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Old 22 October 2022, 12:17 AM   #61
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Personally I really like my Vibergs. My Whites are extremely nice, but a different type of boot. The Nicks boots I have on order will be closer to my Whites as Whites and Nicks are considered to be more of a work boot. I expect I still may pick up a pair of Trumans at some point as they really do offer a good number of very interesting leathers.

Some differences in style are fairly easy to see between the various boot makers as other details it wouldn’t hurt to have a look at Styleforum as most have their own threads and you can discover a number of things to include hints on sizing as well.

Vibergs are considered more of a fashion boot where detail is more of a consideration where Whites and Nicks being more of a work boot. Nicks being one of the most solid boots your money can buy and the break in being a reflection of that.
Thanks to you both.

Viberg it is. Looking at it now and really like the service boots in waxed Kudu. That's exactly the look I am going for.

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Old 22 October 2022, 01:42 AM   #62
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I have shoes by Crockett & Jones, John Lobb (not of Pall Mall) and Edward Green of Jermyn St. london but Edward Green for sure IMO are the best for comfort, quality of leather and workmanship. Expensive yes! But I always regret it when I buy elsewhere!
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Old 22 October 2022, 01:43 AM   #63
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The Alden Indy boot. Thats all you will need. I have 2 pair, the ones with the leather sole and the other with the thick rubber and both as as comfortable as sneakers.
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Old 22 October 2022, 02:18 AM   #64
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I have shoes by Crockett & Jones, John Lobb (not of Pall Mall) and Edward Green of Jermyn St. london but Edward Green for sure IMO are the best for comfort, quality of leather and workmanship. Expensive yes! But I always regret it when I buy elsewhere!
Same here with a few others as well. I consider Edward Green and Gaziano & Girling to be my favorites and to be fairly equal in all aspects.

Galways are my overall favorite boot.
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Old 22 October 2022, 02:19 AM   #65
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The Alden Indy boot. Thats all you will need. I have 2 pair, the ones with the leather sole and the other with the thick rubber and both as as comfortable as sneakers.
Nice boots, but there are nicer boots that one can buy.
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Damn. This thread just cost me a grand. I have a pair of Whites that I love but they are a little on the heavy side. Based on a comment in here I checked out Oak Street and just bought two pairs. Iím 6í4Ē so donít like (or need) boots with thick soles. The Oak Street look like they hit the mark for lower profile and comfort. Guess Iíll find out soon!
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Old 22 October 2022, 08:03 AM   #67
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Damn. This thread just cost me a grand. I have a pair of Whites that I love but they are a little on the heavy side. Based on a comment in here I checked out Oak Street and just bought two pairs. Iím 6í4Ē so donít like (or need) boots with thick soles. The Oak Street look like they hit the mark for lower profile and comfort. Guess Iíll find out soon!

Some of these people I swear, bunch of enablers.

Good choice, Congrats!!

Do us favor if you donít mind and let us know what you think when you actually get them.
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Old 22 October 2022, 09:12 AM   #68
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Some of these people I swear, bunch of enablers.

Good choice, Congrats!!

Do us favor if you donít mind and let us know what you think when you actually get them.

Total enablers! This whole forum is full of them, and I love them for it. :)

Will do! I ordered the wild boar field boot and the black cap toe lakeshore.

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Total enablers! This whole forum is full of them, and I love them for it. :)

Will do! I ordered the wild boar field boot and the black cap toe lakeshore.

https://oakstreetbootmakers.com/fiel...-700-cork-sole

https://oakstreetbootmakers.com/lake...l-dainite-sole
It often makes it much easier to find things, instead of having to spend so much time starting from scratch.
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I received the Vibergs today and Iím impressed. Quality is superb! Iím so glad I was able to swap them for a size smaller last minute. They fit very well.
Congrats, quality footwear you got there
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@Dan, I have a pair of Allen Edmond boots that have formed a nasty crease over the toes after a few wears. I’ve pretty much signed them off, but was curious if theirs any tricks to help re-shape/remove the crease. I assume no, but thought it was worth an ask.
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Thanks to you both.

Viberg it is. Looking at it now and really like the service boots in waxed Kudu. That's exactly the look I am going for.

Exactly what I wear, the kudu leather is special



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@Dan, I have a pair of Allen Edmond boots that have formed a nasty crease over the toes after a few wears. Iíve pretty much signed them off, but was curious if theirs any tricks to help re-shape/remove the crease. I assume no, but thought it was worth an ask.
Placing shoe trees in your shoes typically will help to prevent this sort of thing. Probably the best I could suggest at this point would be applying conditioner such as Bick 4 on them and using shoe trees. Shoe cream might help soften the leather.
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Old 22 October 2022, 11:19 PM   #74
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Although I don't have Kudu on any this style of boots I do have it on a couple pair of my G&G's both boots and shoes.
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The Alden Indy boot. Thats all you will need. I have 2 pair, the ones with the leather sole and the other with the thick rubber and both as as comfortable as sneakers.
Agree thatís a great boot. My issue is not with the boot itself, but rather that they now ask $600 for it, which pushes you close to the Viberg price point
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Placing shoe trees in your shoes typically will help to prevent this sort of thing. Probably the best I could suggest at this point would be applying conditioner such as Bick 4 on them and using shoe trees. Shoe cream might help soften the leather.
I will give it a try! Thanks, Dan
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Yeah, no way to get rid of it now.

