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Old 20 January 2020, 12:01 AM   #1
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AP Novice - Carbon vs Ceramic vs Titanium

Hello,
I have always wanted an AP Offshore. Looking at the 44mm Chronograph series. I would like a lightweight daily nice watch on a rubber strap. I find my manual wind Panerai and my SD43 not that comfortable to sleep/shower etc. I wear my Casio Protrek most of the time (solar, nuclear time set, light weight). The Casio is a great watch, but a bit beat up.

My questions for the forum:
1) what is the weight diff of the 44mm case in steel vs titanium vs carbon vs ceramic? I tried on a 44mm forged carbon fiber 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01. Felt awesome and light.
2) Any advantage/disadvantage of forged carbon fiber vs Titanium vs Ceramic cases in the AP 44mm line?
3) I am not loving the new wide pushers on the AP Chronos vs the older buttons like on the 26207IO.OO.A002CA.01 Sebastien Buemi model. Thoughts?
4) Thoughts on buying a limited production piece vs a non?

thanks in advance for your advice,
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Old 20 January 2020, 12:33 AM   #2
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Hello,
I have always wanted an AP Offshore. Looking at the 44mm Chronograph series. I would like a lightweight daily nice watch on a rubber strap. I find my manual wind Panerai and my SD43 not that comfortable to sleep/shower etc. I wear my Casio Protrek most of the time (solar, nuclear time set, light weight). The Casio is a great watch, but a bit beat up.

My questions for the forum:
1) what is the weight diff of the 44mm case in steel vs titanium vs carbon vs ceramic? I tried on a 44mm forged carbon fiber 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01. Felt awesome and light.
2) Any advantage/disadvantage of forged carbon fiber vs Titanium vs Ceramic cases in the AP 44mm line?
3) I am not loving the new wide pushers on the AP Chronos vs the older buttons like on the 26207IO.OO.A002CA.01 Sebastien Buemi model. Thoughts?
4) Thoughts on buying a limited production piece vs a non?

thanks in advance for your advice,
Marc
For question number one, I recommend just going on AP's website to look up the weight specifically; but in terms of order it'd be carbon, ceramic, titanium, and steel, although I'd say that the difference is going to be negligible between carbon, ceramic, and titanium.

For number two, the titanium will be most likely to scratch, the forged carbon would be the second but in reality it's unlikely as the case is pretty resilient, and ceramic won't scratch at all.

For number three, it's a matter of preference, personally I like the rectangular pushers more than the buttons.

Last one is a matter of personal preference.
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Old 20 January 2020, 12:45 AM   #3
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For question number one, I recommend just going on AP's website to look up the weight specifically; but in terms of order it'd be carbon, ceramic, titanium, and steel, although I'd say that the difference is going to be negligible between carbon, ceramic, and titanium.

For number two, the titanium will be most likely to scratch, the forged carbon would be the second but in reality it's unlikely as the case is pretty resilient, and ceramic won't scratch at all.

For number three, it's a matter of preference, personally I like the rectangular pushers more than the buttons.

Last one is a matter of personal preference.
thank you. I looked on the website under specs and they do not list weight.
https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa....OO.A004CA.01/
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I recently tried on the forged carbon as well as the titanium and there was no discernible difference.

I prefer some heft so I opted for the gold model. The case design of the 44 is such that the weight is evenly disbursed across the span of your wrist.

For what it’s worth with regard to the pushers the design of the 44mm was what actually drew me to AP.

