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manonabike · 27 February 2016, 11:36 PM

Hi guys,
I've got an itch for a Pepsi GMT but not sure if I should be looking for a 16700 series or 16710. I realise that the later model has the independent hour hand giving the option for 3 time zones but are there other considerations? Do people prefer one over the other and if so why?
Unless a ceramic model is due to be launched I'm going to look at pre-loved.
Many thanks

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mineral · 28 February 2016, 12:41 AM

I prefer the 16700 as it is easier to change date due to quick set. And I think the quality of 16700 is smaller than the 16710.

Colin10101 · 28 February 2016, 01:05 AM

I prefer the 16710 because I'm not a pepsi fan - I like coke!

bbressler · 28 February 2016, 01:13 AM

I prefer jump hour for travel, so 16710

nick c · 28 February 2016, 01:15 AM

16710 for me

powerfunk · 28 February 2016, 01:19 AM

The 116710 does have a ceramic insert; are those out of the question?

Regardless I'd vote 16700. Quickset date! Plus I never bought into the "third time zone" because there are no 24h markings on the dial or chapter ring; imho they all track two time zones.

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JohnAcosta · 28 February 2016, 01:20 AM

16710 all day every day!

sickened1 · 28 February 2016, 01:26 AM

I like the jump-hour feature on the newer 3185 movement so 16710 for me.

Dan Pierce · 28 February 2016, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbressler

I prefer jump hour for travel, so 16710

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick c

16710 for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAcosta

16710 all day every day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickened1

I like the jump-hour feature on the newer 3185 movement so 16710 for me.

Yep!^^^^^

dP

Ryuden · 28 February 2016, 02:27 AM

I didn't really gave it a thought before I got my first Gmt nor did I asked for any opinions in here either...it was the price that speaks the loudest to me and I got the 16700 for a what to me was a much much better deal than the 16710 (about $700 usd diff between the two) and mine is one of the last Master with the "SWISS" only dial.

And I am with those gentlemen who appreciates the quick set date (having couple of watches in rotation, the quickset date is a very very welcoming feature) plus the third time zone feature on the 16710 is to calculate a third time zone temporarily before setting it back to the tracked second time zone.

Both are great anyways...it's purely personal preference base on prices or features...

manonabike · 28 February 2016, 02:46 AM

Should have said that I'm not going for a WG model

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Jason71 · 28 February 2016, 03:05 AM

Incidentally, from the title......the 16700 is just a GMT Master and not a GMT Master II. I like both and have both. IMHO, if part of a larger collection, then 16700. If worn daily, 16710.

JMHO.

mrchrisx69 · 28 February 2016, 04:04 AM

Love my Gmt master 2

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Tools · 28 February 2016, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

Incidentally, from the title......the 16700 is just a GMT Master and not a GMT Master II. I like both and have both. IMHO, if part of a larger collection, then 16700. If worn daily, 16710.

JMHO.

What do you mean "...just a GMT Master"..

Visually you can't tell the difference between a 16700 or a 16710 from the same era (they were sold side-by-side for a decade) except for the II on the dial.

If you don't feel a need for the jump hour hand, either is a fine time-piece. I have several of both and the 16700 black sees a lot of wrist time..

manonabike · 28 February 2016, 06:39 AM

Thanks for all the input, and for correcting me where necessary. It's likely to be a weekend watch in rotation with a number of others including a LV, Daytona, Speedmaster, a couple of Tags. I don't flip my watches but expect them to hold their value as much as possible so not sure if either the GMT or GMT2 are any better or worse in that respect. I've been offered a 16700 but I think it's had a bezel swap from a black to Pepsi.

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arguetaoscar · 28 February 2016, 06:49 AM

16700, Quickset makes a difference when rotating watches, as stated before.

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red1108nyc · 28 February 2016, 07:11 AM

When it comes to GMTs, there is only ONE for me..

Explorertwo · 28 February 2016, 07:16 AM

My 'Swiss' only says hi!
16710 btw

You will love either of them!

Aceldama · 28 February 2016, 07:36 AM

16700 for me. Quick set date and I can track as many times as I want using the bezel. Just give it a turn.

Jason71 · 28 February 2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

What do you mean "...just a GMT Master"..

Touche'

Rockrolex · 28 February 2016, 07:58 AM

This one happens to be my favorite watch (16710 LN).

Timesurfer · 28 February 2016, 08:33 AM

16710 pepsi is my favorite without movimg toward ceramics... Its a fantastic watch! I use it with a brown cordovan strap.....

3185 with the jump hour for me since i use it for traveling....

springer · 28 February 2016, 08:57 AM

My choice between the two would be the GMT-MASTER 16700 model.

deepcdweller · 28 February 2016, 09:16 PM

Prefer Choose 16710..
Mine says Hi..

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MLF · 28 February 2016, 10:29 PM

I have a 16700 and love it ,just love at first sight and took it but I don't think you can go wrong with any of them

GsurgBM · 28 February 2016, 11:37 PM

16710 for me on jubillee

CRM114 · 29 February 2016, 12:03 AM

Can't go wrong with either!

DVC · 29 February 2016, 01:23 AM

16700 for the quick set and the dial just looks perfect without the "II".

