Sydney Rolex

[NY13]

Originally Posted by mr_gray

Nice One Archie!

Yeah I'm in Sydney and buying a rolex retail is not happening. no pm sports watches, nothing. i get in touch with davidsw and do it that way. people on this forum do nothing but complain about rolex availability and prices and i get it but goodness it is a bit grim down here in the antipodes. prices thru the greys are just terrible because of gst and of course their suppliers are same ones i access via internet by and large.

even back in the days of glory when aud was at parity and Hulk (for example) was less than retail price and instantly available, ADs in Sydney a bit pointless because they were so off the boil with prices you could get OS.

we need in australia a watch owners group that seeks to trade watches with cash balancing. watch liquidity in america for example seems much higher. this way you could move your collection about without heartbreak of trying to sell in such a small market. and of course this is motivated for me by the fact that prices greys offer for watches are around 20% below forum prices say (and around 30% below chrono24 prices).

are people doing this kind of trading in watch groups i wonder?

The thing with DavidSW is that they never have any BNIB Rolex. They're all used. How does one acquire a brand new Rolex from a grey dealer?

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by NY13

The thing with DavidSW is that they never have any BNIB Rolex. They're all used. How does one acquire a brand new Rolex from a grey dealer?

WTF are u on about? I bought heaps from Gray dealers on here all BNIB.

[NY13]

Originally Posted by peterpl

WTF are u on about? I bought heaps from Gray dealers on here all BNIB.

My bad, last time I checked they had mostly used so I looked elsewhere. Right now they have quite a few brand new ones.

[mr_gray]

i think i have purchased 3 bnib (out of 6) and i got to put my name on warranty card for those 3 too. so i think davidsw very often has new rolex.

everyone is different i suppose however i fail to see what you will incrementally achieve with davidsw watches for say excellent condition versus bnib. he clearly has access to a master polisher because all of his watches are clearly touched up (unless bnib or as stated) as they are perfect in both photos and on receipt. i last purchased a 116660 from davidsw and a ap 15400st (both rated excellent condition) and the ap was in stickers and without a single blemish on it (it had been worn though apparently) and the dssd has zero scratches all paper work all links all tags etc (but no stickers obviously as it was used).

honestly, if the price suits you with david, you won't be disappointed with the product i believe regardless of bnib or rated "excellent" etc.

[mr_gray]

also whilst on subject of sydney, i tried last week to buy an ap 15500(it is the new royal ok stainless steel watch) (i pretty much new i wasn't in much danger of getting one but figured i might get on some list) but instead i found out it is not a watch that will be sold in australia. i was referred to boutique in singapore / hong kong. i guess this also applies to 15202 and blue 15400 already.

so AP, a watch brand, has so much regard for australia that they don't mind missing out on our entire domestic market.

makes sense when i think about population but still pretty underwhelming.

[tbjerm]

Originally Posted by tna23

I was in Sydney this week and popped into the Rolex store in Martin Place. I counted 6 sales assistants plus the security guy / doorman. As for watches, all they had was a handful of ladies' datejusts and a couple of 36mm OPs. That's it - nothing else in stock. What is the point of having so many staff sit there idly and tell anyone coming in that they have nothing to sell? I think Rolex has lost the plot.

I'm thinking that what Rolex might be doing in the next ten years is that like Tesla, they'll showcase models on the floor but you can't actually walk out with them. Rather, you'll go into the shop to consult with the salespeople and be placed on a waiting list or to pick up the piece. This might be Rolex's alternative to the trend of online sales that brick and mortar stores are having to adopt or be put out of business... Rolex may, just may, allow the ADs to sell datejusts and the like online while not carrying any more surplus stock in their store and requiring in-store consultations/ordering for the harder pieces. Just a thought. Everything is going towards online sales, and we haven't yet seen what that's going to look like when it comes to fruition. Rolex needs to keep itself offline, keep the dealers open, but will not restock the cases with the scarce pieces. And the image of the brand looks very bad if all dealers just have half empty cases with the same, basic pieces... Things will have to change, the stores will have to look different with different stock, and I think Rolex would be better off if, like a Tesla showroom, they showcase their desirable pieces but you can't actually purchase anything in the store.

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by tna23

I was in Sydney this week and popped into the Rolex store in Martin Place. I counted 6 sales assistants plus the security guy / doorman. As for watches, all they had was a handful of ladies' datejusts and a couple of 36mm OPs. That's it - nothing else in stock. What is the point of having so many staff sit there idly and tell anyone coming in that they have nothing to sell? I think Rolex has lost the plot.

These people wouldn't be there if they weren't producing income for the owners. Either they are selling jewelry or other brand watches or taking care of paperwork in the back room for grey dealers. BTW, never been to Australia.

[Pete26]

I put in an EOI in the Brisbane AD for a Sub date, I said I would love to get it by November 2020 and the manager said they will try, but that's well under the average wait time. He said he had 3 EOI's that day.

Walked up the road to another AD and he just put the info on his phone. He gave no indication when, if, how or why.

At least I did have to put down a deposit.



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[Pete26]

Originally Posted by Pete26

I put in an EOI in the Brisbane AD for a Sub date, I said I would love to get it by November 2020 and the manager said they will try, but that's well under the average wait time. He said he had 3 EOI's that day.

Walked up the road to another AD and he just put the info on his phone. He gave no indication when, if, how or why.

At least I did have to put down a deposit.



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Sorry didn't have to put down deposit

[Like To Watch]

Originally Posted by Shamorai

You can get all the popular sports models in Sydney. Just head up the road to the Strand Arcade and give them up to triple the retail price, and the watch is yours.

