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14 August 2020, 12:26 AM | #1 |
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Used complication under 20k?
Hi all, I've been looking to get a vintage Patek and am really attracted to its complications. Is it possible (or advisable) to get a used complication for under 20k? Mainly looking at the annual calendar but looking at 5134 as well. Welcoming any advise or comments. Also, how long/much does it take to send a used watch to Patek to verify authenticity? Thank you!
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14 August 2020, 01:40 AM | #2 |
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Unfortunately it’s unlikely at that price point unless you consider a date or seconds hand a complication . You can look at Chrono24 for an idea of what you can get for $20k. There are a few 5035s (AC) but that’s about it for a complication.
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As above poster mentioned, you can get an idea of used prices for a 5035 and 5134 on chrono24. There may be some for sale under $20k. If possible, it is best to see a used watch in person and try it on your wrist. What looks good on online photos may look quite different when seen in person.
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14 August 2020, 02:42 AM | #5 |
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There's a 5035 on eBay at $19995 right now with make offer.
I'd save a bit more and try to find a nicer piece though - 5146... a few thousand here goes a long way in my opinion. Also, there's a rule with watches : buy the seller first. I wouldn't have to send a watch to PP for verification because I would research the seller I am buying it from.
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PP 5085 is a fantastic value and right in your price range.
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14 August 2020, 07:45 PM | #8 |
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Get a Lange
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Depends on who the seller is - I purchased my Breguet Tradition on Chrono 24 last year. It was a simple process and transaction. I did research the seller and he was indeed the real deal - brick & mortar and well known in the watch world - actually affiliated with a few brands. Lots of good sellers out there but lots of bad ones as well. Just make sure you know who you are doing business with - if a problem arises do you trust this seller to make it right? That’s the ultimate question. Yes some of the pieces and prices in foreign countries are tempting - what it something goes awry... how quickly and easily can you get it resolved? Customs? Etc. I personally would only buy from Chrono 24 from a US seller with very good references and verifiable information. Brick & mortar etc. worst case if something were to happen I can rely on the courts in the US or take a trip there - Covid aside. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I'm looking at this 5035 on Chrono for 16k... suspiciously cheap, about 2-3k cheaper than the next ones. I know it doesn't come with a Calatrava logo deployant buckle, box, or papers, but other than that can't tell from the pics why it is so cheap. |
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If your looking for complicated watch with finish and quality up there with Patek, then Lange is a great option to consider! Highly under rated and under priced in preowned.
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That's the problem - if you still want to send it in for authentication you're buying from the wrong seller.
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I see the watch in question - it's in NYC
Quick research shows its at a dealer on 47th Street called Quark NYC. https://quarknyc.com/product/patek-philippe/
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Might be just me, but if I see a Patek ‘no box, no papers’ I assume one of two things:
1. The watch was stolen and pawned 2. Someone had to pawn it so you would profit from human misery Call me snobbish but I would not touch it for a few thousands in saving. P.S. Looking at the link above the watch comes with box and papers - if you don’t mind YG (I do) then go for it, seems like a great deal. |
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PP 5085. Great bang for your buck and 1st ‘complicated’ PP sports watch.
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Not a fan of the asymmetrical face. Looks too funky for me. |
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can you save longer and pick up a 5130g? Modern size at 39mm and looks so cool!
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I think the 5134R-011 is one of the most underrated Patek models and wish I had bought one new when they were available, if I come across a well used one I’ll snap it up and send it in for a service/refurb, I can see it being a future classic.
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