’ll pick one up 30-40% off msrp haha. I never pay attention the omega msrp, they are the anti Rolex when it comes to msrp

One day maybe. I don't think you'll find a discount on these for some time. They're only making 1-2k pieces per year. Seems they've learned from Rolex!

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by tmilnthorp

One day maybe. I don't think you'll find a discount on these for some time. They're only making 1-2k pieces per year. Seems they've learned from Rolex!

True.

I’m just confused what’s going on with the 3570 speedmaster. I owned one, sold it a few years ago and now was checking them out again.

I saw some threads where they claimed the 3570 was discontinued. I thought the 321 was a replacement until I saw the 14k price tag. Any chance the updated 3570 has the new bracelet ? That’s really my only wish for the 3570, I was not a fan at all of that bracelet...

[Stevec14]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

True.

I’m just confused what’s going on with the 3570 speedmaster. I owned one, sold it a few years ago and now was checking them out again.

I saw some threads where they claimed the 3570 was discontinued. I thought the 321 was a replacement until I saw the 14k price tag. Any chance the updated 3570 has the new bracelet ? That’s really my only wish for the 3570, I was not a fan at all of that bracelet...

The boggo speedy will doubtless get cal3861, a ceramic bezel and sapphire along with a decent price hike. Whether it will get the same bracelet is not clear but like you I’m not a fan of the old one.

As above, don’t think you’ll get any discount on the new Ed White.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by Stevec14

The boggo speedy will doubtless get cal3861, a ceramic bezel and sapphire along with a decent price hike. Whether it will get the same bracelet is not clear but like you I’m not a fan of the old one.

As above, don’t think you’ll get any discount on the new Ed White.

Wait so no more hesalite crystal

[tmilnthorp]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

True.

I’m just confused what’s going on with the 3570 speedmaster. I owned one, sold it a few years ago and now was checking them out again.

I saw some threads where they claimed the 3570 was discontinued. I thought the 321 was a replacement until I saw the 14k price tag. Any chance the updated 3570 has the new bracelet ? That’s really my only wish for the 3570, I was not a fan at all of that bracelet...

It isn't officially discontinued yet. Dealers are being restricted how many they can order at a time as they're likely winding down stock.

I have heard rumors the bracelet will be redesigned. But they are exactly that: rumors.

[Stevec14]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

Wait so no more hesalite crystal

Not necessarily - it it’s the way omega are heading though. They are trying to complete with Rolex and you can’t necessarily do that with hesalite and aluminium. You need to provide a premium product for a premium price tag.


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[wlchuccc]

i understand why they will discontinue the 1861 movement but dont understand why they will also discontinue the hesalite crystal

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[enkrypt]

Originally Posted by Stevec14

The boggo speedy will doubtless get cal3861, a ceramic bezel and sapphire along with a decent price hike. Whether it will get the same bracelet is not clear but like you I’m not a fan of the old one.

As above, don’t think you’ll get any discount on the new Ed White.

You are wrong and just fueling wild rumours.

[texasmade]

The only thing most people are sure is going to happen is the updated movement.

[Stevec14]

Originally Posted by enkrypt

You are wrong and just fueling wild rumours.

Sorry - exactly why am I ‘wrong’. It’s the obvious step. Why develop the 3861 otherwise.

It’s also exactly where omega are going and makes sense given their latest pricing.

Interested to her your thoughts rather than a one liner saying I am wrong.

The Move to 3861 has been obvious since the release in the Apollo watches.

[Stevec14]

Originally Posted by wlchuccc

i understand why they will discontinue the 1861 movement but dont understand why they will also discontinue the hesalite crystal

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Because a plastic crystal has no place on a modern luxury watch. Maybe I’m wrong, but why in gods name would you do it if you are trying to move into Rolex shoes. It wouldn’t make much sense. Maybe they will, but they are moving to ceramic bezels and spapphire recently for the new speedies and would expect the same here

[wlchuccc]

a valid point, i hope thats not the case. I like ceramic materials in some pieces, but i think a history should be respect in a good way too

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[Stevec14]

Originally Posted by wlchuccc

a valid point, i hope thats not the case. I like ceramic materials in some pieces, but i think a history should be respect in a good way too

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Yeah, I agree to an extent. Let’s see what happens! Maybe they’ll keep a more original version of the speedy which would suit many

[enkrypt]

Originally Posted by Stevec14

Yeah, I agree to an extent. Let’s see what happens! Maybe they’ll keep a more original version of the speedy which would suit many

That is my point.
The Hesalite Speedy Pro is the only constant in Omega's collection, and has been for decades, compared to the rest of the watches which changes design every few years, based on fashion trends.
Certified for manned space flight. They would be crazy to touch that in any meaningful way. The 3861 is a very different movement compared to the 1861. And hesalite in particular is an essential part of a moonwatch, I would never want a saphire version.