They are dreaming wanted $18K for a used random serial SS Sub date.

[Like To Watch]

Originally Posted by tna23

I was in Sydney this week and popped into the Rolex store in Martin Place. I counted 6 sales assistants plus the security guy / doorman. As for watches, all they had was a handful of ladies' datejusts and a couple of 36mm OPs. That's it - nothing else in stock. What is the point of having so many staff sit there idly and tell anyone coming in that they have nothing to sell? I think Rolex has lost the plot.

That's the Rolex Boutique owned by the Kennedy's Family who also have the one at Crown in Melbourne. They are also at The Star Casino in Sydney and other places but they just aren't getting stock from Rolex.

[makrxx]

Coming to Sydney next week...guess I shouldn't expect much.

[R!$]

Originally Posted by tna23

I counted 6 sales assistants plus the security guy / doorman. As for watches, all they had was a handful of ladies' datejusts and a couple of 36mm OPs.

[makrxx]

Is it any possible to get a Datejust 41 blue dial in Sydney or Melbourne?

[Vvillie]

Originally Posted by makrxx

Is it any possible to get a Datejust 41 blue dial in Sydney or Melbourne?

I have been on the list for one at four ADs for over six months. My aim was to get one before July, but as the months keep rolling over I’m starting to think it’s not going to happen.

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by makrxx

Is it any possible to get a Datejust 41 blue dial in Sydney or Melbourne?

I think it is. Ask for Ken. He is a gentleman. He put me on a list for a watch when others turned me away with the usual Rolex mumbo jumbo

[Deano1937]

Originally Posted by Scoobs

That would be a great idea. I have a Daytona I purchased from Hour Glass I wish to move on, but the hassle of selling ( scammers etc ) means I have hung on to it

I would be a buyer for your Daytona at the right price is it the 116500ln


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[RolexInMelbourne]

Originally Posted by makrxx

Is it any possible to get a Datejust 41 blue dial in Sydney or Melbourne?

NO

[RolexInMelbourne]

AD here in Australia is hopeless. Grey dealer is greedy and dreaming. better off travelling to Singapore, Hong Kong and buy grey other there.

[InitialAndPitch]

Forget Kennedy's it's a museum full of mannequins.

I can recommend a distinguish man in there who may well be the watchmaker. He resized by Pepsi and couldn't have been more helpful.

Older guy, grey hair and wears a jacket vest. Service as it should be.

Beyond him, it's a wasteland.

Swiss Concept on Pitt Street - they try pretty hard. Don't have much of what you want but they know how to have a good quality grown up conversation even if they're breaking bad news - i.e.. no stock.

[Showcall]

Its been quite awhile since any decent sports models have appeared in any of the big 4 in Sydney, but I cannot complain as I got my SS Sky Dweller Blue from Martin Place after 15 month wait. I have serviced since 2008, 2 watches at The Australia Square service centre than 3 watches at Martin Place. I also bought my wife's TT Daytona at Martin Place. I am hardly their biggest customer but I struck up a great friendship with the staff. I wish I could buy more but I just cannot take my Sky Dweller off! I have a 1675 Root Beer I wish to sell but as discussed on previous posts you don't get much bang for your buck in Australia for Vintage watches.

[Showcall]

Originally Posted by Like To Watch

They are dreaming wanted $18K for a used random serial SS Sub date.

35k for SS Sky Dweller Blue Dial at the same shop.. She fell off her perch when she saw mine.. I wonder where they get their SS models from?

[Monte Cristo]

Originally Posted by Showcall

35k for SS Sky Dweller Blue Dial at the same shop.. She fell off her perch when she saw mine.. I wonder where they get their SS models from?

Blue SkyD ? You are one lucky man

[mr_gray]

yeah i have a few to sell now and one suddenly feels very far from everywhere else and especially the relative "smallness" of the australian watch market.

i'm hoping i have the energy/resilience to sell them on trf or similar rather than marching into a dealer and getting 20 percented. but paypal is a worry!

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by Monte Cristo

Blue SkyD ? You are one lucky man

Definitely. What a watch.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by Showcall

35k for SS Sky Dweller Blue Dial at the same shop.. She fell off her perch when she saw mine.. I wonder where they get their SS models from?

All the grays are sharks in AU. Try to sell one of your watches they will offer you nothing or well below market value. Then try to buy one and they will ask big big money from you. Want to trade? Even worse. LOL

Never and I mean NEVER buy from any gray dealer in Australia. Not worth the time to even call. Like I said before fly to HK or anywhere in asia really, give yourself a nice holiday and pick something up.

OR just buy online from a TS on here. ALOT of the grays in AU are getting stuff from HK/Europe and even from TS on here and just reselling with massive markup. Just go to the source yourself.

[Showcall]

Thank You

[mr_gray]

peterpl re: greys in australia i couldn't agree more with all of that but i think if they could buy used for more they would because god knows they need the stock. if i was an actor though and i needed to get v angry for a scene i would simply recall my last conversation with a sydney grey :-)

surely it is the gst that is killing us?

[Pete26]

Makes me regret putting my name down for a sub. The mark ups are ridiculous. Wearing my Oris 65 now that I got from an ad at nearly 50 percent off.




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[GMT Fan]

I tried to go into the Martin Place store last month. The security guy at the door said I was not allowed to go into the store. I tried to go back 5 days later. Same thing. He stopped me at the door. Told me there were no sales people available to escort me. There were no other customers in the store. There were multiple employees visible through the window. I do not look like a bum. I was wearing nice clothes. I showered that morning. I shaved. And I was wearing a new BRLO that was clearly visible. Very odd.