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Silver Bullet · 9 April 2018, 08:34 AM

Looking for something in rose gold. Which would you get?

Patek 5119R

Or

Vacheron Patrimony Traditionelle Small Seconds.

Both are manual wind, three handers.

dmash · 9 April 2018, 08:35 AM

VC, not even close

I'm desperately wanting a Calatrava revamp from PP with a larger movement (and perhaps a slight 1mm upsize across the line). Also a see through caseback on the 5196. If that happens, my answer would be different.

RHIII · 9 April 2018, 08:37 AM

Either one is a great choice — but I think in this case I’d go with the VC.

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mps354 · 9 April 2018, 08:49 AM

Tough call, but I’d go Patek. The hobnail bezel is classic

jd57 · 9 April 2018, 10:08 AM

Lange Saxonia for the win!

RHIII · 9 April 2018, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jd57

Lange Saxonia for the win!

x2 if that is an option!!!!

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codecow · 9 April 2018, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

Looking for something in rose gold. Which would you get?

Patek 5119R

Or

Vacheron Patrimony Traditionelle Small Seconds.

Both are manual wind, three handers.

Get the 5116R. The enamel dial is worth it.

AK797 · 9 April 2018, 11:44 AM

VC Pat is very nice, as is the Saxonia, think the PP looks a bit dated for me now.

ap1 · 9 April 2018, 12:25 PM

VC wins this battle. No longer with me

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Silver Bullet · 9 April 2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ap1

VC wins this battle. No longer with me

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It’s a stunner isn’t it?

A friend of mine summed this question up nicely: the VC is better in every way. It’s just not a Patek.

texasmade · 9 April 2018, 01:12 PM

VC simple dress watch is much nicer than the PP Calatrava.

kneedeep · 9 April 2018, 01:41 PM

Vc

tyler1980 · 9 April 2018, 03:05 PM

VC for me

Russell996 · 9 April 2018, 03:19 PM

Not sure of your budget but the new golden ellipse is gorgeous.

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...ipse/5738R-001

tyler1980 · 9 April 2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

Not sure of your budget but the new golden ellipse is gorgeous.

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...ipse/5738R-001

you know that one is very overlooked and i actually really like it. I never thought i would say that either but that line has grown on me over time but its never the first one that comes to mind.

Watch Admirer · 9 April 2018, 04:55 PM

vc

pam66 · 9 April 2018, 05:13 PM

Pp 5227r:::)))

Ichiran · 9 April 2018, 05:34 PM

Between these 2, I will choose the 5119R. I like the classic hobnail bezel and the lacquered dial:

5119.png

Below is a dress watch from VC that I really like, the Historiques Chronomètre Royal 1907 with enamel dial, for your consideration too:

1907.png

soundserious · 10 April 2018, 02:30 AM

VC reboots their entire lineup every 3 years it seems, buy accordingly.

enjoythemusic · 10 April 2018, 02:34 AM

Congrats and agree on the VC. Looks great!

Silver Bullet · 10 April 2018, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

Pp 5227r:::)))

Nice watch, but it wears too big for me. Also nearly twice the price, so, as much as I admire this reference and it’s great case and lugs, I don’t think it’s gonna happen, for me.

HoosAir · 10 April 2018, 03:28 AM

The patek is more classic. VC is more modern/versatile and can be worn with more casual attire. I love the vc personally and it has been on my short list for a while.

VC movement more appropriate for its case size, if that matters to you.

jon_jon · 10 April 2018, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

Looking for something in rose gold. Which would you get?

Patek 5119R

Or

Vacheron Patrimony Traditionelle Small Seconds.

Both are manual wind, three handers.

The Patek 5119R, with the hobnail bezel, is a classic Patek dress watch. I saw one on the wrist of a Patek Salon employee and it looked quite elegant. If you are considering the 5119R, I would recommend that you look at the 5116R for a couple thousand $/€/£ more. They are made in smaller numbers because of the enamel dial. It has been discontinued so a little harder to find, but they are still available pre-owned.

Silver Bullet · 19 April 2018, 03:05 AM

Does anybody else think the Lange is just too dull?

Hairdude1 · 19 April 2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ap1

VC wins this battle. No longer with me

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Damn that is nice!

Justindo · 19 April 2018, 11:59 AM

I have both, except I have the J version of the Patek and I prefer the Vacheron overall, especially for the price. The Patek movement is just too small for the case. Still, there's nothing quite like the hobnail bezel and lacquerd dial with Roman numerals and leaf hands. For practical reasons, I do wish the Patek had mini dot minute markers. Some might argue the 5119 is a bit dated and I can't totally disagree but then again the Nautilus and Aquanaut look terribly dated to me and not classic like the 5119.

