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gufle · 18 February 2010, 02:07 AM

At the moment i have a Rolex 1665, Rolex 5508 and a JLC MC Geographic.

I am looking to buy a vintage Rolex more. I have to different watches in mind.

The Manuel Daytona 6262 or the 1665 Doubble Red.

If i were to choose one of the above mentioned watches my 1665 would have to go.

So i would end up with either the JLC, 6262 and 5508 or JLC, 1665 DRSD and the 5508.

Witch combination would you you choose?

Best Regards

Danny

DadsWatch72 · 18 February 2010, 02:38 AM

There is a big price difference between a Daytona 6262 and a DRSD. The Daytona is going to be a lot easier to find than a DRSD. Also, finding a good DRSD can be very risky. I don't think there are as many Daytona 6262's out there being faked as there are DRSD's being faked.

http://www.thedreamcollection.com/ho...&u=daytona6262

Dean F · 18 February 2010, 02:48 AM

Is the DRSD that expensive? There's another post listing two that went through auction; one sold for $25K with all paperwork, the other (highly documented including dive photos) sold for $162K, what's the medium for a nice documented DRSD? I know the Daytonas are $25-35K.

gufle · 18 February 2010, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean F

Is the DRSD that expensive? There's another post listing two that went through auction; one sold for $25K with all paperwork, the other (highly documented including dive photos) sold for $162K, what's the medium for a nice documented DRSD? I know the Daytonas are $25-35K.

In Europe the DRSD cost arround 16.500 - 20.000 Euros, and the 6262 coat from arround 20.000 - 23.500, so the DRSD i apx. 3.500 euros cheaper = apx. 5.000 $. So i am aware that i have to spend apx. 5.000 $ more on the 6262.

gufle · 18 February 2010, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

There is a big price difference between a Daytona 6262 and a DRSD. The Daytona is going to be a lot easier to find than a DRSD. Also, finding a good DRSD can be very risky. I don't think there are as many Daytona 6262's out there being faked as there are DRSD's being faked.

http://www.thedreamcollection.com/ho...&u=daytona6262

So what would you do?

DadsWatch72 · 18 February 2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gufle

In Europe the DRSD cost arround 16.500 - 20.000 Euros, and the 6262 coat from arround 20.000 - 23.500, so the DRSD i apx. 3.500 euros cheaper = apx. 5.000 $. So i am aware that i have to spend apx. 5.000 $ more on the 6262.

It depends on which DRSD your looking to purchase. Mark IV's are easier to find than a Mark I and a lot cheaper. The price and condition vary greatly on these watches. Some say the market price for the DRSD has fallen with the economy. The desire for them hasn't fallen, thats for sure. They usually draw a lot of attention and sell quickly if they are in good condition. I don't know too much about the Daytona's but they are very nice and have their own "following". I would say follow your heart and buy what makes you happiest if you can afford to do so. Here is a website for the DRSD that can give you an idea what to look for.

http://doubleredseadweller.com/

jedly1 · 18 February 2010, 07:00 AM

They really are quite different watches, the 6262 is the non screwdown or 'pumper pusher' metal bezel model made in short run for only a couple years circa 70-71, it is smaller in weight and 'presence' and actually feels smaller than it is ...and of course is manual wind.

The 1665 mk3 or 4 ( at your price range) as you know from your 1665 wears bigger than it actually is.

There are more cosmos available, but then there are also more people in the '4real world' like them and know what they are. Being honest neither are hugely rare and either can be fairly easily found... For 15-20k euro.

The 1665 White is probably rarer than both to be honest. If it's a pumper you want what about a 6239, on a good day you may get one at 12k-14k euro which may be a big enough saving on your budget to keep the 1665 for a while at least and see which wears well

gufle · 18 February 2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

They really are quite different watches, the 6262 is the non screwdown or 'pumper pusher' metal bezel model made in short run for only a couple years circa 70-71, it is smaller in weight and 'presence' and actually feels smaller than it is ...and of course is manual wind.

The 1665 mk3 or 4 ( at your price range) as you know from your 1665 wears bigger than it actually is.

There are more cosmos available, but then there are also more people in the '4real world' like them and know what they are. Being honest neither are hugely rare and either can be fairly easily found... For 15-20k euro.

The 1665 White is probably rarer than both to be honest. If it's a pumper you want what about a 6239, on a good day you may get one at 12k-14k euro which may be a big enough saving on your budget to keep the 1665 for a while at least and see which wears well

God point you have there.

