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18 August 2019, 03:42 AM | #1 |
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Swirls on dial / sapphire crystal in bright sun light
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This is my new to me 114060 and in bright sunlight I can see swirl marks like you'd see on a car that's been thru the car wash. I'm fairly sure it's the dial that has these swirl marks but does anyone else have this issue? I was finally able to photograph it today. Justin Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
18 August 2019, 03:45 AM | #2 |
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Thats very odd. Have you tried properly cleaning it? Its probably through the sapphire somehow. Luckily its fairly inexpensive to replace the sapphire and would just for that.
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As a general rule of thumb if you can’t clean it off the top of the sapphire then it’s probably on the bottom of the sapphire (or possibly dial I suppose too).
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18 August 2019, 01:30 PM | #5 |
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Its the glossy dial. All black glossy dial Rolex has this. I made peace with it years ago haha.
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Are you talking about the reflection from the outside ring on the hour markers?
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Odd. Are the marks you’re talking about those between the 9 and 10 hour markers? The directions seem to change between the second and third photo. What are you cleaning and drying with?
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I'm wondering if it is either on the sapphire on the inside or a bad polish job on the gloss dial itself. Rolex does have its issues with small details like this. My first had dust under the dial and another guy just had a hair on his date wheel on another thread. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
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Its new to you but whats the history of the watch ?
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19 August 2019, 01:24 AM | #15 |
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Looks like these swirls are underneath the crystal imo. I’m having the same issue on my Omega PO after a hands replacement job. It’s been to the Swatch service center three times now. I told them to replace the dang crystal vs attempting to clean it this time.
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My 16610 had it. As did my 16600. My thoughts are that they are fine polishing marks from when the dials are made.
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I recently got my sub and it has them too. Seems like light bouncing between dial and crystal and creating multiple reflections of the hour markers. I might be wrong too
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It looks like there are light swirl marks on the physical dial, I was able to finally see this in the pics. I don’t OP is talking about the triple reflections are the markers? When I had my Sub it did the same thing. To me it was bad dial flaw in the original design and something IMHO shouldn’t be producible on such an expensive watch.
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Have seen this on many professional gloss dials and believe there are a couple of old threads on the topic as well. Result of the dial manufacturing process was the explanation I was given when speaking to RSC. |
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Not to thread derail but I just noticed what look like very fine scratches on the crystal of my SD43. They radiate from horizontal from 8-4 on bottom portion of the crystal. Could it be from zipper and has any else had their crystal scratched similarly?
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Under certain light I can see it, but unfortunately with overcast today I dont. I wouldnt stress it.
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Gloss professional dials are polished as part of the manufacturing process and these swirl marks are the result of that. Only visible under strong, direct sunlight or LED/flash, in certain angles as people have witnessed in this thread. Of course with minor variation, as is the case with Rolex dial production in general (print etc). |
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