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alamla01 · 13 July 2017, 11:29 AM

I see a lot of people on TRF who say they prefer the submariner over the submariner date. Personally I feel like the date complication and cyclops are indicative of the rolex brand. (Just a personal feeling)

Would anyone tell me why so many seem to prefer the submariner?

Tantsu · 13 July 2017, 11:31 AM

Date for me!

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slide13 · 13 July 2017, 11:38 AM

The first Subs were non date. It's traditional, it's simple, and it has clean/classic dial symmetry. Some people want a Rolex so it looks inodicative of a Rolex while some people want a watch that harkens back to the origins of the model. Or they just want the best sports watch one can buy and they don't need a date.

Cyclops may be "indicative" but it's not my favorite look and I prefer my 114060.

alamla01 · 13 July 2017, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slide13

The first Subs were non date. It's traditional, it's simple, and it has clean/classic dial symmetry. Some people want a Rolex so it looks inodicative of a Rolex while some people want a watch that harkens back to the origins of the model. Or they just want the best sports watch one can buy and they don't need a date.

Cyclops may be "indicative" but it's not my favorite look and I prefer my 114060.

Thank you!

Anyone else?

FTX I · 13 July 2017, 11:44 AM

The Submariner had its debut at Basel Fair in 1953. Only twelve years later the Submariner Date was released. That alone is reason enough.

Etschell · 13 July 2017, 11:45 AM

The first sub didn't have a date and james bond always had a date, just not the type that is on the face of his sub.

henrylee · 13 July 2017, 11:51 AM

Date for me!

Tridor · 13 July 2017, 11:52 AM

Date!

One Ping Only · 13 July 2017, 12:10 PM

Someone I used to work with had a sign that read "Don't date yourself ". I have no idea what that was supposed to mean, but the Sub started with no date so it is traditional, the date is handy and inspires winder threads.

Sub King · 13 July 2017, 12:26 PM

I prefer the Submariner for a several reasons:
1. I think the clean and symmetrical dial is much more aesthetically pleasing. The cyclops is kind of ugly in my opinion; it's as though someone stuck an obnoxious wart onto a work of art.
2. I like the way it pays homage to the original Submariner.
3. James Bond's Submariner didn't have a date either, and I must say I'm a big Bond fan.
4. Did I mention the beautiful symmetry?

bcmind · 13 July 2017, 12:31 PM

Date for sure if its my only watch

madmax21 · 13 July 2017, 12:39 PM

Well why are you buying a Sub to dive or to tell the time? If your telling the time buy a watch....if your buying a driving watch by a No Date Sub

Marcus09 · 13 July 2017, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alamla01

Thank you!

Anyone else?

Me too

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DramaTurtle · 13 July 2017, 01:43 PM

I love both but find the date practical.

swils8610 · 13 July 2017, 01:43 PM

Date for me.

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Douglas9700 · 13 July 2017, 01:50 PM

I have always preferred the date model (I have two) however a close friend has a non-date he purchased 20 years ago and I have to admit it looks terrific too-both are winners!

Shamorai · 13 July 2017, 02:27 PM

The sub would be even more symmetrical without hands, but they have a useful function, just as the date does. I guess it comes down to where you want to draw the line between having decoration on your wrist, and having useful features. Cost is also an important consideration.

gtnator · 13 July 2017, 02:52 PM

I like both

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watchmework · 13 July 2017, 03:26 PM

No date, or the Submariner as it's known as for me...and it's my daily wear piece as well.

nikesupremedunk · 13 July 2017, 03:38 PM

I did a poll last time and I believe date was favored 55/45 so very close. If I were to get one I'd get the no date but do like the date on other colors.

UNCLE27 · 13 July 2017, 05:01 PM

Simple - symmetry.

Mirx · 13 July 2017, 05:01 PM

I need the date function so a Sub Date has always been my choice.

efti · 13 July 2017, 05:07 PM

I got both two weeks ago on a nice deal, I am keeping the date and sell out the new/not used No date.. Many people love the no date for the "clean" look of the dial, I love the cyclops and date function

Al1969 · 13 July 2017, 05:11 PM

Never really got interested in the ND Sub. I currently have two both with dates.

moonson · 13 July 2017, 06:10 PM

I believe if it’s an one and only watch for a person. The Sub Date is the way to go, perfect all rounder.

Someone adding a watch for the weekends maybe will prefer without the date feature.

Obviously this isn’t a hard and fast rule but it seems to ring true in a lot of cases.

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WEST HAM ROLEX · 13 July 2017, 06:19 PM

Prefer no date but love them both

Old Expat Beast · 13 July 2017, 06:24 PM

I prefer the original look.

Psmith · 13 July 2017, 06:40 PM

Date+Cyclops works for me

osamu · 13 July 2017, 07:40 PM

I think both look good, and would be a tough call between the two. I don't think the cyclops is particularly good looking, but I do appreciate the functionality of having a date. I think in my opinion, the date is a case of form following function, and does not contribute to the looks of the watch in anyway.

In my case, if I were to buy a Rolex diver it would probably be a 16600 or 116600

The Libertine · 13 July 2017, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alamla01

I see a lot of people on TRF who say they prefer the submariner over the submariner date. Personally I feel like the date complication and cyclops are indicative of the rolex brand. (Just a personal feeling)

Would anyone tell me why so many seem to prefer the submariner?

Submariner was my choice.

And thank you for using the proper description of Submariner and Submariner Date!

(No such model as the "no date".)

