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Old 24 December 2018, 07:04 PM   #1
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$150,000 in parts for under $500 !!

Looks like someone hit the jackpot!!

5 x Milsub inserts and more, looks like could all be genuine...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watchmake...-/312344603920

There’s more on it here on VRF, you need to read right through to see the pics and conclusion...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...--t248410.html
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Old 24 December 2018, 07:17 PM   #2
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Wow! Only need 1 to be right and you’ve got the jackpot.
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Old 24 December 2018, 07:22 PM   #3
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Amazing.
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Old 24 December 2018, 07:33 PM   #4
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Thank god he didn’t return them after the initial reply from both experts and newbies in various threads. Good to see finds like this even though I sometimes feel for long time watch makers that lose out of big money when they have no clue what they have.

Nice Christmas bonus even if it will be hard to sell these at retail price.
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Old 24 December 2018, 07:49 PM   #5
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Old 24 December 2018, 10:21 PM   #6
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Did read about this on here in another thread the other day and I can’t help feeling it would have been best to have kept quiet about it, maybe just show pics of the parts separately asking if they’re legit.

It’s not like a few hundred quid bonus is it, I’m buzzing if I win a low key auction worth a couple hundred.

What a result for him just hope some jealous donut doesn’t contact the seller and tell him. Knowing my luck I’d end up in some court battle or something and loose it all.
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Old 24 December 2018, 11:43 PM   #7
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Did read about this on here in another thread the other day and I can’t help feeling it would have been best to have kept quiet about it, maybe just show pics of the parts separately asking if they’re legit.

It’s not like a few hundred quid bonus is it, I’m buzzing if I win a low key auction worth a couple hundred.

What a result for him just hope some jealous donut doesn’t contact the seller and tell him. Knowing my luck I’d end up in some court battle or something and loose it all.
I’d feel awful if I’d knowingly ‘stolen’ these parts. I would absolutely work with seller and come to an arrangement.
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Old 25 December 2018, 03:40 AM   #8
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I’d feel awful if I’d knowingly ‘stolen’ these parts. I would absolutely work with seller and come to an arrangement.
Seller is a watch parts dealer with over 4600 eBay sales. Should have known better.
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Old 25 December 2018, 06:17 AM   #9
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Seller is a watch parts dealer with over 4600 eBay sales. Should have known better.
Great moral dichotomy.
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Old 25 December 2018, 06:21 AM   #10
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The seller is well aware of what he sold multiple people contacted him asking if had more and told him the value
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Old 25 December 2018, 06:45 PM   #11
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I’d feel awful if I’d knowingly ‘stolen’ these parts. I would absolutely work with seller and come to an arrangement.


These parts were stolen? I understood they were put into an eBay auction with poor pics and no description?


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Old 25 December 2018, 07:11 PM   #12
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These parts were stolen? I understood they were put into an eBay auction with poor pics and no description?


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No no! Sorry perhaps a poor use of the word, used to describe taking them extremely cheaply without offering seller full knowledge.
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Old 26 December 2018, 01:03 AM   #13
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Rootbeer7, after I have been lied to, cheated and stolen from on eBay, I would happily take a great deal. You are a better person than me.
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Old 26 December 2018, 01:07 AM   #14
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Stolen LOL. This buyer did not take advantage of the seller. It is the sellers obligation and responsibility to know exactly what they are selling so that the item isn’t grossly misrepresented. How are you going to act like the buyer took advantage of the seller. It’s not the buyers job to point out exactly what someone is selling if the seller hasn’t a clue. If you want to inform the seller that’s 100% up too you. This is typical jealousy here. It’s not a crime to get a great deal on eBay. It makes up for all the people who shill bid and make us pay over the moon.
I think you are ill in thought on this one.
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Old 26 December 2018, 01:17 AM   #15
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Stolen LOL. This buyer did not take advantage of the seller. It is the sellers obligation and responsibility to know exactly what they are selling so that the item isn’t grossly misrepresented. How are you going to act like the buyer took advantage of the seller. It’s not the buyers job to point out exactly what someone is selling if the seller hasn’t a clue. If you want to inform the seller that’s 100% up too you. This is typical jealousy here. It’s not a crime to get a great deal on eBay. It makes up for all the people who shill bid and make us pay over the moon.
I think you are ill in thought on this one.
Congratulations on the find, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Let’s not forget, the buyer wasn’t even sure if those inserts were authentic, which is why he sought out the expertise from the experts here and on VRF...and even some of them were, at first, skeptical. So, given that, he went into the purchase assuming a good amount of risk.
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Old 26 December 2018, 01:21 AM   #16
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Really amazing that something like this can still happen in this day and age, with all the info floating around on these things. In one sense, it's a bit of a Christmas miracle story for the buyer. I can only imagine how I'd feel if I was the seller!
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Really amazing that something like this can still happen in this day and age, with all the info floating around on these things. In one sense, it's a bit of a Christmas miracle story for the buyer. I can only imagine how I'd feel if I was the seller!
From what I know he's been having sleepless nights knowing he let them go for peanuts
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That’s about as cruel as it gets, rubbing his face in it.


