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Zed Homme · 27 July 2010, 03:06 PM

Hi all!

As some of you know, I love my watches. However, I have broken my wrist several times, and it literally pains me to write. I also have the penmanship of a chimpanzee. Therefore I have never had a great interest in fine writing instruments. However, times have changed, and my new job entails that I sign contracts in front of clients. I have always relied on my trusty $0.20 bic round stic, but dont feel that at this level that this is acceptable. Please enlighten me on pens and the one that suits me.

I am left handed, and my hand drags right through the ink I have just put down. An absolute must is that the pen doesnt smear. Amazingly enough, the bics are the only ones I know that dont do this. A fountain pen is absolutely out of the question on this premise alone. Please show me some options as I am clueless and too embarrassed to walk into the local MB store to ask. FWIW I have bought several MB pens, but only to give them as gifts.

Please help a fellow WIS out. Thanks!

2careless · 27 July 2010, 04:13 PM

Hi Chris, I suppose you can get a ballpen or a rollerball or a fineliner for the purpose of signing documents. Have you got any preferences to which brand of pen you like?
For MB they mainly have 3 lines - Meisterstuck (the classic style), Starwalker (more modern style), Boheme (I would say smaller and more femine).
I do have found their ballpens not smearing while the rollerball has smeared on me before.

Lol-x · 27 July 2010, 04:25 PM

The MontBlanc ballpoints all use the same type of refills. So if you try them out at the pen shop and they work for you, then Chris you should be 'good to go' as they say in the US of A.

I think as a suggestion a cool pen is the Starwalker which has a diamond suspended in clear resin at the top of the pen. It looks cool

MoonDogJerry · 27 July 2010, 10:52 PM

I would also suggest a MontBlanc ballpoint. Many years ago a peer told me to get a nice pen and every time your use it to sign your name, think about what your are signing. I have been using a MontBlanc ballpoint since 1990 that my father bought me.

Bisquitlips · 27 July 2010, 11:09 PM

A Montblanc ball point would work nicely.

Zed Homme · 28 July 2010, 12:29 AM

Thanks for the advice. I'll go by the MB store today to try them out and will let you know my results....

Lion · 28 July 2010, 12:59 AM

Chris, I can not add much to what's been already said but I do own the rubber and platinum Starwalker in a ball point and it is an amazing pen!!!

nickriebe · 28 July 2010, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

The MontBlanc ballpoints all use the same type of refills. So if you try them out at the pen shop and they work for you, then Chris you should be 'good to go' as they say in the US of A.

I think as a suggestion a cool pen is the Starwalker which has a diamond suspended in clear resin at the top of the pen. It looks cool

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Zed Homme · 28 July 2010, 02:50 AM

I just bought a pen during my lunch break. I am recharging the battery in my camera, and will shoot a striptease as soon as it is ready....

Thanks for the tips!

nickriebe · 28 July 2010, 05:01 AM

I cant wait to see it! :)

tkc324 · 28 July 2010, 06:20 AM

Can't wait to see the pic.

2careless · 28 July 2010, 06:37 AM

Geez you're fast, no mucking around! I would have procastinated for a while before trigger.

nickriebe · 28 July 2010, 06:39 AM

come on! Lets see it!

Zed Homme · 28 July 2010, 10:01 AM

The Mont Blanc store here isnt too far from a couple ADs so the opportunity was too good to pass up. The big joke is I dont even know the model name...

Was my first proper striptease, I hoped you enjoyed it.

nickriebe · 28 July 2010, 10:08 AM

Gorgeous! I know its a "Starwalker" but I dont know what series... Im sure someone else will fill in the blanks for me. Congrats on a great writing instrument and may it bring you years of enjoyment! :) Any good deals at the Rolex AD's?

2careless · 28 July 2010, 05:38 PM

This is a beautiful Starwalker Black Mystery ballpen! Congrats!

If you get bored with the MB ballpen refill you can get the "no cap gel" refills (rollerball) from Monteverde. More colours to choose from

swatty · 28 July 2010, 06:54 PM

Congrats Chris, it looks great

MoonDogJerry · 29 July 2010, 12:14 AM

Nice Pen!

Latrodectus · 29 July 2010, 10:55 AM

Very beautiful...you did not wast any time...congrats to that nice pen!

erwin · 29 July 2010, 02:10 PM

Congratulations for acquiring one of the best Montblanc pens!

Zed Homme · 29 July 2010, 02:22 PM

Thanks guys, it was either this one or the other starwalker that had the metal grid with rubberized inserts. This one just spoke to me as it looks unique. My SO saw it and said it was "god awful." At that point I knew I found the right one.