Tools · 29 February 2016, 01:39 AM

The 16700 is the last of the GMT Masters.

Definitely one of my favorites..

Explorertwo · 29 February 2016, 05:41 AM

^ great pic Larry!!!

27 February 2016, 11:36 PM	#1
manonabike "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: London Posts: 11	GMT Master 2 16700 or 16710 Hi guys, I've got an itch for a Pepsi GMT but not sure if I should be looking for a 16700 series or 16710. I realise that the later model has the independent hour hand giving the option for 3 time zones but are there other considerations? Do people prefer one over the other and if so why? Unless a ceramic model is due to be launched I'm going to look at pre-loved. Many thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 12:41 AM	#2
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	I prefer the 16700 as it is easier to change date due to quick set. And I think the quality of 16700 is smaller than the 16710. __________________ Watching date changes every midnight

28 February 2016, 01:05 AM	#3
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	I prefer the 16710 because I'm not a pepsi fan - I like coke! __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

28 February 2016, 03:05 AM	#12
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Incidentally, from the title......the 16700 is just a GMT Master and not a GMT Master II. I like both and have both. IMHO, if part of a larger collection, then 16700. If worn daily, 16710. JMHO. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

28 February 2016, 07:58 AM	#21
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,507	This one happens to be my favorite watch (16710 LN). __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

28 February 2016, 01:13 AM	#4
bbressler "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Texas Watch: Exp, GMTII, Sub Posts: 1,184	I prefer jump hour for travel, so 16710

28 February 2016, 01:15 AM	#5
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	16710 for me

28 February 2016, 01:19 AM	#6
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,782	The 116710 does have a ceramic insert; are those out of the question? Regardless I'd vote 16700. Quickset date! Plus I never bought into the "third time zone" because there are no 24h markings on the dial or chapter ring; imho they all track two time zones. Sent from my 0PM92 using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 01:20 AM	#7
JohnAcosta "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Louisiana Watch: GMTII/Panda Speedy Posts: 286	16710 all day every day!

28 February 2016, 01:26 AM	#8
sickened1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 8,962	I like the jump-hour feature on the newer 3185 movement so 16710 for me.

28 February 2016, 02:27 AM	#10
Ryuden "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Miki Location: SG Posts: 1,575	I didn't really gave it a thought before I got my first Gmt nor did I asked for any opinions in here either...it was the price that speaks the loudest to me and I got the 16700 for a what to me was a much much better deal than the 16710 (about $700 usd diff between the two) and mine is one of the last Master with the "SWISS" only dial. And I am with those gentlemen who appreciates the quick set date (having couple of watches in rotation, the quickset date is a very very welcoming feature) plus the third time zone feature on the 16710 is to calculate a third time zone temporarily before setting it back to the tracked second time zone. Both are great anyways...it's purely personal preference base on prices or features...

28 February 2016, 02:46 AM	#11
manonabike "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: London Posts: 11	Should have said that I'm not going for a WG model Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 06:39 AM	#15
manonabike "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: London Posts: 11	Thanks for all the input, and for correcting me where necessary. It's likely to be a weekend watch in rotation with a number of others including a LV, Daytona, Speedmaster, a couple of Tags. I don't flip my watches but expect them to hold their value as much as possible so not sure if either the GMT or GMT2 are any better or worse in that respect. I've been offered a 16700 but I think it's had a bezel swap from a black to Pepsi. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 06:49 AM	#16
arguetaoscar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,335	16700, Quickset makes a difference when rotating watches, as stated before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 07:11 AM	#17
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,499	When it comes to GMTs, there is only ONE for me..

28 February 2016, 07:16 AM	#18
Explorertwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Lowlands Watch: White 'n Black Posts: 641	My 'Swiss' only says hi! 16710 btw You will love either of them!

28 February 2016, 07:36 AM	#19
Aceldama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Central Cal Watch: Dads Omega Cal 601 Posts: 707	16700 for me. Quick set date and I can track as many times as I want using the bezel. Just give it a turn.

28 February 2016, 08:33 AM	#22
Timesurfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: 12,000+ Lakes! Watch: 16710 Daytona BLNR Posts: 840	16710 pepsi is my favorite without movimg toward ceramics... Its a fantastic watch! I use it with a brown cordovan strap..... 3185 with the jump hour for me since i use it for traveling....

28 February 2016, 09:16 PM	#24
deepcdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Wang Location: indonesia Watch: 1675 Gilt PCG Posts: 296	Prefer Choose 16710.. Mine says Hi.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 10:29 PM	#25
MLF "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Glasgow Posts: 55	I have a 16700 and love it ,just love at first sight and took it but I don't think you can go wrong with any of them

29 February 2016, 12:03 AM	#27
CRM114 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: HK & USA Watch: GMTs,1803, 16610LV Posts: 2,001	Can't go wrong with either!

29 February 2016, 01:23 AM	#28
DVC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 19	16700 for the quick set and the dial just looks perfect without the "II".

29 February 2016, 01:39 AM	#29
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	The 16700 is the last of the GMT Masters. Definitely one of my favorites.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

29 February 2016, 05:41 AM	#30
Explorertwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Lowlands Watch: White 'n Black Posts: 641	^ great pic Larry!!!

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