Lace-Up Boots - Thursday Captains in Tobacco Brown?

[Santiago32]

I'm keen on buying my first pair of lace-up boots. I came across Thursday Captains in Tobacco Brown. Thoughts?

Are there other brands/models I should be considering? I don't have a set budget but I would like to own a pair of dark brown lace-up boots that are timeless in style and are durable.

https://thursdayboots.com/products/mens-brown-captain

[dddrees]

If your willing to spend more you certainly can get better boots. However it's up to you and what your wiling to spend but I can guarantee they will be nicer boots. Although it says it's a dress shoe thread there are tons of lace up boots here.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ighlight=shoes

For the style let me just name a few:

Viberg
Whites Boot Co
Nicks Boots
Wesco
Truman
Alden
Rancourt
Oakstreet Bootmakers

For less and not quite as nice
Redwing
Wolverine 1000 mile boots.

To name but a few all of which I own something of personally other than Nicks which I have on order, Wesco and Truman which are nice but I yet to own a pair. So I can certainly vouch for all of these companies.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by HHIslander

Those boots really look great. As do all the other boots posted here. Who makes the best matte/unshiny black boots for a more casual look? Never owned any but I’m going to have to pick some up.

Originally Posted by dddrees

If your willing to spend more you certainly can get better boots. However it's up to you and what your wiling to spend but I can guarantee they will be nicer boots. Although it says it's a dress shoe thread there are tons of lace up boots here.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ighlight=shoes

For the style let me just name a few:

Viberg
Whites Boot Co
Nicks Boots
Wesco
Truman
Alden
Rancourt
Oakstreet Bootmakers

For less and not quite as nice
Redwing
Wolverine 1000 mile boots.

To name but a few all of which I own something of personally other than Nicks which I have on order, Wesco and Truman which are nice but I yet to own a pair. So I can certainly vouch for all of these companies.

In regards to boots as a whole I would stick with my original boot maker list and then take a look at what they offer. Some of course will offer different leathers with different finishing from time to time however I would think you should be able to find something that matches what your looking for.

[HHIslander]

Originally Posted by dddrees

In regards to boots as a whole I would stick with my original boot maker list and then take a look at what they offer. Some of course will offer different leathers with different finishing from time to time however I would think you should be able to find something that matches what your looking for.

Thanks. I'll take a look at that. If you had to pick one of those, who would you recommend?

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by HHIslander

Thanks. I'll take a look at that. If you had to pick one of those, who would you recommend?

Personally I really like my Vibergs. My Whites are extremely nice, but a different type of boot. The Nicks boots I have on order will be closer to my Whites as Whites and Nicks are considered to be more of a work boot. I expect I still may pick up a pair of Trumans at some point as they really do offer a good number of very interesting leathers.

Some differences in style are fairly easy to see between the various boot makers as other details it wouldn’t hurt to have a look at Styleforum as most have their own threads and you can discover a number of things to include hints on sizing as well.

Vibergs are considered more of a fashion boot where detail is more of a consideration where Whites and Nicks being more of a work boot. Nicks being one of the most solid boots your money can buy and the break in being a reflection of that.

[HHIslander]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You cannot lose with Viberg Henry.

Originally Posted by dddrees

Personally I really like my Vibergs. My Whites are extremely nice, but a different type of boot. The Nicks boots I have on order will be closer to my Whites as Whites and Nicks are considered to be more of a work boot. I expect I still may pick up a pair of Trumans at some point as they really do offer a good number of very interesting leathers.

Some differences in style are fairly easy to see between the various boot makers as other details it wouldn’t hurt to have a look at Styleforum as most have their own threads and you can discover a number of things to include hints on sizing as well.

Vibergs are considered more of a fashion boot where detail is more of a consideration where Whites and Nicks being more of a work boot. Nicks being one of the most solid boots your money can buy and the break in being a reflection of that.

Thanks to you both.

Viberg it is. Looking at it now and really like the service boots in waxed Kudu. That's exactly the look I am going for.

[dddrees]

If you wish to do any further research on any of these I highly recommend going to the following websites where a good number of these shoemakers\bootmakers have user threads you can mine for details. Feel free as well to ask me anything and I will do my best to answer whatever questions you have. But these threads will surely give you a good bit of information as well.

