5131 - what's the best way of getitng one?

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by kingofthehill

Taking your point at face value, I would suggest that I would personally see any timepiece that is only able to present a "rough idea" of the time, date, some other function or, perhaps worse still, whatever its 'complication raison d'être' might be as futile. Fortunately, in my personal view most watches are able to serve their function far more effectively than many world time timepieces do.

Consider, for example, even flawed complications, such as annual calendars...aside from a single point in the year, the timepiece perfectly fulfils its function, whilst that point of error is easily remedied without challenge. As an aside, one might add that the function also has certain virtues over its 'more perfect' perpetual calendar alternative, offering a generally cleaner dial, less delicate mechanism and materially lower price point.

Can’t argue with your logic.

My purchases are always emotional, the piece needs to speak to me first and foremost.

[erics]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Can’t argue with your logic.

My purchases are always emotional, the piece needs to speak to me first and foremost.

100% agree. Way to go.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by kingofthehill

Taking your point at face value, I would suggest that I would personally see any timepiece that is only able to present a "rough idea" of the time, date, some other function or, perhaps worse still, whatever its 'complication raison d'être' might be as futile. Fortunately, in my personal view most watches are able to serve their function far more effectively than many world time timepieces do.

Consider, for example, even flawed complications, such as annual calendars...aside from a single point in the year, the timepiece perfectly fulfils its function, whilst that point of error is easily remedied without challenge. As an aside, one might add that the function also has certain virtues over its 'more perfect' perpetual calendar alternative, offering a generally cleaner dial, less delicate mechanism and materially lower price point.

i agree with the logic. However i would want a 5131 just for the sheer beauty.

WT are not all that legible and the 5131 in particular seems hard to read. I dont know for sure because i don't have one. I think a "jump" hour on the WT ring would be so much better rather than the drifting hours as it is hard to tell at a glance what time it is in a particular city since its almost always between numbers. Pretty sure Lange would do that if this was their WT as they seem particular adept and instantaneous jumps on their watches. I had a non Patek WT once and that was my biggest issue with it.

5230 is more legible for sure when telling the local time

[kingofthehill]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Can’t argue with your logic.

My purchases are always emotional, the piece needs to speak to me first and foremost.

Originally Posted by erics

100% agree. Way to go.

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i agree with the logic. However i would want a 5131 just for the sheer beauty.

I whole-heartedly agree in this respect also; as I mentioned earlier I find the concept of world time timepieces appealing and am certainly drawn by the attractive execution of several - including the 5230 and 5131 (of which there are some fantastic pictures in this thread) - despite those timespieces' inherent shortcomings (as I perceive them).

Whilst the 5131 is an entirely different prospect for several reasons, for the benefit of the broader discussion, if one was selecting a between the similarly cased and priced 5230 and 5396 for example, in my personal opinion the limitations of the 5230's complication would lend me to favour the 5396.

With that said, I would suggest that few amongst us would argue our interest and hobby to be logical!

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by ark1g09

I was in that shop today! Brunch was at Wolseley so strolled thru Burlington - went in and asked.

It was £105k. No thanks!

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for some ppl that sum is just a rounding error , unfortunatelly I m not belong to them.

[Hermann]

Whats the weight from a 5131R or 5131J or 5131G ??

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Hermann

Whats the weight from a 5131R or 5131J or 5131G ??

Should not be much different than any other PM dress watch in that size. Most ADs will probably have a standard WT in stock to try.

[Hermann]

When I would know how heavy a 5130G is I would also know how heavy a 5131G is...

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Hermann

When I would know how heavy a 5130G is I would also know how heavy a 5131G is...

Yes that was what I was getting at. Have you ever tried on a 5296? Lange 1815? etc

[Hermann]

Yes that’s true but I am on holidays.
I hope the watch is heavy enough for me, because I love heavy watches.
Can somebody tell me the weight from a 5130G ?
Thanks

[Hermann]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Yes that was what I was getting at. Have you ever tried on a 5296? Lange 1815? etc

I tried a few years ago a 5296.... that’s true, but I want to know the exact weight in grams.

Thanks

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Hermann

Whats the weight from a 5131R or 5131J or 5131G ??

5131R is 103.5g.

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by kingofthehill

In my humble opinion, in their current guise world time timepieces are highly compromised; unable to accurately or completely conduct their complication at more or less any time or to remain timeless, given their inability to be future proofed. Whilst I find the concept appealing and the execution of several highly attractive, I have long struggled with the relevance and value of these timepieces as a result.

I think all the flaws of the WTs can be corrected with the change of the city ring ,the manufacturer(any not just PP)isn t responsible for the changes some countries done by putting their cities back or forth in timezones(and about DST better not to talk)

[Hermann]

Originally Posted by Russell996

5131R is 103.5g.

Thank you very much !!!
You have a amazing collection
I am also thinking about to buy a 5131 on the second hand market... do you think a good collection needs such a watch?
is it not too colorful to wear it?
I am also on the way to reduce my collection to the max

[codecow]

Originally Posted by Hermann

Thank you very much !!!
You have a amazing collection
I am also thinking about to buy a 5131 on the second hand market... do you think a good collection needs such a watch?
is it not too colorful to wear it?
I am also on the way to reduce my collection to the max

What other watches do you have in your collection?

[Hermann]

Finally there should be a
5131/G or P (WG or Pt worldtimer wit email dial)
5170 P (manuel windig Pt chronograph with baguettes)
5740G ( perpetual calendar in WG and Nautilus)
Reduce to the maximum

[Bearxj86]

Had a 5130R for a while. Loved it for the looks but hated the following:

1) Hard as hell to read
2) For travellers, does not account for daylight savings

[pam66]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

Had a 5130R for a while. Loved it for the looks but hated the following:

1) Hard as hell to read
2) For travellers, does not account for daylight savings

nobody would argue that the WTs are practical pieces. i am surely much faster in calculating timeshifts myself than i am reading their dials:::)))).
it is for their perceived beauty i suppose...

[OH2004]

Originally Posted by Hermann

Finally there should be a
5131/G or P (WG or Pt worldtimer wit email dial)
5170 P (manuel windig Pt chronograph with baguettes)
5740G ( perpetual calendar in WG and Nautilus)
Reduce to the maximum

Those three would be it.

[serali]

grey market or auction house