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mfer · 30 July 2015, 11:31 PM

As you can guess, I'm considering this one. I read how the dial is chameleon like and shimmers, etc. Basically, a lot of praise of this dial.

Well, I saw a 5164 yesterday as I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a 5167; however, I didn't find the dial all that chameleon or shimmery. It seem very matte and muted to me.

Case finish, amazing.
Movement, amazing.
Hand size, PERFECT.
dial, ok.

This is not mean to be a bash to the aquanaut, but more of a "what am I missing here?" You guys are smart guys. Was the lighting bad or something? Does it change with the light in the day? My LVc changes with a turn, I didn't experience that with the 5164. Maybe the dial has more going on with the 5164 complication that takes away from the dial simplicity and "shimmer".

Thoughts?

Flex368 · 30 July 2015, 11:38 PM

I can only speak for the 5167 but I can assure you that the dial is simply amazing. Don´t worry.

onthemoney · 30 July 2015, 11:40 PM

I think its easier to see with the clean dial 5167 for sure.
The dial certainly looks different under different lighting.

And also shows much more on the 5711 than on the 5712.

You will love the dial of the 5167 I assure you.
Summer look, that dial bursts, and the rubber bracelet is so comfortable.

I didn't pick it because it didn't feel as special as the 5711 to me.
I found that the 5167 looks very ordinary at night, especially when dressed up.
The 5711 still works incredibly.
Oh and in an ideal world I would be able to justify both - I simply can't do that.

Looking forward to an incoming thread!!

mfer · 30 July 2015, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex368

I can only speak for the 5167 but I can assure you that the dial is simply amazing. Don´t worry.

That looks more "sunburst" to me. I didn't see that on my test drive at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onthemoney

I think its easier to see with the clean dial 5167 for sure.
The dial certainly looks different under different lighting.

And also shows much more on the 5711 than on the 5712.

You will love the dial of the 5167 I assure you.
Summer look, that dial bursts, and the rubber bracelet is so comfortable.

I didn't pick it because it didn't feel as special as the 5711 to me.
I found that the 5167 looks very ordinary at night, especially when dressed up.
The 5711 still works incredibly.
Oh and in an ideal world I would be able to justify both - I simply can't do that.

Looking forward to an incoming thread!!

Let's not get ahead of ourselves on the incoming. I want to love it and right now, I'm not sure.

kilyung · 31 July 2015, 12:15 AM

It was probably just the lighting at the AD. The 5164/5167 do have sunburst dials.

Flex368 · 31 July 2015, 03:11 AM

Returning from the grocery store I just took another photo in the evening sun - just for you.

Something´s must have been wrong while you were checking it out - either with the watch, the lighting or your eyes.

And now let´s see an incoming thread...

ap1 · 31 July 2015, 03:13 AM

did you try the thing on in a darkroom? this dial rocks 5167 > 5164 for the cleaner effect. both those watches rock.

mfer · 31 July 2015, 03:35 AM

I don't know. It just didn't look great. As I study the dial as well, the number finish just seems a little off. 10, 2 and 9.

dysondiver · 31 July 2015, 03:49 AM

maybe its the plastic sticker that protects things throwing you off

Syed117 · 31 July 2015, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

I don't know. It just didn't look great. As I study the dial as well, the number finish just seems a little off. 10, 2 and 9.

To be honest, the numbers do look a little crude in that picture compared to all the others.

CWIN · 31 July 2015, 04:30 AM

IMHO, the dial is sensational and ranges from the dark gray too a brownish hue depending on light. Looks much better outdoors but hard to capture photographically, at least for me

theflywrist · 31 July 2015, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

I don't know. It just didn't look great. As I study the dial as well, the number finish just seems a little off. 10, 2 and 9.

What is up with that number 3 though.

AK797 · 31 July 2015, 04:35 AM

Chris is right, get it out in the sun, or at least by the AD's window to see it at its best. As for numbers, they are raised and they can look strange, all depends on angle on lighting.

HorologyK · 31 July 2015, 05:36 AM

The three looks off

lovej · 31 July 2015, 06:15 AM

I think the dial execution trumps both the finishing and the movement on my 5167

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ansharma · 31 July 2015, 06:24 AM

The dial is the best thing about this watch. I do find it dull sometimes but then it pops at the right angle or light.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Anuj

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de66 · 31 July 2015, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syed117

To be honest, the numbers do look a little crude in that picture compared to all the others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazypilot

What is up with that number 3 though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HorologyK

The three looks off

Where did you find this one?
Maybe its the plastic liner and the light refraction but in addition to the above comments I also think the number 4 is not as crisp as the other 5164 pics here in this thread.
If this watch is at an AD then I would not worry, then its pretty sure to be the pic/plastic. These dials do have a sunburst and imo are just as nice as the one I have on my naut.

ap1 · 31 July 2015, 08:30 AM

.

subtona · 31 July 2015, 08:32 AM

Dial is as nice as any:)

ap1 · 31 July 2015, 08:33 AM

I'd like to log additional evidence against the prosecution

ap1 · 31 July 2015, 08:34 AM

One more

mfer · 31 July 2015, 08:36 AM

You guys are funny (and awesome).

My heart is telling me no, but you all say buy buy buy!

simongpaez · 31 July 2015, 09:02 AM

The most important is what you feel, it is a lot of money to just settle, in my mind it has to be awesome or move to the next one

HorologyK · 31 July 2015, 09:23 AM

After seeing all these great 67 shots I think my quest to flip and own a 5164 have ended.

CWIN · 31 July 2015, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

You guys are funny (and awesome).

My heart is telling me no, but you all say buy buy buy!

