James Bond Quantum of Solace

[ryan_m]

i just found a picture from the new James Bond film Quantum of Solace. Where Daniel Craig has the watch on his wrist. Its hard to tell what exactly the model is.

[Lol-x]

Cool photo, it looks like a Planet Ocean with a black bezel, or then again it might be a Rolex

[Incurable]

Hard to tell, does this help...

[Lubrifar]

Definitely a 45mm PO.

[Letsgodiving]

Originally Posted by Lubrifar

Definitely a 45mm PO.

X2

[fear]

Anybody want to guess the pistol?

Looks 1911ish, but it looks off enough to be something else.

[Incurable]

The shape of the ejection port has me stumped... not Colt.

[Felly Jr.]

Originally Posted by Incurable

The shape of the ejection port has me stumped... not Colt.

Is it a Browning High Power?

[SUPERDOC]

He's been spotted in other photos wearing this.
It was the watch at the beginning of Casino Royale (worn on a rubber strap)
before he was given the official Bond watch (The SMP).

I've got it on the rubber strap...my favorite sports mode of all time.

[fear]

Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

Is it a Browning High Power?

Hey yeah....Browning HP perhaps? Some CZ variant? Yeah, I agree the ejection port's unusual....

[Trurolexer]

Absolutely a PO...Congrats Omega...

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by fear

Hey yeah....Browning HP perhaps? Some CZ variant? Yeah, I agree the ejection port's unusual....

Definitely looks like a S/A at least. My bet is on the HiPower, not enough taper to be a CZ-75

[evy411nia]

Originally Posted by fear

Anybody want to guess the pistol?

Looks 1911ish, but it looks off enough to be something else.

Looks like a single action...maybe a cz

[dkpw]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Cool photo, it looks like a Planet Ocean with a black bezel, or then again it might be a Rolex

It should be a Rolex.
It should be Sub.
Bond is NOT blond.

Sigh.....

[JJ Irani]

Sadly, not a Rolex......more likely a PO.

JJ

[el-piloto]

... I'm gonna be shot for this... but what the heck...?

I agree about the Sub and all...

But... still, Daniel Craig is a great Bond imho!!!
He brought back so many things that were missing from the newer Bonds*...
I for one am extremely keen on Quantum of Solace... Yep, oh yeah... can't
wait!!!

anyway...

B/R Petros

*: But then again... I'm one of those who also liked good mate George Lazenby in
OHMSS as well.

[Ken Cox]

In my mind, Bond wears Omega.
Where did I get that idea?
While in highschool (early 1960's) I read every Bond novel Ian Fleming wrote.
What did Ian Fleming put on Bond's wrist?

Wikipedia does not mention whether Fleming cited a specific watch, but has this to say about the movie watches:

"In the James Bond film adaptations, Bond has been associated with several well-known watches, usually outfitted with high-tech features not found on production models. The Rolex Submariner, one of the few recurring models, was worn by Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, and Timothy Dalton's versions of James Bond. Roger Moore also sported a number of digital watches by Pulsar and Seiko. Pierce Brosnan's and Daniel Craig's James Bonds were both devotees of the Omega Seamaster. The selection of James Bond's watch has been a matter of both style and finance, as product placement agreements with the watch manufacturers have frequently been arranged."

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I perceive the handgun in the photo as a 1911 with a flared and lowered ejection port; a very common modification which Colt and other manufacturers include as standard on a few 1911 models.

[el-piloto]

Originally Posted by Ken Cox

What did Ian Fleming put on Bond's wrist?

Hi Ken!

Indeed, Ian Fleming did put a Rolex on James Bond's wrist in his novels!

The "problem" for many collectors is though, that he never identified it in his
writings.

In my favorite (Bond-)book, "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", there is mention
of a "bracelet" in a scene where Bond uses his - otherwise unidentified - Rolex
to hit someone.
But other than this detail, I don't recall anything more specific, other than
Flemming often mentioning that it is a Rolex that Bond is wearing.

