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15450ST | 26 | 30.23% | |
5167A | 60 | 69.77% | |
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16 January 2020, 06:05 PM | #1 |
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15450ST (blue dial) vs 5167A
Is the blue version of the 15450ST objectively a better watch than the 5167A?
It (kind of) competes with the 5711A, has a hacking movement, integrated bracelet, small but wears like a 40mm, probably sturdier than the 5167A, ages really well, is less inflated in price on the grey market, can be resized, and paradoxically both dressier and sportier than the 5167A. The 5167A probably wins on two fronts: brand value and modesty. What is the general opinion here? |
16 January 2020, 06:37 PM | #2 |
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If you removed the PP name on the 5167 no one would buy it
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16 January 2020, 06:44 PM | #3 |
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I like both. But I chose the 15450 (two of them in fact, one blue dial and one silver dial) because i think it’s a better looking watch.
The rubber strap on the Aquanaut is a big plus, I’d love to be able to put a rubber strap on one of the Oaks. That said, the metal bracelet on the Aquanaut offends me deeply, so it’s rubber only as far as I’m concerned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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16 January 2020, 09:13 PM | #4 |
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You asked about an AP on the Patek board. I think it'd be fair if you open a poll on the AP side. I think the votes would turn in AP's favour
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16 January 2020, 10:00 PM | #5 |
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I really wanted to like the 15450, had chances to buy blue and silver , but just didn’t like the proportions and think the 5167 (which I bought @ msrp) is a much more attractive and comfortable watch.
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I would take a RO over a basic Aqua, nicer dial and bracelet, but if you want to join the PP family, which is a very valid desire, then the Aqua is a great start.
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Nicely put. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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16 January 2020, 10:57 PM | #8 |
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I gave up a royal oak 15202 for an Aqua. Had no regrets. changing the date on the RO after not wearing a few days was a massive PIA
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Why was it hard to change the date on the RO? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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16 January 2020, 11:24 PM | #11 |
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I would take the 15450, especially in blue.Very elegant and a timeless classic. Personally, the 5167 does nothing for me, never warmed up to that dial.
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That’s interesting. Thanks for the info. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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16 January 2020, 11:28 PM | #14 |
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RO being 37mm in size vs the Aquanaut 40mm (if I recalled correctly). Which size is better fit for you?
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16 January 2020, 11:46 PM | #16 |
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I would pick 5167A
Although the 5711 would be a better comparison, any PP is heads and tails a better watch. I like the way the 5167 looks on a bracelet. I know I am not objective still getting over my a$$ being burnt having owned a 15450. I loved the way it looked, fit great (as you noted it wears big) and iconic. I just have first hand experiences with the quality control at AP. Not impressed.
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17 January 2020, 01:47 AM | #18 |
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If you are after 37mm, then its a no brainer. I just find that a bit too small for my liking.
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These are really different watches imho.
The Aquanaut with the rubber strap is the lowest key but very subtlety elegant sport piece that can be worn anywhere from showering, swimming, to the board room no problemo. The Royal oak can serves these purposes but will look out of place when you are naked or just on the beach. It is more dressy, more aggressive and louder. The right answer is both. However, if you are a more low key individual, go for the 5167. If you want a statement piece and want wrist presence, the 15450 is amazing. I would wear an aquanaut overseas to travel and feel more comfortable in shady areas, the royal oak is going to attract attention. If you have a steel submariner, go for the royal oak. If you don't and don't have a all purpose piece, go for the aquanaut. |
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17 January 2020, 03:36 AM | #22 |
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Something more in proportion I would think. An Offshore should do it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The 5167, on the other hand, is my favorite everyday watch. I wear it for travel, work, and play. I personally like the bracelet, but do switch over to the rubber strap in short sleeve weather. So I think the answer lies in the intended purpose of the watch and the existing collection. If it is an "only watch" I think the 5167 is the way to go. If there's an everyday watch already, then I'd get a Royal Oak. My answer to this question was to get both an Aquanaut and Royal Oak. |
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17 January 2020, 10:37 AM | #27 |
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Lack of WR is a dealbreaker for me so the choice is pretty obvious.
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