I would pass on it if you're heart isn't in it Mik but as I've said before, you'd make out OK if you buy right and decide to flip later

zama · 31 July 2015, 10:39 AM

Awesome piece

red1108nyc · 31 July 2015, 11:36 AM

Buddy Mik!

I am so glad you got to give it a test drive. Three points:

1) There is sunburst effect but only with stronger lighting. You see some here:

2) The more important point and as Chris had mentioned, the watch has to WOW you. Regardless of its popularity, the watch has to rock your boat when you have it on the wrist and sing to you($17K can do a lot of things in life to wow you many times over). Perhaps try on the smurf too and see it that sings to you more?

Tricky part is these GOTCHA moments don't always come on day one. 5164 was ok when I tried it on initially but after owning it for a few months, I was like man.. this is an amazing watch. On the other hand and after owning the 5711 for a month, I realized it was not for me. Different stroke for different folks so it is all good.

3) Note 5167 case thickness is closer to 5711 and it is much thinner than the 5164. Please see Mike's previous post for comparison:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

It is your hard earned dollar so definitely go about it your way!

Fred

kneedeep · 31 July 2015, 11:49 AM

And another

GB-man · 31 July 2015, 01:11 PM

Sounds like you should def hold off Mik. Although the dial is top notch and easily my favorite part of the 5167

Melvin_arnold · 31 July 2015, 05:53 PM

Go for it, the dial is really something special once you get it out and about

30 July 2015, 11:31 PM	#1
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	5167 dial question As you can guess, I'm considering this one. I read how the dial is chameleon like and shimmers, etc. Basically, a lot of praise of this dial. Well, I saw a 5164 yesterday as I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a 5167; however, I didn't find the dial all that chameleon or shimmery. It seem very matte and muted to me. Case finish, amazing. Movement, amazing. Hand size, PERFECT. dial, ok. This is not mean to be a bash to the aquanaut, but more of a "what am I missing here?" You guys are smart guys. Was the lighting bad or something? Does it change with the light in the day? My LVc changes with a turn, I didn't experience that with the 5164. Maybe the dial has more going on with the 5164 complication that takes away from the dial simplicity and "shimmer". Thoughts? __________________ member#3242

31 July 2015, 03:35 AM	#8
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	I don't know. It just didn't look great. As I study the dial as well, the number finish just seems a little off. 10, 2 and 9. __________________ member#3242

31 July 2015, 04:30 AM	#11
CWIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego Watch: Patek, AP, Rolex Posts: 4,449	5167 dial question IMHO, the dial is sensational and ranges from the dark gray too a brownish hue depending on light. Looks much better outdoors but hard to capture photographically, at least for me __________________ *Instagram* @cwin

31 July 2015, 08:32 AM	#19
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,054	Dial is as nice as any:) __________________

31 July 2015, 08:36 AM	#22
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	You guys are funny (and awesome). My heart is telling me no, but you all say buy buy buy! __________________ member#3242

30 July 2015, 11:38 PM	#2
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,985	I can only speak for the 5167 but I can assure you that the dial is simply amazing. Don´t worry.

30 July 2015, 11:40 PM	#3
onthemoney "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: UK Posts: 150	I think its easier to see with the clean dial 5167 for sure. The dial certainly looks different under different lighting. And also shows much more on the 5711 than on the 5712. You will love the dial of the 5167 I assure you. Summer look, that dial bursts, and the rubber bracelet is so comfortable. I didn't pick it because it didn't feel as special as the 5711 to me. I found that the 5167 looks very ordinary at night, especially when dressed up. The 5711 still works incredibly. Oh and in an ideal world I would be able to justify both - I simply can't do that. Looking forward to an incoming thread!!

31 July 2015, 12:15 AM	#5
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	It was probably just the lighting at the AD. The 5164/5167 do have sunburst dials.

31 July 2015, 03:11 AM	#6
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,985	Returning from the grocery store I just took another photo in the evening sun - just for you. Something´s must have been wrong while you were checking it out - either with the watch, the lighting or your eyes. And now let´s see an incoming thread...

31 July 2015, 03:13 AM	#7
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,152	did you try the thing on in a darkroom? this dial rocks 5167 > 5164 for the cleaner effect. both those watches rock.

31 July 2015, 03:49 AM	#9
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	maybe its the plastic sticker that protects things throwing you off

31 July 2015, 04:35 AM	#13
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,298	Chris is right, get it out in the sun, or at least by the AD's window to see it at its best. As for numbers, they are raised and they can look strange, all depends on angle on lighting.

31 July 2015, 05:36 AM	#14
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,357	The three looks off

31 July 2015, 06:15 AM	#15
lovej "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: James Location: Melbourne Watch: 15400 Posts: 246	I think the dial execution trumps both the finishing and the movement on my 5167 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 July 2015, 06:24 AM	#16
ansharma "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Watch: Lange 1 Moonphase Posts: 1,789	The dial is the best thing about this watch. I do find it dull sometimes but then it pops at the right angle or light. Hope this helps. Cheers Anuj Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

31 July 2015, 09:02 AM	#23
simongpaez "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Simon Location: Houston Watch: Some Posts: 1,109	The most important is what you feel, it is a lot of money to just settle, in my mind it has to be awesome or move to the next one

31 July 2015, 09:23 AM	#24
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,357	After seeing all these great 67 shots I think my quest to flip and own a 5164 have ended.

31 July 2015, 11:49 AM	#28
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	And another

31 July 2015, 01:11 PM	#29
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,973	Sounds like you should def hold off Mik. Although the dial is top notch and easily my favorite part of the 5167

31 July 2015, 05:53 PM	#30
Melvin_arnold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Melvin Location: Sydney Watch: TV Posts: 392	Go for it, the dial is really something special once you get it out and about

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