I was in a conference room last week and I had to sign some papers. All the others in the room pulled out nice pens and I had my trusty white bic round stic. It was the first time in my life that I felt self concious about my pen, hence my quick decision to get a MB.

nickriebe · 30 July 2010, 12:04 AM

Your quick decision was a great decision!

Lion · 30 July 2010, 01:34 AM

Chris, what a great pen.....enjoy and have fun!!!

Zed Homme · 30 July 2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

If you get bored with the MB ballpen refill you can get the "no cap gel" refills (rollerball) from Monteverde. More colours to choose from

Can you tell me more? I assume its a different brand that makes cartridges for my pen. How does the ink compare?

2careless · 30 July 2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed Homme

Can you tell me more? I assume its a different brand that makes cartridges for my pen. How does the ink compare?

http://www.camerareadyart.com/ECatal...Line/index.asp

They have Montblanc ballpen type refills using capless gel ink. page 10.

Or, they have Montblanc ballpen refills using ballpen ink with more colours - same catalog, page 6.

Zed Homme · 30 July 2010, 02:11 PM

Thanks.

Since the thread is appropriately titled I may as well ask, what is the difference between ballpen ink and capless gel ink?

2careless · 30 July 2010, 05:11 PM

ballpoint ink is usually stickier than gel pen ink.
I think gel pens "glide" much better than ballpens. Ballpens you have to press quite hard for the ink to come out while gel pens are much lighter.
The downside of most rollerballs or gel pens is that the ink will dry out quite quickly as they are mostly water based, so people have to put "caps" onto the tip to avoid evaporation. Hence cap gels.
These capless gels are purported to be not that evaporative and so have better longevity.

Zed Homme · 30 July 2010, 10:45 PM

Would it be logical to conclude that capless gels are less prone to smearing?

Sose · 30 July 2010, 10:53 PM

Not necessarily. Ballpoint style ink is meant to dry on contact. Gels might take a lil longer to dry, based on my unscientific observations.

Sir, that's a fine writing piece! Enjoy in good health!

2careless · 30 July 2010, 11:03 PM

Eh, when I said "gel pens dry out quickly" I mean the ink inside the pen dries out quickly if you don't cap it, rendering the refill useless, not "the ink dries quickly once written on paper"...

The fastest non smear ink is ballpen ink, while most cap gel pens are nearly as fast dry as ballpens.

27 July 2010, 03:06 PM	#1
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Please educate one with no common sense... Hi all! As some of you know, I love my watches. However, I have broken my wrist several times, and it literally pains me to write. I also have the penmanship of a chimpanzee. Therefore I have never had a great interest in fine writing instruments. However, times have changed, and my new job entails that I sign contracts in front of clients. I have always relied on my trusty $0.20 bic round stic, but dont feel that at this level that this is acceptable. Please enlighten me on pens and the one that suits me. I am left handed, and my hand drags right through the ink I have just put down. An absolute must is that the pen doesnt smear. Amazingly enough, the bics are the only ones I know that dont do this. A fountain pen is absolutely out of the question on this premise alone. Please show me some options as I am clueless and too embarrassed to walk into the local MB store to ask. FWIW I have bought several MB pens, but only to give them as gifts. Please help a fellow WIS out. Thanks!

27 July 2010, 04:25 PM	#3
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,256	The MontBlanc ballpoints all use the same type of refills. So if you try them out at the pen shop and they work for you, then Chris you should be 'good to go' as they say in the US of A. I think as a suggestion a cool pen is the Starwalker which has a diamond suspended in clear resin at the top of the pen. It looks cool __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

27 July 2010, 10:52 PM	#4
MoonDogJerry "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Jerry Location: Kansas City Watch: Tower, All Along Posts: 142	I would also suggest a MontBlanc ballpoint. Many years ago a peer told me to get a nice pen and every time your use it to sign your name, think about what your are signing. I have been using a MontBlanc ballpoint since 1990 that my father bought me. __________________ "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

27 July 2010, 11:09 PM	#5
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,501	A Montblanc ball point would work nicely. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

28 July 2010, 12:59 AM	#7
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Chris, I can not add much to what's been already said but I do own the rubber and platinum Starwalker in a ball point and it is an amazing pen!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

27 July 2010, 04:13 PM	#2
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Hi Chris, I suppose you can get a ballpen or a rollerball or a fineliner for the purpose of signing documents. Have you got any preferences to which brand of pen you like? For MB they mainly have 3 lines - Meisterstuck (the classic style), Starwalker (more modern style), Boheme (I would say smaller and more femine). I do have found their ballpens not smearing while the rollerball has smeared on me before.

