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Murcielagoboy2 · 11 August 2020, 05:33 AM

Pick one of the above please.

- I’ll be trading my dear 5170j for it.
- I’ve already got a 5070j which I love. Is two 5070s daft?
- I hanker after a Grand Comp and the 3970 fits the bill but the 5070 is more beautiful to my eyes.
- I’m indifferent to size. 36mm or 42mm doesn’t matter to me.
- Either watch will be worn all the time. I don’t subscribe to the view that a “dress watch” is to be worn formally

PS. Finally, please don’t suggest any Nautilus/Aquanaut, I’m not on Instagram (and I’ve got my fill of them already too)

JorgeCCW · 11 August 2020, 05:39 AM

Easy for me , 5070R
Used to be a fan of grand complications , but I care less and less as time pass by

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Tay821 · 11 August 2020, 05:46 AM

If you've got a large enough wrist, I'd go 5070r all day

rolex_addict · 11 August 2020, 06:00 AM

3970 is a masterpiece

SL BRABUS · 11 August 2020, 08:21 AM

5070R......

Nat123 · 11 August 2020, 08:24 AM

I usually favor diversity within a collection and would therefore go 3970.
I think the 5070 J and R are close enough to tip the balance toward the 3970.
Both choices are beautiful and represent classic Patek IMHO

ap1 · 11 August 2020, 08:46 AM

3970 for me. 5070 case isn’t for me

barneb10 · 11 August 2020, 08:50 AM

I respect the 5070 tremendously, but my heart says the 3970 by a mile.

Bearxj86 · 11 August 2020, 09:54 AM

3970J all day

Ichiran · 11 August 2020, 10:05 AM

I struggle with the smaller details on the 3970 dial. I will go for the 5970 or 5270 if I'm after a PCC.

I'm also not a fan of the 5070, as the proportion of the front and back bezels looks off to me. Prefer the cleaner and single railway track of the 5170.

If I'm in your position, I will consider selling both the 5070 and 5170 to get either the 5970 or 5270.

d11n · 11 August 2020, 12:11 PM

3970...it is such a great piece, it will always be a legacy watch worth having. You didn't ask but the 'in between' answer in my opinion .... is the 5970, but it likely would run 30-40% more than a 3970 so it obviously changes the equation.

I came close to buying the 5270 (I asked for the 100th time in a thread 5270 vs 5970), the over whelming answer was to try them on...I'm really glad I did. It was a struggle with our restricted times but I managed to try on a 3970, 5970, and 5270...for me it became obvious (like a click) that the 5970 was for me so I adjusted to that plan. If you are ok with 41mm which it sounds like you are given the 42mm 5070...also in the category of you didn't ask.. the 5270P Salmon is really nice and seems to be highly available on the secondary market or at a decent discount at an AD, for me it was too big...but to pay it forward...try it on and you likely will know.

Passionata · 11 August 2020, 07:09 PM

when 5070 then J

Russell996 · 11 August 2020, 07:47 PM

3970 all day everyday. 5070 is a floored design in my eyes.

enjoythemusic · 11 August 2020, 09:49 PM

Another vote for the 3970.

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jon_jon · 11 August 2020, 11:08 PM

For a PCC, the 3970 is a great value watch and reasonably priced. The proportion of thickness vs diameter is not optimal and is better on its replacements, the 5970 and 5270.

Still I would recommend the 3970 over getting a second 5070. I also find the proportions of the 5070 a bit off compared to its replacement the 5170.

As always, my recommendation is to try on the watches on the wrist before making a purchase.

Henry.hoe · 12 August 2020, 02:05 AM

I will go for the PP3970. This is a Patek classic.

11 August 2020, 05:33 AM	#1
Murcielagoboy2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: London Posts: 431	5070R vs 3970J Pick one of the above please. - I’ll be trading my dear 5170j for it. - I’ve already got a 5070j which I love. Is two 5070s daft? - I hanker after a Grand Comp and the 3970 fits the bill but the 5070 is more beautiful to my eyes. - I’m indifferent to size. 36mm or 42mm doesn’t matter to me. - Either watch will be worn all the time. I don’t subscribe to the view that a “dress watch” is to be worn formally PS. Finally, please don’t suggest any Nautilus/Aquanaut, I’m not on Instagram (and I’ve got my fill of them already too)

11 August 2020, 05:39 AM	#2
JorgeCCW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Jorge Location: Ohio, USA Watch: Rolex,Patek and AP Posts: 4,675	Easy for me , 5070R Used to be a fan of grand complications , but I care less and less as time pass by Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing happens until something moves " Albert Einstein

11 August 2020, 08:21 AM	#5
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345	5070R...... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

11 August 2020, 07:09 PM	#12
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	when 5070 then J __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

11 August 2020, 09:49 PM	#14
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,406	Another vote for the 3970. 3970er.jpg __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

11 August 2020, 05:46 AM	#3
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	If you've got a large enough wrist, I'd go 5070r all day

11 August 2020, 06:00 AM	#4
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	3970 is a masterpiece

11 August 2020, 08:24 AM	#6
Nat123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA Posts: 103	I usually favor diversity within a collection and would therefore go 3970. I think the 5070 J and R are close enough to tip the balance toward the 3970. Both choices are beautiful and represent classic Patek IMHO

11 August 2020, 08:46 AM	#7
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,034	3970 for me. 5070 case isn’t for me

11 August 2020, 08:50 AM	#8
barneb10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 379	I respect the 5070 tremendously, but my heart says the 3970 by a mile.

11 August 2020, 09:54 AM	#9
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,800	3970J all day

11 August 2020, 10:05 AM	#10
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,598	I struggle with the smaller details on the 3970 dial. I will go for the 5970 or 5270 if I'm after a PCC. I'm also not a fan of the 5070, as the proportion of the front and back bezels looks off to me. Prefer the cleaner and single railway track of the 5170. If I'm in your position, I will consider selling both the 5070 and 5170 to get either the 5970 or 5270.

11 August 2020, 12:11 PM	#11
d11n "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: UTC/GMT -8 hours Watch: yes Posts: 415	3970...it is such a great piece, it will always be a legacy watch worth having. You didn't ask but the 'in between' answer in my opinion .... is the 5970, but it likely would run 30-40% more than a 3970 so it obviously changes the equation. I came close to buying the 5270 (I asked for the 100th time in a thread 5270 vs 5970), the over whelming answer was to try them on...I'm really glad I did. It was a struggle with our restricted times but I managed to try on a 3970, 5970, and 5270...for me it became obvious (like a click) that the 5970 was for me so I adjusted to that plan. If you are ok with 41mm which it sounds like you are given the 42mm 5070...also in the category of you didn't ask.. the 5270P Salmon is really nice and seems to be highly available on the secondary market or at a decent discount at an AD, for me it was too big...but to pay it forward...try it on and you likely will know.

11 August 2020, 07:47 PM	#13
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,173	3970 all day everyday. 5070 is a floored design in my eyes.

11 August 2020, 11:08 PM	#15
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,341	For a PCC, the 3970 is a great value watch and reasonably priced. The proportion of thickness vs diameter is not optimal and is better on its replacements, the 5970 and 5270. Still I would recommend the 3970 over getting a second 5070. I also find the proportions of the 5070 a bit off compared to its replacement the 5170. As always, my recommendation is to try on the watches on the wrist before making a purchase.

12 August 2020, 02:05 AM	#16
Henry.hoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Singapore Posts: 46	I will go for the PP3970. This is a Patek classic.

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