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23 June 2022, 07:22 AM | #31 |
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The GMT-second time zone is an interesting topic.
So, when I owned my GMT II (and my EX II) I could set the second time zone to anything I want. Let’s say since I am in aviation I really wanted the Greenwich Mean Time as my second time zone. I set the 24-hour hand eight (8) hours ahead of my local time. Whenever I need to know GMT, I simply look down at the hand and the bezel and Vuluah! (Or however you spell it), there it is at a glance. If I have a GMT I, or this new Seiko, I look down, move the bezel eight positions and read the GMT off of the bezel. Is this a big deal? Of course not, just an added step. IMHO, it is not as functional as a GMT II, or travelers, or however you want to refer to an independently settable 24 hour hand. Here are the reasons: 1. It’s convenience. I can just glance at the dial for the info I need without having to move any bezel or anything else (call me lazy). 2. I always have to remember it is eight (8) positions away. OK, so that is not a big deal, but with a GMT II, I set the time once, and don’t ever have to think about how many hours ahead or behind I am… AND… what about when your local time changes, like travel or Daylight savings or whatever, how many hours am I off now? Is if forward or back? Is it a HUGE difference? No, maybe not, but IMHO, the independently settable is much more convenient and useful. |
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There are multiple ways to utilize the GMT function, depending on the need. Given your scenario I can see why the Seiko would not be the best choice. dP
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23 June 2022, 07:15 PM | #33 |
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Very interested however from what I’ve seen I think the band and edge of the bezel looks a bit too “chromey”. I look forward to seeing it in the flesh.
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23 June 2022, 08:32 PM | #34 | |
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This is NOT what we are referring to as a desk GMT. A desk GMT, like this new Seiko, allows you to independently change the 24-hour hand. So you can set the 24-hour hand to the 2nd time zone, or set it to UTC. Then the hour hand becomes your home time, the 24 hour hand the 2nd time zone, and the rotating bezel will give you the 3rd time zone, all at a glance. No need to change on the fly....although you can if you want to because of the independently settable 24 hour hand and rotating bezel. I find a desk GMT to be not that much more complicated, and pretty much equal to, a traveller's GMT. Am I missing something? |
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I would just leave the bezel in position for gmt. Not ideal that it could be moved (more like I move it because I can’t resist fidgeting with bezels) but it will work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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This seiko’s 24 hour hand is slaved to the 12 hour hand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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This is what I understand as well, the 24 hour hand can NOT be independently set, just like the GMT 1. |
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I maybe misunderstanding everyone but according to a Hiconsumption review of the SKX GMT it says the GMT hand can be independently set. I’d post a link but I have to few posts.
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The GMT hand can be set independently of the hour hand. Just not the other way around, like the way the Rolex GMT Master II works.
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24 June 2022, 04:03 PM | #40 |
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That's what I read as well. The new GMT movement has an independently adjustable 24-hr hand.
I don't know who currently makes a GMT watch with a 4th hand that isn't either an independently adjustable 24 hour hand or an independently adjustable hour hand. |
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Even I am assuming it will be an independent jumping hour as per recent times, it will be a deal breaker for many if they skip this. I guess we all have to wait for a hands on video review to be sure.
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Do you mean jumping the local hour hand vs the 24 hour hand? That's a deal breaker? At a $500 price point, you are asking a lot of a movement to have a jumping local hour hand, especially for a movement that Seiko is trying to manufacture at volume for not only its watches but also for use in other companies' watches. There are actually few watch makers that utilize a jumping local hour hand movement. Rolex, Omega, GS, Ball, Mido. Some are not really GMTs that have a rotating bezel (like time zone watches...ALS, Patek, AP) etc. All are significantly more expensive. If Seiko can pull this off, this will be a game changer for independents trying to make an affordable GMT. |
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25 June 2022, 06:53 AM | #44 |
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Looks great thanks for sharing
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25 June 2022, 06:37 PM | #45 |
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I don’t think a movement that operates the same as every Rolex gmt from the 6542 to the 16700 is a deal breaker on a 500$ piece. Looks like an awesome watch to me.
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27 June 2022, 02:55 AM | #47 | |
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For example, my local time is 10:00AM. The second time zone I am interested in the time is 2:00PM, or 1400. So, with this watch, I can have my local hour hand set at 10:00AM and the 24-hour hand set at 14 (on the bezel). This is correct(?). According to that article anyway. As opposed to the GMT 1, where the 24hour hand was slaved to the hour hand. If it was 10:00AM on your local hour hand, the 24 hour hand was pointing at 10 on the bezel (assuming the bezel is straight up). If your local hand says it is 2:00PM, the 24 hour hand is pointing at the 14 on the bezel, but this was not changeable. So, does a dorklehead like me now have it right? |
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I'll wait for the pepsi version of this watch, I have no doubt Seiko will eventually release the pepsi version
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10 July 2022, 08:02 AM | #49 |
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Received my SKX GMT and you are able to set the GMT hand independently.
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GMT hand sets independently. No jumping hour. Agree with Kegan, for this price, awesome watch.
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15 July 2022, 09:42 PM | #51 |
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I picked up the "Blueberry" version earlier this week at a local Seiko AD with a discount. It's a wonderful watch for the money!
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16 July 2022, 10:03 PM | #52 |
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I looked at the three options last week and did not get one. Broke down this week and bought the Orange dial for myself and the Blue version for a friend who is a great Seiko fan. Great watch and a lot of fun.
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If you have a chance to post a couple of pics of the orange, that would be great. It’s the one I’m eyeballing. |
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Thus far, the accuracy on my "Blueberry" is excellent. It ran about +6 over a 24 hour period when I first got it. Over the last 24 hours it is running +/-0, can't complain about that!
This is the first watch I have been excited about in a LONG time. My only gripes are the lack of a screw down crown and the Hardlex Crystal, but for the price that's nitpicking. Really surprised to see the end links are actually solid on this piece. The bracelet is GREAT. |
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My AD received their first GMT today and he called me right away. Being shipped Monday, can’t wait to start wearing it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Just picked up the orange (yesterday). Neat watch. The 24 hand can be moved independent of the 12 hr hand, but it is unidirectional. One direction spins the 24hr hand and the other direction changes the date.
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22 July 2022, 10:11 AM | #58 |
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I hardly need another watch, but big fan these especially the orange which I ordered. Pics to follow.
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A photo from Insta.
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My Blueberry is running at +10 over the course of 7 days. Surprised how accurate this thing is. Very pleased.
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