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Old 26 December 2018, 03:47 AM   #19
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From what I know he's been having sleepless nights knowing he let them go for peanuts
How many people who were following the auction or actually were bidding but folded their hand early are also having sleepless nights? I know I would be.

SouthTexas, I agree. Maybe not all but how many of them got their pleasure in sharing that info with the seller.
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Old 26 December 2018, 03:53 AM   #20
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That’s about as cruel as it gets, rubbing his face in it.


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I agree. Very cruel.

I also think it’s likewise undeserving to criticize the buyer. The guy buys a Lot of parts off EBay, and there are calls for him to pay the seller more because it’s later discovered said parts are worth more? I agree with the comment this is more about other jealous collectors. Who amongst us doesn’t wish we could find a barn find for a song. Lighten up.


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Old 26 December 2018, 04:21 AM   #21
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I’d feel awful if I’d knowingly ‘stolen’ these parts. I would absolutely work with seller and come to an arrangement.


Lol what?! You bid on something at an auction house that’s worth more than what you paid. And you would want to create an arrangement to pay the fair value? Isn’t that the point of an auction?


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Old 26 December 2018, 04:40 AM   #22
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And, UncleLuck summed it up succinctly, before you knew what happened you would be writing a check out to a law firm to represent you in a case where you are being accused of some misdeed and recovery of anything from a "fair" percentage up to the return of the items altogether.

Who knows, ebay might even suspend your account.

Unless you like worms it is best to leave the can of them unopened.
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Old 26 December 2018, 06:22 AM   #25
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Rootbeer7, after I have been lied to, cheated and stolen from on eBay, I would happily take a great deal. You are a better person than me.
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Stolen LOL. This buyer did not take advantage of the seller. It is the sellers obligation and responsibility to know exactly what they are selling so that the item isn’t grossly misrepresented. How are you going to act like the buyer took advantage of the seller. It’s not the buyers job to point out exactly what someone is selling if the seller hasn’t a clue. If you want to inform the seller that’s 100% up too you. This is typical jealousy here. It’s not a crime to get a great deal on eBay. It makes up for all the people who shill bid and make us pay over the moon.
I think you are ill in thought on this one.
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Chaps, I’m far from a saint. But, I genuinely couldn’t sleep thinking I’d taken advantage of someone. I think the key here is the value. It’s potentially life-changing sums. Anyway, it’s all hypothetical, because it didn’t happen to me!!
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Old 26 December 2018, 06:40 AM   #26
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Chaps, I’m far from a saint. But, I genuinely couldn’t sleep thinking I’d taken advantage of someone. I think the key here is the value. It’s potentially life-changing sums. Anyway, it’s all hypothetical, because it didn’t happen to me!!
I could sleep very well. The buyer should be rewarded for his knowledge and for taking a risk. The buyer didn't "take advantage" of anyone. He gambled and won.
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Old 26 December 2018, 06:50 AM   #27
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It was an auction. Dozens of bidders determined the final price. There is no moral dilemma here.
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Old 26 December 2018, 07:15 AM   #28
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From what I know he's been having sleepless nights knowing he let them go for peanuts
Someone likes their grapes sour!
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Old 26 December 2018, 09:05 AM   #29
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That's not like taking advantage of knowing exactly what your friends Grandmother has when she asks how much it would be worth and if you'd like to buy them and telling her its not worth much when it's worth a lot...that was a legit eBay auction, and he won...I don't see any swindling going on here at all.
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If every time you bought something at auction you had to reimburse the seller for the difference between what you paid and what the lot was worth, who would bother? Commerce would crawl to a halt and we'd be back in the dark ages.
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