You may not have expected to pay more than $200 but you asked an open ended question and I am only giving you my perspective on a good number of better boots you can buy but its going to cost you more than $200. If you buy a good pair of Goodyear welted boots they are an investment that can last you an extremely long time.

https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/

https://www.styleforum.net/forums/st...-and-denim.13/

There is a good chance Thursday Boots are mentioned in the streetwear-and-denim subforum as well.

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by dddrees

If you wish to do any further research on any of these I highly recommend going to the following websites where a good number of these shoemakers\bootmakers have user threads you can mine for details. Feel free as well to ask me anything and I will do my best to answer whatever questions you have. But these threads will surely give you a good bit of information as well.

You may not have expected to pay more than $200 but you asked an open ended question and I am only giving you my perspective on a good number of better boots you can buy but its going to cost you more than $200. If you buy a good pair of Goodyear welted boots they are an investment that can last you an extremely long time.

https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/

https://www.styleforum.net/forums/st...-and-denim.13/

There is a good chance Thursday Boots are mentioned in the streetwear-and-denim subforum as well.

Thank you for all the info. I would prefer paying for quality and having a nice pair that will last. I did a bit of research based on your links and brand recommendations... and I like these Viberg Service Boots:
https://viberg.com/products/service-...758c8e37&_ss=r

Dumb question... what makes a boot dressy? I'm assuming by the laces and the model name these Viberg's are casual.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

Thank you for all the info. I would prefer paying for quality and having a nice pair that will last. I did a bit of research based on your links and brand recommendations... and I like these Viberg Service Boots:
https://viberg.com/products/service-...758c8e37&_ss=r

Dumb question... what makes a boot dressy? I'm assuming by the laces and the model name these Viberg's are casual?

What makes a boot dressy? As with anything the style, leather, finishing. Plenty of examples in the next thread even though some casual boots are included as well. I know you"ll be able to find a few. The dressiest boot is considered a balmoral boot.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ighlight=shoes

Vibergs are casual boots, but they are considered fashion boots ever since about the time the Japanese adopted these boots as their own even though they are made in Canada. Great choice by the way and you"ll notice I listed them first for a reason. Although many on the list are extremely nice boots.

So you"ve noticed Vibergs as well as others have their own thread with an incredible amount of information although you will have to mine these these threads to get there. Some have more than 1000 pages, short pages but tons of pages on some of these.

Getting the right fit on something you may not be able to try on before you can buy them will be the challenge. I have a medium width foot that makes this much easier and with many brands under my belt comparisons for me are much easier. Users in these threads will often provide comparisons to other boots they own to help guide those that own other boots already. Many good shoe or boot shops are very capable of providing great guidance as well. Keep note however some bootmakers like Whites and Nicks have the ability to try on a pair they will send you and others like Alden may be sold locally. Then there are retailers that sell others like Viberg that have return policies. All things worth looking into. The Last the bootmaker uses which is always proprietary will greatly determine what size and how well it will fit. Knowing your Brannock size is the first step regardless.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

Thank you for all the info. I would prefer paying for quality and having a nice pair that will last. I did a bit of research based on your links and brand recommendations... and I like these Viberg Service Boots:
https://viberg.com/products/service-...758c8e37&_ss=r

Dumb question... what makes a boot dressy? I'm assuming by the laces and the model name these Viberg's are casual.

Keep in mind when buying good quality footwear it's also a good idea to switch them out on a daily basis giving the leather a chance to recover between wearing. That and invest in shoetrees for keeping their shape and helping with moisture removal. I also use dustbags especially since I have so many I hardly ever wear the same pair twice in the same week or even much longer for many of them. Vibergs even provide with a pair of Dustbags.

[dddrees]

If you remember anything when buying quality shoes or boots fit is King make sure it's going to fit or your not going to want to wear them.

[espanol]

Originally Posted by dddrees

If you remember anything when buying quality shoes or boots fit is King make sure it's going to fit or your not going to want to wear them.

Great point. I have a pair of Meermin suede boots, which I quite like, but the fit isn't perfect and thus, I tend to gravitate away from them.

Question, any mid-tier boot or even Oxford recommendations for flat, narrow feet?

