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TheVTCGuy · 3 December 2015, 03:48 PM

Evening everyone. I don't know much about vintage, but am trying to do some research and save my friend from making a big mistake in a hurry so thought i'd post here. He collects mostly vintage Omegas, but this "guy" has offered to sell him a vintage GMT, that really caught his eye. He sent me a cell phone photo of it and the first thing I noticed was it had a black-red bezel, faded but definitely a coke, and NO crown guards. That... just doesn't seem right to me. I am typing away on line like mad right now trying to find out but can anyone confirm the coke version came out WAY after the case adopted crown guards? I told my friend I would steer clear of this but of course this guy says it's a "limited time offer" (whatever the hell that means).

Any help is appreciated.

Old Expat Beast · 3 December 2015, 03:54 PM

Coke inserts were introduced in about 1983 with the first GMT-Master II, the 16760 Fat Lady. Crown guards came in late 50s with the 1675.

waQstar · 3 December 2015, 03:57 PM

Pic please

TheVTCGuy · 3 December 2015, 08:43 PM

I'll post the pic he sent me tomorrow morning. Thanks Ex Pat, this whole deal just stunk from the start. When my friend told him about the Coke, this dude said that went it went to RSC it came back with a Coke bezel, they replaced it. I know that is BS. My friend is walking away. i am VERY relieved. Thanks again,

Andad · 3 December 2015, 09:40 PM

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morafa4 · 3 December 2015, 11:50 PM

Sounds like it could be a 6542 that's had a sapphire coke insert glued into it... There's a slim possibility it might be a darkened/aged bakelite since the blue hemisphere can sometimes appear near black, but seeing as you say its def coke and FADED, it must be a jury-rigged 6542 w/ sapphire insert.

05carbondrz · 4 December 2015, 02:02 AM

If the price is right,I would be happy to buy a 6542 with the wrong insert.A lot of the Bakelite bezel inserts have been changed over the Years.

AnythingButTime · 5 December 2015, 01:54 AM

I too have seen original inserts darken to almost black.

Tools · 5 December 2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AnythingButTime

I too have seen original inserts darken to almost black.

that would be my first guess too

Of course I would want to see it before I made any more comment...

3 December 2015, 03:48 PM	#1
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	"Coke" GMT with no crown guards!? Evening everyone. I don't know much about vintage, but am trying to do some research and save my friend from making a big mistake in a hurry so thought i'd post here. He collects mostly vintage Omegas, but this "guy" has offered to sell him a vintage GMT, that really caught his eye. He sent me a cell phone photo of it and the first thing I noticed was it had a black-red bezel, faded but definitely a coke, and NO crown guards. That... just doesn't seem right to me. I am typing away on line like mad right now trying to find out but can anyone confirm the coke version came out WAY after the case adopted crown guards? I told my friend I would steer clear of this but of course this guy says it's a "limited time offer" (whatever the hell that means). Any help is appreciated.

3 December 2015, 03:57 PM	#3
waQstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Walter A. Location: Sunny California Watch: 16760 Posts: 2,629	Pic please __________________ Our shadows taller than our soul........

3 December 2015, 09:40 PM	#5
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,792	. __________________ E

3 December 2015, 03:54 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,356	Coke inserts were introduced in about 1983 with the first GMT-Master II, the 16760 Fat Lady. Crown guards came in late 50s with the 1675.

3 December 2015, 08:43 PM	#4
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	I'll post the pic he sent me tomorrow morning. Thanks Ex Pat, this whole deal just stunk from the start. When my friend told him about the Coke, this dude said that went it went to RSC it came back with a Coke bezel, they replaced it. I know that is BS. My friend is walking away. i am VERY relieved. Thanks again,

3 December 2015, 11:50 PM	#6
morafa4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Alexander Location: New York, NY Watch: 16610, 1675, Cx Posts: 165	Sounds like it could be a 6542 that's had a sapphire coke insert glued into it... There's a slim possibility it might be a darkened/aged bakelite since the blue hemisphere can sometimes appear near black, but seeing as you say its def coke and FADED, it must be a jury-rigged 6542 w/ sapphire insert.

4 December 2015, 02:02 AM	#7
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	If the price is right,I would be happy to buy a 6542 with the wrong insert.A lot of the Bakelite bezel inserts have been changed over the Years.

5 December 2015, 01:54 AM	#8
AnythingButTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: USA Posts: 45	I too have seen original inserts darken to almost black.

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