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Rolex....andPorsches · 5 October 2020, 12:07 AM

Hey guys - I have a PAM 441 which I'm very pleased with. However, I'm finding daytime legibility somewhat difficult due to the brown-ish fauxtina vs the matte black. Possibly it's just my eyes and others have no trouble

Although unorthodox - is there a way I can change the faux-tina for a white or lime green? this would require replacing the lume component of the sandwich dial, as well as the hands

Doubting Panerai service center would be willing to do this for me, so perhaps an indi shop?

any thoughts/suggestions appreciated

Dan2010 · 5 October 2020, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex....andPorsches

Hey guys - I have a PAM 441 which I'm very pleased with. However, I'm finding daytime legibility somewhat difficult due to the brown-ish fauxtina vs the matte black. Possibly it's just my eyes and others have no trouble

Although unorthodox - is there a way I can change the faux-tina for a white or lime green? this would require replacing the lume component of the sandwich dial, as well as the hands

Doubting Panerai service center would be willing to do this for me, so perhaps an indi shop?

any thoughts/suggestions appreciated

Honestly, it might be time to add a new watch or sell this one. Pretty sure no one will do it.

duc888 · 5 October 2020, 01:18 AM

I doubt that this has ever been done and that you will find someone to do this.
It sound like you´ve bought the wrong watch (for you). So before starting an expensive and likely unhappy experiment you should sell it and buy a PAM with normal Luminova.

Crashblue · 5 October 2020, 01:20 AM

I’m pretty sure Panerai offers your Modell with a different dial as a different reference.

duc888 · 5 October 2020, 02:58 AM

I can´t remember a reference similar to the 441 with the luminova

enjoythemusic · 5 October 2020, 07:42 AM

Replacement can be done, yet is the effort and expense worth it. Or, probably, it's better to get a different model with the same features or more with lume you love.

KBM · 6 October 2020, 04:16 AM

Too much trouble. Simply find another pam that you like.

Crown2Caliber · 6 October 2020, 12:40 PM

Sell it. There used to be guys that would customize their PAM cases but it’s not necessary to do anything special like that with so many models to choose from. I had a similar PAM to the 441 and sold it for the same reason as you. Looks great but hard to read indoors. Panerai has come to their senses and started putting out better modern looking lume coloring on their newer models. The old stuff is still there too but if you want something new with a black case look at the new 1096 with white lume.

sokoloka · 6 October 2020, 01:14 PM

Lume on my 441 doesn't bother me until I want to put a white strap on it and then it's like "nah, bruh"

arnage · 7 October 2020, 03:25 AM

Not intending to sound a bit facetious, but yes, it will be hard to change something of that nature.

Look into a Pam335. perhaps trade into one, with a little cash on top. Ceramic 1950 case; automatic; domed sapphire - with the white / light green lume. It's objectively better in most ways than the 441! (just my humble opinion)..

pdnb · 26 October 2020, 01:07 PM

Or look for a 317.... love my all black look with white/green lume

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5 October 2020, 12:07 AM	#1
Rolex....andPorsches Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: USA Posts: 42	Replacing faux-tina lume? Hey guys - I have a PAM 441 which I'm very pleased with. However, I'm finding daytime legibility somewhat difficult due to the brown-ish fauxtina vs the matte black. Possibly it's just my eyes and others have no trouble Although unorthodox - is there a way I can change the faux-tina for a white or lime green? this would require replacing the lume component of the sandwich dial, as well as the hands Doubting Panerai service center would be willing to do this for me, so perhaps an indi shop? any thoughts/suggestions appreciated

5 October 2020, 07:42 AM	#6
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,444	Replacement can be done, yet is the effort and expense worth it. Or, probably, it's better to get a different model with the same features or more with lume you love. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

6 October 2020, 01:14 PM	#9
sokoloka "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: San Diego Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,547	Lume on my 441 doesn't bother me until I want to put a white strap on it and then it's like "nah, bruh" __________________ Instagram: @rough.af

5 October 2020, 01:18 AM	#3
duc888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 861	I doubt that this has ever been done and that you will find someone to do this. It sound like you´ve bought the wrong watch (for you). So before starting an expensive and likely unhappy experiment you should sell it and buy a PAM with normal Luminova.

5 October 2020, 01:20 AM	#4
Crashblue "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Munich Posts: 119	I’m pretty sure Panerai offers your Modell with a different dial as a different reference.

5 October 2020, 02:58 AM	#5
duc888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 861	I can´t remember a reference similar to the 441 with the luminova

6 October 2020, 04:16 AM	#7
KBM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,389	Too much trouble. Simply find another pam that you like.

6 October 2020, 12:40 PM	#8
Crown2Caliber "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 17	Sell it. There used to be guys that would customize their PAM cases but it’s not necessary to do anything special like that with so many models to choose from. I had a similar PAM to the 441 and sold it for the same reason as you. Looks great but hard to read indoors. Panerai has come to their senses and started putting out better modern looking lume coloring on their newer models. The old stuff is still there too but if you want something new with a black case look at the new 1096 with white lume.

7 October 2020, 03:25 AM	#10
arnage "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 317	Not intending to sound a bit facetious, but yes, it will be hard to change something of that nature. Look into a Pam335. perhaps trade into one, with a little cash on top. Ceramic 1950 case; automatic; domed sapphire - with the white / light green lume. It's objectively better in most ways than the 441! (just my humble opinion)..

26 October 2020, 01:07 PM	#11
pdnb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The best coast Watch: 5726, 5212 Posts: 637	Or look for a 317.... love my all black look with white/green lume Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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