Later, during production of the first Bond film (Dr. No), Sean Connery wore
Cubby Broccoli's (one of the two producers) very own Sub... and thus the
legend of the 007-films' Sub was born...!

As I mentioned that "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" is my favorite of
Flemming's Bond novels, it also happens to be one of my absolute favorite
Bond films!!!
It is seldom mentioned, but during the 2nd half of the film (while acting
as "Sir Hilary Bray"), George Lazenby actually wears a Daytona and not
the usual film-Sub!!!
And he uses that Daytona quite extensively (the watch gets 2 close-ups)
while plotting an escape...

B/R

Petros

[TonyD]

You know us watch nerds need to get out more often....

All these replies and no one has asked to see pics of the new Bond Girl?! Who is it this time?

[dkpw]

Originally Posted by el-piloto

Hi Ken!
Indeed, Ian Fleming did put a Rolex on James Bond's wrist in his novels!

The "problem" for many collectors is though, that he never identified it in his
writings.

In my favorite (Bond-)book, "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", there is mention of a "bracelet" in a scene where Bond uses his - otherwise unidentified - Rolex to hit someone. But other than this detail, I don't recall anything more specific, other than Flemming often mentioning that it is a Rolex that Bond is wearing.

Later, during production of the first Bond film (Dr. No), Sean Connery wore
Cubby Broccoli's (one of the two producers) very own Sub... and thus the
legend of the 007-films' Sub was born...!

As I mentioned that "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" is my favorite of
Flemming's Bond novels, it also happens to be one of my absolute favorite Bond films!!! It is seldom mentioned, but during the 2nd half of the film (while acting as "Sir Hilary Bray"), George Lazenby actually wears a Daytona and not the usual film-Sub!!! And he uses that Daytona quite extensively (the watch gets 2 close-ups) while plotting an escape...B/R

Petros

Quite right Petros.

In addition, Ian Fleming, a keen diver, is shown to wear a Sub in many photographs. We all know that it was a marketing decision for the Bond franchise to switch to Omega.

Yes, Craig is an excellent actor, although I have only watched his Bond once, I thought he captured the idea of the character from the books well. The point remains, Bond was not blond.

Petros may I finally offer you the written version from Goldfinger of your tag line. It is if anything more desperate and evil;

"Mr Bond, all my life I have been in love. I have been in love with gold. I love its colour, its brilliance, its divine heaviness. I love the texture of gold, that soft sliminess that I have learnt to gauge so accurately by touch that I can estimate the fineness of a bar to within one carat. And I love the warm tang it exudes when I melt it down into a true golden syrup. But, above all, Mr Bond, I love the power that gold alone gives to its owner - the magic of controlling energy, extracting labour, fulfilling one's every wish and whim and, when need be, purchasing bodies, minds, even souls. Yes, Mr Bond, I have worked all my life for gold and, in return, gold has worked for me and for those enterprises that I have espoused."

Yours

David

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Sadly, not a Rolex......more likely a PO.

JJ

Rolex would call it a POS.

[el-piloto]

Originally Posted by lynntonyd

You know us watch nerds need to get out more often....

All these replies and no one has asked to see pics of the new Bond Girl?! Who is it this time?

Oops!!!
Yes, you are quite right you know...

Well then, les girls are Olga Kurylenko and Gemma Arterton.
There ya go:



According to IMDB, the gorgeous Stana Katic is rumored as well... Will have to go and check the MI6 archives for this one though...


Petros

[fear]

[/QUOTE]I perceive the handgun in the photo as a 1911 with a flared and lowered ejection port; a very common modification which Colt and other manufacturers include as standard on a few 1911 models.[/QUOTE]

Could be. Perhaps the photo's not clear enough and is distorting the ejection port.

Now wouldn't it be neat for Bond to have a 1911 shooting fat, slow .45s. Alas, that'd be counter his suave, hi-tech character.