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Old 20 January 2020, 01:22 AM   #5
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If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.
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Old 20 January 2020, 02:03 AM   #6
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If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.
149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.
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149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.
That's quite interesting, my steel is 188g. That's actually a big weight saving.
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Old 20 January 2020, 02:16 AM   #8
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149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.
Thank you. So i guess the forged carbon is the lightest by quite a lot if you like the look. Some say it looks a little like a Casio G Schock. Hmmmmm

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I heard ceramic doesn’t scratch at all either... what, in your opinion, is the best looking ceramic AP for daily wear?
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Old 20 January 2020, 03:37 AM   #10
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That's quite interesting, my steel is 188g. That's actually a big weight saving.
Well, ceramic, carbon, Ti are all pretty much a weight class unto themselves, then steel, then gold, then Pt
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I heard ceramic doesn’t scratch at all either... what, in your opinion, is the best looking ceramic AP for daily wear?
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If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.
I was told....

Forged carbon- 119

Titanium- 150

Ceramic- 149

But who knows. LOL
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Old 20 January 2020, 06:42 AM   #16
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Which do you prefer in terms of look and style.. ? I generally like titanium more than any other metal. I own watches in all the metals and carbon and ceramic but if a choice I like titanium.. Relatively light and just generally prefer the look.
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So the trade off is the FC might be lighter but is more open to wear and tear, seen a few examples of damage over the years, the CE will be more durable, esp if you plan to sleep with it on and you are a mover.
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Old 20 January 2020, 07:00 AM   #18
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26405CG best of both worlds

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Old 20 January 2020, 08:01 AM   #19
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Which do you prefer in terms of look and style.. ? I generally like titanium more than any other metal. I own watches in all the metals and carbon and ceramic but if a choice I like titanium.. Relatively light and just generally prefer the look.
I do like the Titanium look as well. This is the one I was eyeing.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...id13166562.htm
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26405CG best of both worlds

Love that one as well. How much does it weigh and is it comfortable for extended wear? I feel bad buying expensive watches that sit in the safe.
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I think you would be better off to take a drive to your local dealer to get all of your questions answered. More so when it comes to sizing, wear and fit.
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I think you would be better off to take a drive to your local dealer to get all of your questions answered. More so when it comes to sizing, wear and fit.
I walked down 47th street in NYC. Very little AP inventory. I tried this one on and reallly liked it. Thank you everyone for your valuable input. Appreciate it.

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I walked down 47th street in NYC. Very little AP inventory. I tried this one on and reallly liked it. Thank you everyone for your valuable input. Appreciate it.

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You bought it? I hope so, nice.
Nope...just started hunting. Literally, the first AP i ever held in my hand. Really nice under the radar watch. I feel like only watch enthusiasts know AP

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Nope...just started hunting. Literally, the first AP i ever held in my hand. Really nice under the radar watch. I feel like only watch enthusiasts know AP

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It would be a great first AP and great last AP. I love the all black stealth look.
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It would be a great first AP and great last AP. I love the all black stealth look.
This was my other thought...but I felt the bezel click did not exude a sense of quality.


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I do like the Titanium look as well. This is the one I was eyeing.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...id13166562.htm
If you like this one, I saw one for a better price in the classifieds section

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If you like this one, I saw one for a better price in the classifieds section

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thank you. looking now.
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I have the 26405CE, and I really like it. It’s big obviously, but it’s pretty light, so it’s very comfortable to wear frequently or even daily. I’ve had for a year, and it looks brand new - the ceramic is really nice in that regard, you don’t have to worry about scratching it up.

I noticed the Panerai you posted as well. I also have the 1616 which is the 47mm submersible in carbotech. It’s very similar in that it’s large but super, super light. I really love this watch.

I just weighed them, and the AP came in at 147g, and the Panerai was only 111g.
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I have the 26405CE, and I really like it. It’s big obviously, but it’s pretty light, so it’s very comfortable to wear frequently or even daily. I’ve had for a year, and it looks brand new - the ceramic is really nice in that regard, you don’t have to worry about scratching it up.



I noticed the Panerai you posted as well. I also have the 1616 which is the 47mm submersible in carbotech. It’s very similar in that it’s large but super, super light. I really love this watch.



I just weighed them, and the AP came in at 147g, and the Panerai was only 111g.
Thank you. Great info.

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