13 July 2017, 11:29 AM	#1
alamla01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA Posts: 61	Submariner vs. Submariner Date. I see a lot of people on TRF who say they prefer the submariner over the submariner date. Personally I feel like the date complication and cyclops are indicative of the rolex brand. (Just a personal feeling) Would anyone tell me why so many seem to prefer the submariner?

13 July 2017, 11:45 AM	#6
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	The first sub didn't have a date and james bond always had a date, just not the type that is on the face of his sub. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

13 July 2017, 11:51 AM	#7
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,214	Date for me! __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

13 July 2017, 12:10 PM	#9
One Ping Only "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Ken Location: WI Watch: several Posts: 1,639	Someone I used to work with had a sign that read "Don't date yourself ". I have no idea what that was supposed to mean, but the Sub started with no date so it is traditional, the date is handy and inspires winder threads. __________________ I have far too many expensive hobbies to even consider another one.

13 July 2017, 12:39 PM	#12
madmax21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Toronto Canada Watch: GMT Master ll Posts: 1,036	Well why are you buying a Sub to dive or to tell the time? If your telling the time buy a watch....if your buying a driving watch by a No Date Sub __________________ May the hands of time always treat us well...

13 July 2017, 11:31 AM	#2
Tantsu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: San Francisco Posts: 12	Date for me! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 July 2017, 11:38 AM	#3
slide13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Here Posts: 932	The first Subs were non date. It's traditional, it's simple, and it has clean/classic dial symmetry. Some people want a Rolex so it looks inodicative of a Rolex while some people want a watch that harkens back to the origins of the model. Or they just want the best sports watch one can buy and they don't need a date. Cyclops may be "indicative" but it's not my favorite look and I prefer my 114060.

13 July 2017, 11:44 AM	#5
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	The Submariner had its debut at Basel Fair in 1953. Only twelve years later the Submariner Date was released. That alone is reason enough.

13 July 2017, 11:52 AM	#8
Tridor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Ozone Watch: DD, DJ, SubC Date Posts: 1,666	Date!

13 July 2017, 12:26 PM	#10
Sub King "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 124060 Posts: 401	I prefer the Submariner for a several reasons: 1. I think the clean and symmetrical dial is much more aesthetically pleasing. The cyclops is kind of ugly in my opinion; it's as though someone stuck an obnoxious wart onto a work of art. 2. I like the way it pays homage to the original Submariner. 3. James Bond's Submariner didn't have a date either, and I must say I'm a big Bond fan. 4. Did I mention the beautiful symmetry?

13 July 2017, 12:31 PM	#11
bcmind "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: West Coast Watch: Rolex Posts: 186	Date for sure if its my only watch

13 July 2017, 01:43 PM	#15
swils8610 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 8,993	Date for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

13 July 2017, 01:50 PM	#16
Douglas9700 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Greg Location: SO CA Watch: Subs Posts: 307	I have always preferred the date model (I have two) however a close friend has a non-date he purchased 20 years ago and I have to admit it looks terrific too-both are winners!

13 July 2017, 02:27 PM	#17
Shamorai "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Sydney Watch: 16523, 116610LV Posts: 762	The sub would be even more symmetrical without hands, but they have a useful function, just as the date does. I guess it comes down to where you want to draw the line between having decoration on your wrist, and having useful features. Cost is also an important consideration.

13 July 2017, 02:52 PM	#18
gtnator 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: DSSD, SD43, Pepsi, Posts: 2,064	I like both Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 July 2017, 03:26 PM	#19
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	No date, or the Submariner as it's known as for me...and it's my daily wear piece as well.

13 July 2017, 03:38 PM	#20
nikesupremedunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: NYC Posts: 1,227	I did a poll last time and I believe date was favored 55/45 so very close. If I were to get one I'd get the no date but do like the date on other colors. __________________ \| 116234 DJ36 \| 116610LN SubC \| 116520 Daytona \| BlackBay 58 Blue \|

13 July 2017, 05:01 PM	#21
UNCLE27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: England Posts: 69	Simple - symmetry.

13 July 2017, 05:01 PM	#22
Mirx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Watch: RLX Posts: 437	I need the date function so a Sub Date has always been my choice.

13 July 2017, 05:07 PM	#23
efti Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: Muscat Watch: Batman,SubC & LMPO Posts: 164	I got both two weeks ago on a nice deal, I am keeping the date and sell out the new/not used No date.. Many people love the no date for the "clean" look of the dial, I love the cyclops and date function

13 July 2017, 05:11 PM	#24
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,602	Never really got interested in the ND Sub. I currently have two both with dates. __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

13 July 2017, 06:10 PM	#25
moonson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 55	I believe if it’s an one and only watch for a person. The Sub Date is the way to go, perfect all rounder. Someone adding a watch for the weekends maybe will prefer without the date feature. Obviously this isn’t a hard and fast rule but it seems to ring true in a lot of cases. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

13 July 2017, 06:19 PM	#26
WEST HAM ROLEX "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: London/Asia Watch: GMT LN/SD43/D Blue Posts: 872	Prefer no date but love them both

13 July 2017, 06:40 PM	#28
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Date+Cyclops works for me __________________

13 July 2017, 07:40 PM	#29
osamu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,322	I think both look good, and would be a tough call between the two. I don't think the cyclops is particularly good looking, but I do appreciate the functionality of having a date. I think in my opinion, the date is a case of form following function, and does not contribute to the looks of the watch in anyway. In my case, if I were to buy a Rolex diver it would probably be a 16600 or 116600

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