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Old 9 March 2018, 09:24 PM   #31
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I believe the Auction house was very skillful in marketing that watch. Many, many, VN veterans purchased the GMT or Sub at a PX (Post Exchange) during that time period. There are thousands out there. PX prices were in the $225-$275 price range depending on the year. I can think of at least 5 other guys I still know that have theirs.
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Old 9 March 2018, 09:40 PM   #32
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I believe the Auction house was very skillful in marketing that watch. Many, many, VN veterans purchased the GMT or Sub at a PX (Post Exchange) during that time period. There are thousands out there. PX prices were in the $225-$275 price range depending on the year. I can think of at least 5 other guys I still know that have theirs.
Agree. Honestly it's "cool" and all, but it's beat up, the original band is gone, he wasn't famous, so unless he was in my family tree I wouldn't pay over $4k US for it.
Now if he had notched verified kills in it...

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Old 10 March 2018, 05:14 AM   #33
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Agree. Honestly it's "cool" and all, but it's beat up, the original band is gone, he wasn't famous, so unless he was in my family tree I wouldn't pay over $4k US for it.
Now if he had notched verified kills in it...
Ex-Aussie SAS Vietnam vet......given their reputation in theatre, probably not enough space on the case to do that.

Cool watch, cool story, and a perfect example of when people saw such a Rolex as a tough tool watch rather than an bling investment piece of jewellery.
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Old 10 March 2018, 05:56 AM   #34
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It's had a rough life, but it's got tons of character. I respect that others may disagree, but I'd personally prefer it over a new 116610 ceramic.
Its a history book of its own
It would be a crime to polish
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Old 10 March 2018, 06:01 AM   #35
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Great story!
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Old 10 March 2018, 06:11 AM   #36
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Looks like he’s wearing an SAS beret in that photo too so I’d expect he and his watch saw a little action
Australian SF. Not quite the same as UKSF.
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Old 10 March 2018, 06:50 AM   #37
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Cool story, thank you for sharing.
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Old 10 March 2018, 07:11 AM   #38
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Old 10 March 2018, 07:34 AM   #39
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Full kit and great story...I think the watch was bargain! Case is certainly unique, but far from mundane!
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Old 10 March 2018, 07:35 AM   #40
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Wow.
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Old 10 March 2018, 07:57 AM   #41
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Great article! Thank you for posting the link.
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Old 11 March 2018, 03:20 AM   #42
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He found useful purpose for all that blank metal space. Although he’s no Bram Ramon, I’m thinking the detractors will never understand the “why”.
We understand why he did that. We also understand that aside from any sentimental value to the gentleman who did the “engraving” that there is zero value added to anyone else not related to him. Furthermore, a whole lot of value has been removed from the watch with the bery unpleasing engraving.
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Old 11 March 2018, 03:27 AM   #43
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That watch should be in the hands of the family, other then sentimental value, no interest. Cool story though.
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Old 11 March 2018, 07:50 AM   #44
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Old 11 March 2018, 09:11 AM   #45
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It’s not the first time and won’t be the last where a ‘war’ story has been used to bid up the value.
The engraving means nothing to anyone except the owner and the family and regards the provenance it gives the piece, doesn’t even mean to say the watch went to war, it’s also utterly ruined the case and to my eye what the watch is worth.
The fact someone was stupid enough to pay $10k for it comes down to clever marketing.
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Old 11 March 2018, 09:19 AM   #46
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Interesting how different the opinions are, but that's what makes it so interesting in a forum like this here.

Go on guys...
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Old 11 March 2018, 01:11 PM   #47
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Old 12 March 2018, 12:50 PM   #48
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Awesome story. Awesome watch. Awesome Rolex.
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Old 31 January 2019, 01:36 PM   #49
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Great comments on this thread, agree with most of them, highly rare pice of history and a fantastic conditioned watch on top!

The story of this watch goes on, stay tuned for more soon...
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Old 31 January 2019, 05:01 PM   #50
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Old 31 January 2019, 05:47 PM   #51
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Love the story behind it, you can almost imagine the moment he was just hacking away at the case, everyone has their own opinion you either like it or you dont xD , mine would be i love the whole story behind the watch, the intent behind the engraving, i mean back then who would care about wearing some bling bling, that watch has been through a heck of a lot and seen a lots of things

Just my two cents though, i like this :)
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Old 31 January 2019, 09:41 PM   #52
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I agree with both perspectives here. It’s cool to have the period engraving. It pulls you into the moment when this was a bad ass tool on the wrist of a bad ass soldier that terrible war.

At the same time, a a time piece, I think it’s trashed. It’s an interesting memento, but I’d think more valuables a military collector than a watch enthusiast.

What I can’t understand is why he would carve it in on both SIDES of the case. Okay, maybe the case back if you are worried about needing to ID it, but the sides also? I can’t see a rational reason for that...


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Old 1 February 2019, 12:49 AM   #53
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Now that's unpolished! Personally, I like the history and agree the seller would have done better at one of the larger auction houses.
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Old 1 February 2019, 04:30 AM   #54
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Agree, totaly wrong Auctionhouse. This watch at Phillips in one of the big auctions would be a star.

But, as also saied, its an unpolished case, watch tells it story, this is what I like and, on top with original papers.

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Old 1 February 2019, 06:58 AM   #55
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My GMT turns 50 years old this year...

It was my dads..


He wasn't SAS but he was 17 years in the Royal Corps of Signals, British Army..

He told me GMT's and Subs were very popular with servicemen..
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Old 2 February 2019, 04:26 AM   #56
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Australian SF. Not quite the same as UKSF.
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Old 2 February 2019, 05:10 AM   #57
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Are you ex Military, serving?
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Old 3 February 2019, 04:41 AM   #58
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when arrive the watch from Sala/Chri...you Sir???

read the appearance month ago in the german forum.
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Old 3 February 2019, 05:17 AM   #59
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It's had a rough life, but it's got tons of character. I respect that others may disagree, but I'd personally prefer it over a new 116610 ceramic.
me too !
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Old 3 February 2019, 06:18 AM   #60
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What is a thread about a watch like this without pics. Here you can see the quality of tue case and dial.

Enjoy, more are following
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