If you do decide to go for the Patek, you might as well go for the now discontinued 5116R.

goog53 · 19 April 2018, 12:46 PM

5116R Enamel would be the winner. As for VC I cant help but find it laughable that they need a company like Hodinkee to assist in selling their watches since there is little to no demand for their pieces. Sorry to be so harsh.

Justindo · 20 April 2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by goog53

5116R Enamel would be the winner. As for VC I cant help but find it laughable that they need a company like Hodinkee to assist in selling their watches since there is little to no demand for their pieces. Sorry to be so harsh.

Just because they're not popular doesn't mean they're not great watches. Just look at Lange: they languish in display cases but they make superior watches to Patek for far less money.

rfatm3f · 20 April 2018, 12:16 PM

Vc or pp 5296

yessir69 · 20 April 2018, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmash

VC, not even close

I'm desperately wanting a Calatrava revamp from PP with a larger movement (and perhaps a slight 1mm upsize across the line). Also a see through caseback on the 5196. If that happens, my answer would be different.

This.

9 April 2018, 08:34 AM	#1
Silver Bullet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Earth Watch: 5711 Posts: 262	Which dress watch? Looking for something in rose gold. Which would you get? Patek 5119R Or Vacheron Patrimony Traditionelle Small Seconds. Both are manual wind, three handers.

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9 April 2018, 03:05 PM	#13
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10 April 2018, 02:30 AM	#19
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	VC reboots their entire lineup every 3 years it seems, buy accordingly. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

10 April 2018, 02:34 AM	#20
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,406	Congrats and agree on the VC. Looks great! __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

9 April 2018, 08:35 AM	#2
dmash "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 5,912	VC, not even close I'm desperately wanting a Calatrava revamp from PP with a larger movement (and perhaps a slight 1mm upsize across the line). Also a see through caseback on the 5196. If that happens, my answer would be different.

9 April 2018, 08:37 AM	#3
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Either one is a great choice — but I think in this case I’d go with the VC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 April 2018, 08:49 AM	#4
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,971	Tough call, but I’d go Patek. The hobnail bezel is classic

9 April 2018, 10:08 AM	#5
jd57 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 564	Lange Saxonia for the win!

9 April 2018, 11:44 AM	#8
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	VC Pat is very nice, as is the Saxonia, think the PP looks a bit dated for me now.

9 April 2018, 12:25 PM	#9
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,035	VC wins this battle. No longer with me Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

9 April 2018, 01:12 PM	#11
texasmade "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Lone Star State Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS Posts: 2,333	VC simple dress watch is much nicer than the PP Calatrava.

9 April 2018, 03:19 PM	#14
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,173	Not sure of your budget but the new golden ellipse is gorgeous. https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...ipse/5738R-001

9 April 2018, 04:55 PM	#16
Watch Admirer Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: somewhere Posts: 350	vc

9 April 2018, 05:13 PM	#17
pam66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256	Pp 5227r:::)))

9 April 2018, 05:34 PM	#18
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,598	Between these 2, I will choose the 5119R. I like the classic hobnail bezel and the lacquered dial: 5119.png Below is a dress watch from VC that I really like, the Historiques Chronomètre Royal 1907 with enamel dial, for your consideration too: 1907.png

10 April 2018, 03:28 AM	#22
HoosAir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY Watch: 5711, 5167, 5146P Posts: 80	The patek is more classic. VC is more modern/versatile and can be worn with more casual attire. I love the vc personally and it has been on my short list for a while. VC movement more appropriate for its case size, if that matters to you.

19 April 2018, 03:05 AM	#24
Silver Bullet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Earth Watch: 5711 Posts: 262	Does anybody else think the Lange is just too dull?

19 April 2018, 11:59 AM	#26
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	I have both, except I have the J version of the Patek and I prefer the Vacheron overall, especially for the price. The Patek movement is just too small for the case. Still, there's nothing quite like the hobnail bezel and lacquerd dial with Roman numerals and leaf hands. For practical reasons, I do wish the Patek had mini dot minute markers. Some might argue the 5119 is a bit dated and I can't totally disagree but then again the Nautilus and Aquanaut look terribly dated to me and not classic like the 5119. If you do decide to go for the Patek, you might as well go for the now discontinued 5116R.

19 April 2018, 12:46 PM	#27
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,057	5116R Enamel would be the winner. As for VC I cant help but find it laughable that they need a company like Hodinkee to assist in selling their watches since there is little to no demand for their pieces. Sorry to be so harsh. __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

20 April 2018, 12:16 PM	#29
rfatm3f "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NY Posts: 370	Vc or pp 5296

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