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Old 10 July 2018, 06:12 PM   #1
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Tudor gmt date window issue?

Two mornings in a row now the gmt has seemed to advance an extra half date on the date window leaving it caught between two numbers when I wake up at around 7am.

E.G. this morning as per the pic it should have been 10 but is in fact halfway between 10 and 11.

If I advance it manually thru two or three date changes it’s fine so this must be an overnight thing.

Any ideas anyone please?

I’ll try to do a time lapse on it tonight to see when it happens.






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Old 10 July 2018, 06:21 PM   #2
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Yep. I have the same issue. Mine also jumps 2 days at a time also. It seems to rectify itself occasionally and then go back to its bad ways. There was another on WUS yesterday so assume it’s starting to become an issue.

My watch will be on it’s way into RSC when back from hols. No biggie, but sure they can sort it.
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Old 10 July 2018, 06:34 PM   #3
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Damn thats disappointing.

This is why I am scared of buying any watches with new movements. Rolex/Tudor seem to have issues with date flips which is a very simple complication

The DD40 and now this Tudor GMT both have date change issues and both happened with new movements in their first models. Wonder whats up with their quality control and testing of these new movements. Its quite a simple thing not to get wrong.
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Old 10 July 2018, 06:45 PM   #4
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Yep. I have the same issue. Mine also jumps 2 days at a time also. It seems to rectify itself occasionally and then go back to its bad ways. There was another on WUS yesterday so assume it’s starting to become an issue.

My watch will be on it’s way into RSC when back from hols. No biggie, but sure they can sort it.
thanks for the info steve. yes mine was running fine for 1 month before this started happening. at least with date overshoots on a gmt, you can reverse the date instead of having to go fwd thru 30 days. i guess i'll check mine into RSC too. shame as its been on the wrist non-stop since i bought it!
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Old 10 July 2018, 07:03 PM   #5
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It’s frustrating, but not the end of the world. I wonder if more will come out the woodwork.

It’s just a PITA to have to change my date every day!


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Old 10 July 2018, 08:37 PM   #6
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Possible a tiny bit of oil on back of date wheel just cycle the date around a few time should cure it.
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Old 10 July 2018, 11:50 PM   #7
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Second Peter's suggestion...please try that and let us know. I was thinking of picking that watch up later on in the year...
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Old 11 July 2018, 02:56 AM   #8
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I wouldn’t have any tools to open up. In any case, I would rather RSC dealt with for a new watch under warranty.

Is a shame. There are now 2 others on WUS with the same issue. To be fair, it is what it is and I’ll get mine in after I get back from holiday. Is not stopping me from enjoying the watch.

Hopefully not many more, and then I can sell mine as a true Mk1 with knackered date mechanism!
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Old 11 July 2018, 03:05 AM   #9
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Well, a bit off topic but I sent my Tudor GMT in for being way too fast. Was ~+7 seconds / day or so. Unacceptable to me.
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:16 AM   #10
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surely +7 is still within COSC certification. Right?
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:17 AM   #11
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Date window on my 5612 movement (BB SS) works just fine.
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:17 AM   #12
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surely +7 is still within COSC certification. Right?
Nope. It needs a tweak.

Mine despite not being able to show the correct date is less than a second a day out.
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:21 AM   #13
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That is a common problem when you use the India timezone as the second timezone.
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:47 AM   #14
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Send the watch to Tudor and get it fixed. Simple.
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:52 AM   #15
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Old 11 July 2018, 06:55 AM   #16
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no issues here on date wheel and about 1 second fast per day since 2.6.18 - hardly taken mine off - very happy punter here
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Old 11 July 2018, 07:52 PM   #17
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thanks for all the feedback everyone
glad some are unaffected

the AD has arranged an appt at the RSC, so i'll be dropping it there this week.

will post back with the outcome!
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Old 11 July 2018, 08:21 PM   #18
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No problems with mine,,,,
Date perfect and keeps great time,,,,
seems the matt finish does not highlight scratches the way pcls do on my dj2,,,,,
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Old 11 July 2018, 08:22 PM   #19
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thanks for all the feedback everyone
glad some are unaffected

the AD has arranged an appt at the RSC, so i'll be dropping it there this week.

will post back with the outcome!
Did you try cycling the date around a few times,they had the same intermittent problem on the modern Rolex GMT
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Old 11 July 2018, 08:24 PM   #20
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Did you try cycling the date around a few times,they had the same intermittent problem on the modern Rolex GMT


I have on mine for last few days and seems to have made it worse. Let’s see what RSC say. Hopefully a simple fix.


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Old 11 July 2018, 08:25 PM   #21
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Well, a bit off topic but I sent my Tudor GMT in for being way too fast. Was ~+7 seconds / day or so. Unacceptable to me.
Unacceptable would hardly call +7 seconds way to fast.
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Old 11 July 2018, 08:27 PM   #22
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I guess if you were on the International date line, the watch would be correct.
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Did you try cycling the date around a few times,they had the same intermittent problem on the modern Rolex GMT
yes, i advanced thru several days manually and the switch over happened perfectly. so i dont quite get why it only happened when running in real time.

i have the 116710LN also, but fingers crossed thats been Ok so far!
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Old 11 July 2018, 09:03 PM   #24
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I have the Tudor GMT and have experienced no issues and my time is plus 5 seconds a week. Great watch and things happen, send it in if you are not satisfied and Tudor will make it right.
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no issues with my own Tudor GMT, and like others its not been of my wrist since picking it up a few weeks back
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Old 11 July 2018, 09:23 PM   #26
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yes, i advanced thru several days manually and the switch over happened perfectly. so i dont quite get why it only happened when running in real time.

i have the 116710LN also, but fingers crossed thats been Ok so far!
No problems with the 116710 range it was the early cal 3186 16710 that had date change problems.Rolex and Tudor uses a cam system sometimes they can get a bit dry or even to much oil so it could make it stick. Making it harder for the jewel to slide off the cam it does not indicate a huge problem with the watch and normally cured by recycling the date a few times.
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Old 11 July 2018, 11:42 PM   #27
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I have been having this same issue on mine. I have cycled through a couple months and still the same. It only does it when it is running and I can't reproduce it at all manually. What I have noticed is it switches to the next day promptly at midnight and then rolls to the next day where it stops at about 8 a.m. leaving me a day advanced.

Simple enough on a GMT to adjust but I will be sending it in once I return from Holiday.
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What is the best way to test this before buying? I will be getting a Tudor GMT this week and I don't want to get stuck with a new watch that has a problem the day I buy it.
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Old 11 July 2018, 11:56 PM   #29
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What is the best way to test this before buying? I will be getting a Tudor GMT this week and I don't want to get stuck with a new watch that has a problem the day I buy it.


It’s difficult to tell. It manifests itself after a while running. I wouldn’t let it stop you buying the watch. Many have and have no issues so just a small proportion of the owners.

If there is a problem, I suspect it’s an easy fix and hopefully not a 6 week wait at RSC.


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Pretty crazy to see that, I’m shocked that it doesn’t appear to be isolate to just your watch. Hopefully the RSC can get you a quick turnaround!
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