My 1665 is a rail dial in superb condition, so i guess your right about this being more difficult to find.

So maybe the cheaper 6239 is a good solution. I have saved up 11.000 euros until now, so i should be able to find 3.000-4.000 euros more, without having to sell my 1665

datejust1 · 18 February 2010, 07:12 AM

The 6239!!

Welshwatchman · 18 February 2010, 07:24 AM

If someone sees a good 6239 for 12,000 Euro PLEEEEEEASSEEE PM me !!!!!!!!!

I'll pay a good finders fee, I promise.

In the UK the Daytona goes for quite a bit more than the DRSD, generally.

jedly1 · 18 February 2010, 07:25 AM

A nice rail 1665 eats a mk3 or 4 drsd for breakfast in terms of rarity.

Find a 6239 , you can always sell later if you don't get on with it.

jedly1 · 18 February 2010, 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=Welshwatchman;1658703]If someone sees a good 6239 for 12,000 Euro PLEEEEEEASSEEE PM me !!!!!!!!!

I'll pay a good finders fee, I promise.

it alld epends, if he wants to put the work in and be patient, if he wants one tommorrow he'll need luck, but then same goes for the drsd.

I did say on a good day, USA Market would be a good place to start, still an over supply and lack of confidence, screw pushers are still holding but pumpers not so much.

In the uk there was one at bham watch fair at £11k before Xmas.

gufle · 18 February 2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

[QUOTE;1658703]I did say on a good day, USA Market would be a good place to start, still an over supply and lack of confidence, screw pushers are still holding but pumpers not so much.

In the uk there was one at bham watch fair at £11k before Xmas.

So maybe one with pumpers would be a "bad" investment right now?

eparisini · 18 February 2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

A nice rail 1665 eats a mk3 or 4 drsd for breakfast in terms of rarity.

Find a 6239 , you can always sell later if you don't get on with it.

I've got a rail dialed 1665, do you want to trade with a drsd???

jedly1 · 18 February 2010, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=gufle;1659191]

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Originally Posted by jedly1

So maybe one with pumpers would be a "bad" investment right now?

Or a good time, depending how u look at it, the drsd are equally down on where they were in us Market.

oinkitt · 18 February 2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jedly1

Being honest neither are hugely rare and either can be fairly easily found... For 15-20k euro.

Yea, RARE must be the most abused word in the watch game. I would think the word rare in the rolex world would only relate to the early complications, mil subs, and comex models - and any of these can be had if you want to pay the price.

I kept away from rolex sport watches for years, coz every man and his dog had one.

gufle · 18 February 2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oinkitt

Yea, RARE must be the most abused word in the watch game. I would think the word rare in the rolex world would only relate to the early complications, mil subs, and comex models - and any of these can be had if you want to pay the price.

I kept away from rolex sport watches for years, coz every man and his dog had one.

Well I think every thing can be found i you want to pay the price.

oinkitt · 18 February 2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gufle

Well I think every thing can be found i you want to pay the price.

Thats not quite true - allot of early Patek models just cant be bought, there just were so few made.

gufle · 18 February 2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oinkitt

Thats not quite true - allot of early Patek models just cant be bought, there just were so few made.

If you would talk with antiqourum auction house and wanted an early Patek, I am quite sure that an offer of 100.000 million euros for an early Patek valued at around 2,5 million euros would buy you one in an instant, because the auction house knows who owns the watches they have sold in the past.

Im am not saying that this scenario is probable, but ist is just an illustration of what money can do.

maverick · 19 February 2010, 02:43 AM

I would never sell my 6239 that cheap. 19K - 20K Euros would be closer at today's exchange rate. =) maverick

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 03:35 AM

Can you find another DRSD that looks like this? Send link please.

Welshwatchman · 19 February 2010, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

Can you find another DRSD that looks like this? Send link please.

Have you lost yours, Dads?

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Have you lost yours, Dads?

That would be a Greek tragedy.

They say that these watches are not that rare. I have been looking for months online to compare and reference mine. I don't find many for sale and none in this good of condition. Most say "SOLD".

gufle · 19 February 2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick

I would never sell my 6239 that cheap. 19K - 20K Euros would be closer at today's exchange rate. =) maverick

Is the watch shown not a 6262 with the 727 movment, because Daytona is written on the Dial?