[el-piloto]

Hello David!

Thank you for your multifaceted post!

Originally Posted by dkpw

Quite right Petros.

In addition, Ian Fleming, a keen diver, is shown to wear a Sub in many photographs. We all know that it was a marketing decision for the Bond franchise to switch to Omega.

Yes, spot-on indeed!
Ian Fleming has a wonderful and extremely interesting background, and his
involvement with the Naval Intelligence during WWII has left an amazing
legacy (both on its very - historical - own, and in his books)!
Fleming's involvement in (or actually his masterminding) the plan to use
Aleister Crowley in order to lure Rudolf Hess to England (and later possibly
even the plan that led to Hess' capture) is truly amazing!
(For that matter, the book "The Man Who Was M: The Life of Charles Henry
Maxwell Knight" by Anthony Masters is quite a read!!!)

The switch to Omega was indeed a marketing-related move... Much
like Seiko placed its watches on Roger Moore's wrist in some of his Bond-films
in the 70s...

(Funny enough, one "marketing-item" has had a far more solid placing within
the earliest films... the Persol sunglasses! Sean Connery is wearing 2 different
Persol models in his early 4 Bond films, and they are especially prominent in
1965's "Thunderball"! It may be though, that - as with Cubby Broccoli's own
Sub they used - it was simply the make of sunglasses Sean Connery used in
"real life", so they were simply ported over...)

Originally Posted by dkpw

Yes, Craig is an excellent actor, although I have only watched his Bond once, I thought he captured the idea of the character from the books well. The point remains, Bond was not blond.

Point taken!!! Bond was not blond, that is correct!
But if we take it literally, then... well how much of Ian Fleming's Bond made it
into the films...? Especially the later ones...
EON productions has taken considerable liberties, even in some of the best
scripts written by Richard Maibaum!!
So, what I mean to say is that within all these liberties, the fact that they
chose a blond actor has not been that important to me... Especially since
Daniel Craig (with the help of quite a good screenplay) was able to capture
the essence (or at least parts of it) of Ian Flemings famous character
extremely well - as you have also pointed out.

Originally Posted by dkpw

Petros may I finally offer you the written version from Goldfinger of your tag line. It is if anything more desperate and evil;

"Mr Bond, all my life I have been in love. I have been in love with gold. I love its colour, its brilliance, its divine heaviness. I love the texture of gold, that soft sliminess that I have learnt to gauge so accurately by touch that I can estimate the fineness of a bar to within one carat. And I love the warm tang it exudes when I melt it down into a true golden syrup. But, above all, Mr Bond, I love the power that gold alone gives to its owner - the magic of controlling energy, extracting labour, fulfilling one's every wish and whim and, when need be, purchasing bodies, minds, even souls. Yes, Mr Bond, I have worked all my life for gold and, in return, gold has worked for me and for those enterprises that I have espoused."

Yours

David

Thanks a lot, David!

It is indeed a very strong piece of monologue writing! Perfect example to
show the quality of Ian Fleming as a writer!
I just thought that the shorter film-version of it would fit better as a simple
signature...

----
Oh, and while we are at it... I'd also like to point out an extremely interesting
book about the genesis of the Silver Screen Bond. "The Battle For Bond" is a
book that raised quite some controversy when it was first published, and in
the end the book was pulled from circulation! It is bound to be re-released
soon (with some pages omitted), but nothing is certain yet.
Written by Robert Sellers it chronicles the collaboration between Ian Fleming
and a certain Mr. Kevin McClory, that eventually lead to the very first
screenplay ever written for (never filmed) Bond film (before EON's "Dr.No).
After the McClory & EON co-produced "Thunderball" the legal battles (with
McClory claiming that he had a major role in the creation of the film's Bond
character) raged for decades and still resonate today as show biz's most
interesting case!!!