Hopefully though they will be to the point you can wear them though.
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Iíve read that shoes should be conditioned and polished out of the box. Does this apply to boots as well?
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I’ve read that shoes should be conditioned and polished out of the box. Does this apply to boots as well?
To clarify you mean you believe that you should have to condition and polish new shoes the minute you get them?

Not true. The truth is more that you want to condition and polish as needed. Doesn't mean I won't do it, but I only do it when the shoes or boots need it and that is rather rare when I find I need to do it when I first get a pair of shoes or boots. Typically that's the case only when I wish to apply a spit shine or as some call it a bull shine then I have applied polish to a new pair of shoes and even then I only apply what is necessary and typically on a good pair of shoes it doesn't take much.

Also there are a good number of shoes I will condition and rarely polish as I only apply polish or conditioner when necessary. Overuse is just that overuse and there certainly can be as you only need to apply when needed. Because some shoes, boots, and leathers don't really need that much polish and conditioning is more in line with what they need.

Do keep in mind however that a conditioner such as Bick 4 will help prevent water spots. If I knew I were wearing a pair of shoes or boots in the rain it wouldn't hurt to apply a bit of conditioner if you have not yet.
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To clarify you mean you believe that you should have to condition and polish new shoes the minute you get them?

Not true. The truth is more that you want to condition and polish as needed. Doesn't mean I won't do it, but I only do it when the shoes or boots need it and that is rather rare when I find I need to do it when I first get a pair of shoes or boots. Typically that's the case only when I wish to apply a spit shine or as some call it a bull shine then I have applied polish to a new pair of shoes and even then I only apply what is necessary and typically on a good pair of shoes it doesn't take much.

Also there are a good number of shoes I will condition and rarely polish as I only apply polish or conditioner when necessary. Overuse is just that overuse and there certainly can be as you only need to apply when needed. Because some shoes, boots, and leathers don't really need that much polish and conditioning is more in line with what they need.

Do keep in mind however that a conditioner such as Bick 4 will help prevent water spots. If I knew I were wearing a pair of shoes or boots in the rain it wouldn't hurt to apply a bit of conditioner if you have not yet.
Thanks! I just picked up some Bick 4 and Saphir wax in dark brown. I saw a video of Kirby Allison saying to apply them to new Allen Edmonds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65sSrdbt2eM) and I was curious if Viberg boots would need a similar treatment. I'll apply when needed though and if I wear them in the rain. Thanks for the tips!
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Thanks! I just picked up some Bick 4 and Saphir wax in dark brown. I saw a video of Kirby Allison saying to apply them to new Allen Edmonds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65sSrdbt2eM) and I was curious if Viberg boots would need a similar treatment. I'll apply when needed though and if I wear them in the rain. Thanks for the tips!
Although it might not hurt, I just don't tend to apply any product on my shoes or boots unless it's necessary.
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Those look great. I presume thatís Zulu? If so, we will have the same boot.
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Thank you. these are Viberg 310's

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I do treat my boots and shoes at the beginning of every winter. Saphir for most but Obenaufís oil for the foul weather boots. Obenaufís does darken most leathers but itís weather protection is outstanding.
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I have three pair in my closet and find it hard to wear anything else, including my Edward Green and Crocket & Jones.

The last pair I bought were the Turnout model which has the rounded toe. I get comment on those all the time. Especially when people can see they are not just cowboy boots.
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Question, any mid-tier boot or even Oxford recommendations for flat, narrow feet?
In your same boat with the narrower foot.

I find the Crockett & Jones 341 (classic shaped) and 248 (modern long) last fit my foot well. I do size down one full size from US to UK.

Also, Edward Greens 82 last fit beautifully if you don't mind the price.

Some Allen Edmonds lasts like the classic shoe 62 also fit very well. They have a boot variant (511) last that may work. However, I still find AEís quality to be hit or miss to the extent that I never order online. I bought a pair of Higgins Mill last season (sized down 1/2 size) and it took three pairs to find a perfect stitched toe detail.
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In your same boat with the narrower foot.

I find the Crockett & Jones 341 (classic shaped) and 248 (modern long) last fit my foot well. I do size down one full size from US to UK.

Also, Edward Greens 82 last fit beautifully if you don't mind the price.

Some Allen Edmonds lasts like the classic shoe 62 also fit very well. They have a boot variant (511) last that may work. However, I still find AE’s quality to be hit or miss to the extent that I never order online. I bought a pair of Higgins Mill last season (sized down 1/2 size) and it took three pairs to find a perfect stitched toe detail.
The 82 from Edward Green and off the top of my head the MH71 from G&G are the best fitting lasts I own and I don’t even have narrow flat feet. Just so happens the price currently is probably the best it’s been for awhile now.
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I just purchased a pair on Stonington boots from L.L Bean. Right out the box, there comfortable, and very light. I like them better, than my Thursday President boots.
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