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by espanol

Great point. I have a pair of Meermin suede boots, which I quite like, but the fit isn't perfect and thus, I tend to gravitate away from them.

Question, any mid-tier boot or even Oxford recommendations for flat, narrow feet?

Sorry, as this is not an issue for me it’s not something I’ve paid ant attention too. However Styleforum would be a great place to start as they have separate threads not only most of the more popular shoemakers but sometimes on specific issues such as this one. No guarantees that they do have on thread on this specific issue but there’s nothing stoping you from posting that question either. Plenty of info however just sometimes may require you to spend so time mining that data.

Personally I wouldn’t classify Meerimin as mid-tier however. I think Crocket and Jones might be a better example of mid-their.

[JasoninDenver]

Originally Posted by espanol

Great point. I have a pair of Meermin suede boots, which I quite like, but the fit isn't perfect and thus, I tend to gravitate away from them.

Question, any mid-tier boot or even Oxford recommendations for flat, narrow feet?

In your same boat with the narrower foot.

I find the Crockett & Jones 341 (classic shaped) and 248 (modern long) last fit my foot well. I do size down one full size from US to UK.

Also, Edward Greens 82 last fit beautifully if you don't mind the price.

Some Allen Edmonds lasts like the classic shoe 62 also fit very well. They have a boot variant (511) last that may work. However, I still find AE’s quality to be hit or miss to the extent that I never order online. I bought a pair of Higgins Mill last season (sized down 1/2 size) and it took three pairs to find a perfect stitched toe detail.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

In your same boat with the narrower foot.

I find the Crockett & Jones 341 (classic shaped) and 248 (modern long) last fit my foot well. I do size down one full size from US to UK.

Also, Edward Greens 82 last fit beautifully if you don't mind the price.

Some Allen Edmonds lasts like the classic shoe 62 also fit very well. They have a boot variant (511) last that may work. However, I still find AE’s quality to be hit or miss to the extent that I never order online. I bought a pair of Higgins Mill last season (sized down 1/2 size) and it took three pairs to find a perfect stitched toe detail.

The 82 from Edward Green and off the top of my head the MH71 from G&G are the best fitting lasts I own and I don’t even have narrow flat feet. Just so happens the price currently is probably the best it’s been for awhile now.

[Nice marmot]

I just picked up a pair of Red Wing iron rangers. Pretty happy so far, very well built. Made is the USA if that is important to you.

[brandrea]

Thursday boots are good entry level "good boot".

Viberg is one of my favorites in the mid to higher end category.

These 310 service boots are SO comfortable. They also have Halkett Boots (second picture) that have a similar vibe to the Thursdays.

Of course nothing beats Kreosote Boots although they're a bit like Rolex ... with a 3 year wait list 20221012_162712.jpg

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[dddrees]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Thursday boots are good entry level "good boot".

Viberg is one of my favorites in the mid to higher end category.

These 310 service boots are SO comfortable. They also have Halkett Boots (second picture) that have a similar vibe to the Thursdays.

Of course nothing beats Kreosote Boots although they're a bit like Rolex ... with a 3 year wait list Attachment 1324381

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NICE!!!

[Dr.Brian]

I like my Alden 405 original Indy boots, but they’re a bit heavy.
They have a lot that are similar if you like the style but not necessarily the color.
Different uppers, soles, etc. They’re more statement and function than style.

[walds11]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

I like my Alden 405 original Indy boots, but they’re a bit heavy.
They have a lot that are similar if you like the style but not necessarily the color.
Different uppers, soles, etc. They’re more statement and function than style.

I have a pair of Alden Ultimate Indys from Leather Soul. High quality, nice fit and style, but they are very heavy. If there is a similar casual boot that is much lighter, I am all over it.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by walds11

I have a pair of Alden Ultimate Indys from Leather Soul. High quality, nice fit and style, but they are very heavy. If there is a similar casual boot that is much lighter, I am all over it.