28 July 2010, 12:29 AM	#6
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Thanks for the advice. I'll go by the MB store today to try them out and will let you know my results....

28 July 2010, 02:50 AM	#9
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	I just bought a pen during my lunch break. I am recharging the battery in my camera, and will shoot a striptease as soon as it is ready.... Thanks for the tips!

28 July 2010, 05:01 AM	#10
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	I cant wait to see it! :) __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

28 July 2010, 06:20 AM	#11
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	Can't wait to see the pic.

28 July 2010, 06:37 AM	#12
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Geez you're fast, no mucking around! I would have procastinated for a while before trigger.

28 July 2010, 06:39 AM	#13
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	come on! Lets see it! __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

28 July 2010, 10:01 AM	#14
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	The Mont Blanc store here isnt too far from a couple ADs so the opportunity was too good to pass up. The big joke is I dont even know the model name... Was my first proper striptease, I hoped you enjoyed it.

28 July 2010, 10:08 AM	#15
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	Gorgeous! I know its a "Starwalker" but I dont know what series... Im sure someone else will fill in the blanks for me. Congrats on a great writing instrument and may it bring you years of enjoyment! :) Any good deals at the Rolex AD's? __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

28 July 2010, 05:38 PM	#16
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	This is a beautiful Starwalker Black Mystery ballpen! Congrats! If you get bored with the MB ballpen refill you can get the "no cap gel" refills (rollerball) from Monteverde. More colours to choose from

28 July 2010, 06:54 PM	#17
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	Congrats Chris, it looks great

29 July 2010, 12:14 AM	#18
MoonDogJerry "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Jerry Location: Kansas City Watch: Tower, All Along Posts: 142	Nice Pen! __________________ "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

29 July 2010, 10:55 AM	#19
Latrodectus 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Fred Location: KY, USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 9,996	Very beautiful...you did not wast any time...congrats to that nice pen! __________________ Member # 16057 4-Hands Club Tosser Club Member TRF Skypers Group

29 July 2010, 02:10 PM	#20
erwin - Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Erwin Location: Hollywood, Ca Watch: SD Posts: 1,032	Congratulations for acquiring one of the best Montblanc pens! __________________ Your watch silently speaks about your character! sd/datejust/tudor/a couple of vintage omegas/tissotMB Meisterstuck Bordeaux pen/MB Noblesse Oblige/Starwalker/MB Classique Fountain pen/MB no 149

29 July 2010, 02:22 PM	#21
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Thanks guys, it was either this one or the other starwalker that had the metal grid with rubberized inserts. This one just spoke to me as it looks unique. My SO saw it and said it was "god awful." At that point I knew I found the right one. I was in a conference room last week and I had to sign some papers. All the others in the room pulled out nice pens and I had my trusty white bic round stic. It was the first time in my life that I felt self concious about my pen, hence my quick decision to get a MB.

30 July 2010, 12:04 AM	#22
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	Your quick decision was a great decision! __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

30 July 2010, 01:34 AM	#23
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Chris, what a great pen.....enjoy and have fun!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

30 July 2010, 02:11 PM	#26
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Thanks. Since the thread is appropriately titled I may as well ask, what is the difference between ballpen ink and capless gel ink?

30 July 2010, 05:11 PM	#27
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	ballpoint ink is usually stickier than gel pen ink. I think gel pens "glide" much better than ballpens. Ballpens you have to press quite hard for the ink to come out while gel pens are much lighter. The downside of most rollerballs or gel pens is that the ink will dry out quite quickly as they are mostly water based, so people have to put "caps" onto the tip to avoid evaporation. Hence cap gels. These capless gels are purported to be not that evaporative and so have better longevity.

30 July 2010, 10:45 PM	#28
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	Would it be logical to conclude that capless gels are less prone to smearing?

30 July 2010, 10:53 PM	#29
Sose "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NOVA Watch: GMT IIc Posts: 1,174	Not necessarily. Ballpoint style ink is meant to dry on contact. Gels might take a lil longer to dry, based on my unscientific observations. Sir, that's a fine writing piece! Enjoy in good health!

30 July 2010, 11:03 PM	#30
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Eh, when I said "gel pens dry out quickly" I mean the ink inside the pen dries out quickly if you don't cap it, rendering the refill useless, not "the ink dries quickly once written on paper"... The fastest non smear ink is ballpen ink, while most cap gel pens are nearly as fast dry as ballpens.

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