Controversy or not, if you can get your hands on this book is worth it all the
way!! Really! If inclined, you can check out some in-depth information about
it here: 007 Magazine: Battle For Bond

Oh wow... I've been talking & talking again...

& with best regards

Petros

[delldeaton]

Originally Posted by Lubrifar

Definitely a 45mm PO.

What's your basis for saying this is "definitely" the 45.5mm version?

[mickeydainish]

I think it looks like a black bezel Omega PO..... Friend has one and I stare at it often!?!? :-) I like Daniel Craig as Bond... it took me about 5 mins into his first movie to convince me. He just makes a convincing bond is all I can say.

BTW Petros, thanx for a gr8 thread... I will be checking out that link about the Battle for Bond..

Mickey

[dkpw]

Originally Posted by el-piloto

Hello David!

Thank you for your multifaceted post!



Yes, spot-on indeed!
Ian Fleming has a wonderful and extremely interesting background, and his
involvement with the Naval Intelligence during WWII has left an amazing
legacy (both on its very - historical - own, and in his books)!
Fleming's involvement in (or actually his masterminding) the plan to use
Aleister Crowley in order to lure Rudolf Hess to England (and later possibly
even the plan that led to Hess' capture) is truly amazing!
(For that matter, the book "The Man Who Was M: The Life of Charles Henry
Maxwell Knight" by Anthony Masters is quite a read!!!)

The switch to Omega was indeed a marketing-related move... Much
like Seiko placed its watches on Roger Moore's wrist in some of his Bond-films
in the 70s...

(Funny enough, one "marketing-item" has had a far more solid placing within
the earliest films... the Persol sunglasses! Sean Connery is wearing 2 different
Persol models in his early 4 Bond films, and they are especially prominent in
1965's "Thunderball"! It may be though, that - as with Cubby Broccoli's own
Sub they used - it was simply the make of sunglasses Sean Connery used in
"real life", so they were simply ported over...)



Point taken!!! Bond was not blond, that is correct!
But if we take it literally, then... well how much of Ian Fleming's Bond made it
into the films...? Especially the later ones...
EON productions has taken considerable liberties, even in some of the best
scripts written by Richard Maibaum!!
So, what I mean to say is that within all these liberties, the fact that they
chose a blond actor has not been that important to me... Especially since
Daniel Craig (with the help of quite a good screenplay) was able to capture
the essence (or at least parts of it) of Ian Flemings famous character
extremely well - as you have also pointed out.



Thanks a lot, David!

It is indeed a very strong piece of monologue writing! Perfect example to
show the quality of Ian Fleming as a writer!
I just thought that the shorter film-version of it would fit better as a simple
signature...

----
Oh, and while we are at it... I'd also like to point out an extremely interesting
book about the genesis of the Silver Screen Bond. "The Battle For Bond" is a
book that raised quite some controversy when it was first published, and in
the end the book was pulled from circulation! It is bound to be re-released
soon (with some pages omitted), but nothing is certain yet.
Written by Robert Sellers it chronicles the collaboration between Ian Fleming
and a certain Mr. Kevin McClory, that eventually lead to the very first
screenplay ever written for (never filmed) Bond film (before EON's "Dr.No).
After the McClory & EON co-produced "Thunderball" the legal battles (with
McClory claiming that he had a major role in the creation of the film's Bond
character) raged for decades and still resonate today as show biz's most
interesting case!!!

Controversy or not, if you can get your hands on this book is worth it all the
way!! Really! If inclined, you can check out some in-depth information about
it here: 007 Magazine: Battle For Bond

Oh wow... I've been talking & talking again...

& with best regards

Petros

Thank you Petros, interesting stuff and I'll check that link out.

[Thani]

looks nothing like a rolex to me

pure omega

[MAXI DIAL]

Maybe its the new SeaDweller DeepSea

[rpryan55]

Can I just say that this has been the mot entertaining and informative thread? You fellows are amazing, and I just wanted to thank the guys that posted here for making my day. I love this stuff!