Generally speaking and I mean generally speaking it's been my experience the more money you spend especially on these type of boots you"ll find these type of boots to get heavier and it has a lot to do with the better materials they use. Alden by no means are the heaviest of the boots I wear. Also heavy often is just a matter of perspective and what you have experience with. I can tell you most of these boots are extremely comfortable to wear as long as you get a good fit. However my Edward Green Galways which cost a good bit more than my Aldens are not that much heavier if not about the same. Edward Greens are an entirely diffrent boot in the first place. It's not that I am saying this is a definitive pattern for all boots and they just keep getting heavier the more money you spend. I didn't include Edward Green initially because they make an entirely diffrent style of boot. Extremely nice but a totally different style of boot.

However in this category for good quality of boots if looking for something lighter I would explore Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers. Wolverione 1000 mile boots are some of the lightest boots I own. Good boots but often people are unsatisfied with the creasing that comes with the leather on this cheaper boot. I would recommend Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers over Wolverines.

[walds11]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Generally speaking and I mean generally speaking it's been my experience the more money you spend especially on these type of boots you"ll find these type of boots to get heavier and it has a lot to do with the better materials they use. Alden by no means are the heaviest of the boots I wear. Also heavy often is just a matter of perspective and what you have experience with. I can tell you most of these boots are extremely comfortable to wear as long as you get a good fit. However my Edward Green Galways which cost a good bit more than my Aldens are not that much heavier if not about the same. Edward Greens are an entirely diffrent boot in the first place. It's not that I am saying this is a definitive pattern for all boots and they just keep getting heavier the more money you spend. I didn't include Edward Green initially because they make an entirely diffrent style of boot. Extremely nice but a totally different style of boot.

However in this category for good quality of boots if looking for something lighter I would explore Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers. Wolverione 1000 mile boots are some of the lightest boots I own. Good boots but often people are unsatisfied with the creasing that comes with the leather on this cheaper boot. I would recommend Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers over Wolverines.

I have a pair of Wolverine Courtland 1000 Mile boots. Yes, they are light, but meh in general. I use them as beaters. I’ll take a look at Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by walds11

I have a pair of Wolverine Courtland 1000 Mile boots. Yes, they are light, but meh in general. I use them as beaters. I’ll take a look at Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers.

Yep, as I tried to point out they are not the best boots but more a reflection of the price point they sit at.

Be advised I have shoes and not boots from Rancourt and Oakstreet Bootmakers and can personally vouch for their quality. Based on what I have seen I am assuming (although I believe strongly it to be true) that these would be lighter than Alden Boots.

[swils8610]

I’ve been wearing Alden boots for years. No complaints


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[Star Ferry]

If budget is flexible I would recommend Viberg. Have a great pair of their “service boot” in antelope

[Schmed]

Allen Edmonds makes some great boots, too. Most (all?) are made in the US.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Schmed

Allen Edmonds makes some great boots, too. Most (all?) are made in the US.

The reason I didn't even put Allen Edmonds on my list is that quality with Allen Edmonds can be really spotty. One of the biggest reasons is the shear number of shoes and boots they manufacture. However Allen Edmonds can be purchased locally in a vast number of locations so instead of purchasing via the internet it can be rather easy to find a local place to purchase them and thus you can also inspect them before doing so.

I would also say their custopmer support has always been real good to the point they would replace their mistakes no matter how many times it takes to get it right.

Personally I just find that many other shoemakers make a nicer boot.

[Ny325]

OP, I bought a pair of Thursday boots, ( President) model in tobacco. I find them uncomfortable. I still have them, however, I wear my Allen Edmonds Higgins boots more. I might be giving the Thursday boots away. Yes, for $200, there not bad. Personally, I don’t see myself wearing them again.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Ny325

OP, I bought a pair of Thursday boots, ( President) model in tobacco. I find them uncomfortable. I still have them, however, I wear my Allen Edmonds Higgins boots more. I might be giving the Thursday boots away. Yes, for $200, there not bad. Personally, I don’t see myself wearing them again.

There are many reasons why a boot can be uncomfortable to include the fact that possibly they are just ill fitting. Something maybe where you just got the wrong size or that particular Last just doesn't work for your feet. For this reason this is a review with this current level of detail that should be taken with a grain of salt.

Personally without any actual experience with the brand at this price point and based on the negatives I've read about it's not a brand I would recommend. All I remember at this point are enough negatives it reflects a boot at this price point where quality can be spotty and materials used are not going to be as nice as I would like.

[Swearengen]

Can't beat the good 'ol cherry red DMs