114270 - Solid 3 6 9 numerals (no white in fill) - Whats going on here?

[UK_solly]

As far as I can tell/research, the 114270 always came with some sort of white (non lumed) paint filling the white gold 3 6 9 arabic numerals.

This appears to hold correct even after the rehaut came in around 2007.

What do we think is going on with this example below?

2007 (rehaut) Z serial. But appears to have solid white gold 3 6 9, no infill.

Fake dial? Service dial? Manufacturing fault?

[rmlovett1]

That is the correct dial. The next version Exp had the lumed numerals. I believe that dial and 39mm case came out in 2010 and was discontinued in 2016

[kittansett]

I thought that the mark 1 dials have short hands? This seems to have long hands. Perhaps the hands are replacement?

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by UK_solly

As far as I can tell/research, the 114270 always came with some sort of white (non lumed) paint filling the white gold 3 6 9 arabic numerals.

This appears to hold correct even after the rehaut came in around 2007.

What do we think is going on with this example below?

2007 (rehaut) Z serial. But appears to have solid white gold 3 6 9, no infill.

Fake dial? Service dial? Manufacturing fault?

There was a so callled blackout model on the 14270:

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-bl...-explorer.html

Not sure if that also appeared on some 114270’s. What’s your watch serial letter ?

Originally Posted by kittansett

I thought that the mark 1 dials have short hands? This seems to have long hands. Perhaps the hands are replacement?

Mark 1 refers to the 214270 39 mm model, he’s asking about the 36 mm 114270 model.


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[UK_solly]

Its a 2007 Z Serial.

Every other 114270 dial I can find a picture of has the non lumed white fill. E.g. of another watch.

[UK_solly]

Originally Posted by kittansett

I thought that the mark 1 dials have short hands? This seems to have long hands. Perhaps the hands are replacement?

I see why you mentioned the mark 1 dial now. As its the only one to ever have had the solid white gold 3 6 9 with no paint inside. But the mark 1 never came in 36mm, so the plot thickens.

(Mark 1 dial also had "Explorer" in bottom half of the dial, not the top). Pic below for reference. (the 3 6 9 on this dial to look remarkably identical to the 3 6 9 on the original watch in question).


The plot thickens...

[UK_solly]

Any thoughts guys? I’ve searched 100s pics and cannot find similar. Cannot even find any fakes that look the same! Thanks.

[CarlOver]

Could that be a reflection of light?

[kopi-c]

Originally Posted by UK_solly

As far as I can tell/research, the 114270 always came with some sort of white (non lumed) paint filling the white gold 3 6 9 arabic numerals.

This appears to hold correct even after the rehaut came in around 2007.

What do we think is going on with this example below?

2007 (rehaut) Z serial. But appears to have solid white gold 3 6 9, no infill.

Fake dial? Service dial? Manufacturing fault?

It does not look genuine. Take it to a Rolex RSC and see if they will service/touch it.

[DM101]

I have the Z series Explorer 114270 bought from AD - the 3-6-9 has lum (white filll u call it, glow in the dark GREEN in color dim though as the lum is little)

Explorer 39mm Mark 1 has 3-6-9 with no lum and the text "EXPLORER" is placed on the lower half of the dial.

Your pics shared showed "EXPLORER" on the top half of the dial which is correct for 114270 but the 3-6-9 MUST HAVE lum

My Z-series does come with rehaut and serial number engraved at 6 o'clock

Your piece is "fishy" can't tell from the pics if genuine but if is genuine the dial might had been using the wrong 3-6-9 meant for the 39mm (however I find this very unlikely Rolex QC can't be that sloppy)

Get it verified for peace of mine.... hope this helps

[UK_solly]

Thanks all for your input. Super valuable to get your sentiment. There was also some issues with the lume. I ended up returning the watch and getting a refund from the dealer.

[WatchGuy1966]

all 39mm Explorers have "explorer" in the bottom half of the dial
and they are 214270

[DM101]

Originally Posted by UK_solly

Thanks all for your input. Super valuable to get your sentiment. There was also some issues with the lume. I ended up returning the watch and getting a refund from the dealer.

Good to hear everything works out

[painexpert]

The dial is correct.

[Mick006]

Originally Posted by painexpert

The dial is correct.

I disagree. I agree with the OP. This is not correct for this reference.

I have an 114270 from 2008. The Arabic numerals have white fill but no lume. As far as I am aware, this is the case for every 114270.

I do not believe the dial is genuine.