As i know Daytona is not written on the dial of a 6239.

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 03:53 AM

As Michael would say, "Thats not my area".

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 04:04 AM

6262

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 04:04 AM

6239

onkyo · 19 February 2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

Can you find another DRSD that looks like this? Send link please.

Yes, you can.... with original box and papers.

DadsWatch72 · 19 February 2010, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

Yes, you can.... with original box and papers.

Yours looks very nice (probably the nicest I have seen beside my own) but I wouldn't say it's in as good of shape as mine.

And I have service papers x2. If you put on a new bezel then it would make a world of difference IMO.

BASSETHOUNDS · 19 February 2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

If someone sees a good 6239 for 12,000 Euro PLEEEEEEASSEEE PM me !!!!!!!!!

I'll pay a good finders fee, I promise.

In the UK the Daytona goes for quite a bit more than the DRSD, generally.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that PM , if I were you Paul

18 February 2010, 02:07 AM	#1
gufle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Danny Location: Denmark Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 29	what to do? Rolex 6262 Daytona or DRSD At the moment i have a Rolex 1665, Rolex 5508 and a JLC MC Geographic. I am looking to buy a vintage Rolex more. I have to different watches in mind. The Manuel Daytona 6262 or the 1665 Doubble Red. If i were to choose one of the above mentioned watches my 1665 would have to go. So i would end up with either the JLC, 6262 and 5508 or JLC, 1665 DRSD and the 5508. Witch combination would you you choose? Best Regards Danny

18 February 2010, 07:24 AM	#10
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	If someone sees a good 6239 for 12,000 Euro PLEEEEEEASSEEE PM me !!!!!!!!! I'll pay a good finders fee, I promise. In the UK the Daytona goes for quite a bit more than the DRSD, generally. __________________ ..33

18 February 2010, 07:31 AM	#12
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,917	[QUOTE=Welshwatchman;1658703]If someone sees a good 6239 for 12,000 Euro PLEEEEEEASSEEE PM me !!!!!!!!! I'll pay a good finders fee, I promise. it alld epends, if he wants to put the work in and be patient, if he wants one tommorrow he'll need luck, but then same goes for the drsd. I did say on a good day, USA Market would be a good place to start, still an over supply and lack of confidence, screw pushers are still holding but pumpers not so much. In the uk there was one at bham watch fair at £11k before Xmas. Last edited by jedly1; 18 February 2010 at 07:45 AM.. Reason: terrible spelling as usual

18 February 2010, 02:38 AM	#2
DadsWatch72 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: DRSD 1665 #3551XXX Posts: 2,401	There is a big price difference between a Daytona 6262 and a DRSD. The Daytona is going to be a lot easier to find than a DRSD. Also, finding a good DRSD can be very risky. I don't think there are as many Daytona 6262's out there being faked as there are DRSD's being faked. http://www.thedreamcollection.com/ho...&u=daytona6262

18 February 2010, 02:48 AM	#3
Dean F "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 87	Is the DRSD that expensive? There's another post listing two that went through auction; one sold for $25K with all paperwork, the other (highly documented including dive photos) sold for $162K, what's the medium for a nice documented DRSD? I know the Daytonas are $25-35K.

18 February 2010, 07:00 AM	#7
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,917	They really are quite different watches, the 6262 is the non screwdown or 'pumper pusher' metal bezel model made in short run for only a couple years circa 70-71, it is smaller in weight and 'presence' and actually feels smaller than it is ...and of course is manual wind. The 1665 mk3 or 4 ( at your price range) as you know from your 1665 wears bigger than it actually is. There are more cosmos available, but then there are also more people in the '4real world' like them and know what they are. Being honest neither are hugely rare and either can be fairly easily found... For 15-20k euro. The 1665 White is probably rarer than both to be honest. If it's a pumper you want what about a 6239, on a good day you may get one at 12k-14k euro which may be a big enough saving on your budget to keep the 1665 for a while at least and see which wears well

18 February 2010, 07:12 AM	#9
datejust1 Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: G Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 6,042	The 6239!!

18 February 2010, 07:25 AM	#11
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,917	A nice rail 1665 eats a mk3 or 4 drsd for breakfast in terms of rarity. Find a 6239 , you can always sell later if you don't get on with it.

19 February 2010, 02:43 AM	#20
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	I would never sell my 6239 that cheap. 19K - 20K Euros would be closer at today's exchange rate. =) maverick

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